Andy Rooney on 60min

BWX

Andy Rooney said on "60 Minutes" a few weeks back:

I don't think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America. Try to have things like the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss White America; and see what happens..Jesse Jackson will be knocking down your door.

Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing makes you a killer. You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is trying to ban you from driving to the ball game.

I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for a reason, that is why there are no girls allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts! ARE YOU LISTENING MARTHA BURKE?

I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a phobia, it is an opinion.

I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird, or tick me off.

When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not racial profiling, it is the Law of Probability.

I believe that if you are selling me a milkshake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American citizen, you should have to speak English!

My father and grandfather didn't die in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours.

I think the police should have every right to shoot your sorry ass if you threaten them after they tell you to stop. If you can't understand the word "freeze" or "stop" in English, see the above lines.

I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you are qualified for any special loan programs, government sponsored bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can open a hotel, coffee shop, trinket store, or any other business.

We did not go to the aid of certain foreign countries and risk our lives in wars to defend their freedoms, so that decades later they could come over here and tell us our constitution is a living document; and open to their interpretations.

I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor.

I know pro wrestling is fake, but so are movies and television. That doesn't stop you from watching them.

I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the next operating system that's better, and put your name on the building.

It doesn't take a whole village to raise a child right, but it does take a parent to stand up to the kid; and smack their little behinds when necessary, and say "NO!"

I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please don't pretend they are a political statement. And, please, stay home until that new lip ring heals. I don't want to look at your ugly infected mouth as you serve me French fries!

I am sick of "Political Correctness." I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa; so how can they be "African-Americans"? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else

And if you don't like my point of view, tough...


I have to agree, (except the Pro Wrestling part)..

Nacht

Great quotes.

Rasta Monsta

Hilarious.



Nacht & B-Dub go camping. . .






rasta

Asmoday

I must say that even though I'm not American, that it was some true words of wisdom that probably applies in most western countries, and I couldn't agree more with it.

Pompey

I also agree.

I dont entirely agree with this one:

Quote:

I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird, or tick me off.

Everyone has the right to their own opinions and to express thier opinions but they dont have the right to impose those opinions on anyone else.

Its a step away from saying "Its my democratic right to oppress others and impose my beliefs on them if I so choose"

BWX

Maybe some of that stuff was said by George Carlin if it wasn't Rooney??
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Still there definitely is some wisdom there. People need to quit being so damn politically correct all the time and start using common sense.


EDIT- btw snopes sucks, they make up as much stuff as the things they are reporting o

BWX

I think possibly you have misunderstood that one..

I took it as, I don't have to agree with everything or everyone, I can disagree all I want and should not be labeled as having a "phobia" or whatever.

Basically we are not all clones and we can all make up our own minds about things- no one should tell us how to think. Being intolerant of something -whether you are right or wrong- shouldn't be illegal. It is not about imposing beliefs or oppression.

Pompey

What does the right to "not tolerate" mean?
Does it mean you are allowed to abuse someone because they are different?

You dont have to like/agree with something to tolerate it.
For example, I dont believe in god (and have a strong dislike of religion) but I accept the fact that others have the right to their opinions and the right to worship (or not worship) how they choose. Thats tolerance.

BWX

No, duh..

mkk

Mr Rooney, allow me to retort. Please bear in mind that just as with your own writing not everything is to be taken 100% seriously.

Quite right. If you are part of a mintority but not actually oppressed in any way then you are naturally not a victim. I'm glad we both understand basic logics.

Right again. However you forget to mention that some of those has a very good reason for their existence like the college fund. There's also nothing inherently wrong with a private fund being specialised, and most are.

Now I don't really think that a Miss-anything is necessary, but in the case of Miss Black America you do of course know that a reason why it started was because there were already a Miss White America contest. It wasn't officially going by that name, but you know it was the right name for it. And Jesse Jackson seems to have had a slump in his career since the 90's so perhaps there is room for holding a Miss Whitey America, sponsored by the NRA and held in Utah. Are you in good enough health to host it?

You are very clever to score points making inrefutable arguments in short sentences. Let me try; baseball bats are not brought along on a killing spree. They don't actidentally go off killing a family member either. I happen to have a bat myself that I quite enjoy even though I don't see what's enjoyable about baseball itself. I also have a fair technical interest in firearms and know how to handle some variants, but I still wouldn't want one in my home.

For some reason mixed scout cores have been working well for a long time here in Scandinavia. What if everyone were made to wear skorts, would that work for you?

I'm not sure something that's not a phobia has to be an opinion, but I'll be nice and give you another point. One may hovever both have an opinon and be phobic, like of your feeling comes from some diffuse sense of fear of or anger towards homosexuals. I used to feel at least some of those unpleasant feelings myself, possibly coming from how the society around me reacted to and joked about homosexuals while I was growing up. I early on realised that it was a purely negative and frankly illogic feeling and decided to try to better myself. How about you?

To "NOT be tolerant" seems like a squirmy rewrite of intolerant. If you feel that you have the right to be intolerant to anyone that is different then you have a personal problem. Unless perhaps your doctor knows and you are already being treated for some form of senility, then you should try some counseling. It must be tough to get ticked off every time you see some wierd looking guy on the street.

At first I thought it was another one of your quick wins, but then I realised that you were'nt doing it with just short sentences anymore. And you're wrong, because those numbers don't make it a fact either way.

I can understand about the hotel room because one may need directions. But how much do you really talk to the person at a news stand? Having a hard time to decide what paper or brand of cigarettes to buy on a perticular day? How do you feel about vending machines?
American citizenship is a bit special because you have that nice law that says that anyone born on american soil have the right to claim citizenship. Would you refute a citizenship from a child that is having a hard time learning the language? Had you thought this one through or did you just shoot off your hip getting worked up remembering all the times some wierd looking guy ticked you off by not being able to direct you to the nearest hotel bathroom in time?

I'm afraid you're getting delirious. Who are you even thinking about here?

Eh, they do. Sit down for a bit and catch your breath.

Write your congressman.

I really hope you're not talking about France, you know the good old guys who made it possible for you to throw out the english. But you're probably not and I'm likely just confounded as I though you would be having enough to worry about how your own countrymen are reworking or overruling the constitution as we speak.


Sorry I've got to end there. I was meaning to comment on all of it but it was too big a bite for me right now.

Rasta Monsta

He didn't write this piece, and called it "viciously racist," see link above.

rasta

BWX

I don't see how it's racist.. I think it is very anti-racist.. whoever said it.
It's just common sense mostly (incidentally common sense is anti-politically correct most of the time) .

mkk

Good. Though a lot of people think like that and parts of it is similar to what he's been saying on the show, some of it felt out of place. I guess that's a needed ingredient of a plausible sham, and as usual these threads that start with a citation is mostly about what the originator wants to say with others words.

Rasta Monsta

Cripes, man, this is some pretty right wing stuff. . .



rasta

Nacht

Right wing != racist.

I resent being made fun of Rasta. I dont care whether he said them or not. In my opinion most of them are good quotes.

Rasta Monsta

OK, and in my opinion, that makes you a right wing nut job!

And if you don't like being called out on your overtly fascist beliefs, take a look at the forum you are posting in. . .Political and Religious DEBATE!



rasta

P.S. BTW, you don't see B-Dub whining about anything I said, do you?

temeteus82

Here local tv channel four shows 60 minutes and the best part is andy's part...
I've like the part when he had that smart car in NY if any one knows were to get the clip PM me

mkk

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in704601.shtml

SFOSOK

The right to not tolerate someone is a right wether you like it or. If some lady serves me my food with with a infected lip I can demand my money back and then leave. Same if some poor bastard tries to sell me some chocolate then I don't have to sit there and listen to him I can just walk past him. Hell if gay guys can be boosted to stardom in hollywood then why can't I simply not tolerate people and ignore them?

SFOSOK

Maybe if the leaders of the NAACP were not so racist, and politcal leaders like Jesse Jackson (bigges tmoron ever) simply vanished then the US could actually be free instead of trying to make up for slavery that is no ones fault anymore.

I believe a white male should be able to get the same amopunt of college loans as a black female.

I believe that a job should not be able to hire someone over someone else if spanish is their first language.

I believe the black man should shut the f*ck up already because I never put him in chains and I owe him about as much as he owes me.

I believe Rev. Jesse Jackson is the worst role model on the entire planet, worse than Sadam or Osama...

I believe for every institute to help "black" Americans succeed there should be either one for each race, none, or one for every race and gender.

I believe no one should have to be politically correct because of something that happen over a 100 years ago.

I believe that institutions that only accept a certain race or gender are racist and sexist.



Yay for Martin Luther King. That was a truelly great man, not a greedy polititian.
If you still believe black people have less power than white people you are a f*cking moron.

Am I racist? far from it. The NAACP is racist and worthless now.







Only in America could a white man who believes in god and wears a cross to school have less rights than everyone else.

BWX