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Dec 26, 2005, 05:35 PM
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Dinosaurs... Fact or Fiction?
As the title says, do you actually believe that Dinosaurs are a hoax and that they never existed or are you on the contrary and believe in em? 
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Dec 26, 2005, 08:06 PM
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Dinosaurs were real, the moon landing was fake.
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Dec 26, 2005, 09:21 PM
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People keep on saying that the moon landing is fake. Did the US Government publicly announce that?
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Dec 26, 2005, 09:33 PM
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Both dinosaurs and the moon landing are real. You're a fool if you think otherwise.
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Dec 26, 2005, 09:37 PM
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I think Dinosaurs and the moon landing are real (conspiracy theorists are funny). The thing that I'm not so sure about the Dinosaurs is A. How they died, but noone is sure about that and B. What they actually looked like, our perception of Dinosaurs right now, in my opinion, is probably not how they looked.
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Dec 26, 2005, 10:08 PM
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i think its pretty close to how they looked. if memory serves me correctly, they found a couple of frozen dino's with skin and muscle still intact and they looked pretty close to how we thought.
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Dec 26, 2005, 11:13 PM
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the title of this thread sure gave me a laugh..
the fossilized remains of creatures that existed for over 2.1 billiion years ago have been found in scientifically dated rock the world over. Tektonic movement of continental and ocean crustal plates has been verified and observed, therefore we must conclude that many fossils have been consumed or buried or destroyed during metamorphism or the plastic and crystaline reshaping of minerals and sediments.
Whether anyone believes or not, the proof is here before us all to examine.
The premise that we are the direct descendents of creatures that we find in the fossil record is rather hard to accept from my point of view.
Did celetial collisions create the great organic primordial goo that we all arose from?
Did birds descend from dinosaurs?
Are we a mixture of several distinct genetically different versions of homo erectus, sapians and neanderthalis? Was there a true Cro-Magnan man.
We find when we reverse engineer human DNA we find protien markers that make us have much in common with non-humans.
Is it possible that we are all descended from creatures that evolved due to enviornmental stresses and dietary changes, and that we differ little from creatures of the anchient seas?
Was there in fact a great Diaspora of all life that evolved or changed in the seas and the land and even the skies.
Are we so self centered and narrow minded not to accept that we will not find our true ancestors and all the anchient beasts that walked, swam or flew over our earth as spun around and around our unique sun.
I believe that change continues, that the hand of God has a grasp of all that will be in the future and perhaps we will not tarry on this earth for long, but reach for the stars...
We human beings, usurpers and slayers, builders and seekers, we shall take our God and our faith to the stars one day..
so do I believe that dinosaurs could have existed...
oh yes...
as surely as there the chance that we will colonize new worlds, and paint the barren planets with our patina of civlizations and spread our seed as far as we can...
as perhaps the great beasts of anchient times succumbed and changed so shall we...
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Dec 26, 2005, 11:55 PM
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Damn Jeff,
I was gonna say they were a lie concocted by the Bush Administration.
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Dec 27, 2005, 12:10 AM
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Hmm...should I trust hard archeological evidence or what some book says?
Hmmmmm
I think ill go with the hard evidence!
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Dec 27, 2005, 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by nitrousoxide52
I think Dinosaurs and the moon landing are real (conspiracy theorists are funny).
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ditto 
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Dec 27, 2005, 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Falstaff
We find when we reverse engineer human DNA we find protien markers that make us have much in common with non-humans.
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I've read that our DNA is actually 90% identical to a fruit-fly and 50% identical to a banana  offtopic, but a nice little factoid.
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Dec 27, 2005, 02:13 AM
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Maybe this should be a poll on how old they are. I do not think Dino's are as old as we make them out to be.
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Dec 27, 2005, 02:29 AM
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No this poll is about whether you believe in em or not... And dude, if you look at rock layers (all the sediments and all) it gives you a pretty easy way of knowing how old they are...
Why, how old do you think they are?
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Dec 27, 2005, 05:25 AM
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Why would anyone make up dinos?!
Well, yeah, I guess it's pretty funny to make something up and then make all kids in the world learn about it! 
But no, I think they're real.
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Dec 27, 2005, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Necrosis
Damn Jeff,
I was gonna say they were a lie concocted by the Bush Administration.
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I had to say something... 
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Dec 27, 2005, 11:30 AM
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Is this thread for real?...
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Dec 27, 2005, 12:00 PM
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 Totally! Why? You see... 1 guy DOES think dinos aren't real  (no it's not me...)
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Dec 27, 2005, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by nitrousoxide52
I've read that our DNA is actually 90% identical to a fruit-fly and 50% identical to a banana  offtopic, but a nice little factoid.
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but most of our DNA is "junk" DNA, and doesn't actually do anything, mostly remainders from previous evolution steps
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Dec 27, 2005, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dj_stick
but most of our DNA is "junk" DNA, and doesn't actually do anything, mostly remainders from previous evolution steps
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So... we evolved from bananas? 
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Dec 27, 2005, 02:29 PM
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I made a practice as a younger man, to spread my DNA all over the world...
lots of little Drew Carey's running about now I wager... 
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Dec 27, 2005, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by YAYitsAndrew
Both dinosaurs and the moon landing are real. You're a fool if you think otherwise.
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Oh and I suppose you think tupac really is dead or that aliens dont visit earth
lol  Im definately all for good conspiracys. http://www.moonmovie.com/moonmovie/
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Dec 27, 2005, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Randomletters
Oh and I suppose you think tupac really is dead or that aliens dont visit earth
lol  Im definately all for good conspiracys.
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You also believe area-51 is an alien experimentation site? Not just an experimental aircraft testing field?
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Dec 27, 2005, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by nitrousoxide52
You also believe area-51 is an alien experimentation site? Not just an experimental aircraft testing field?
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I believe that it doesnt matter what i believe, but maybe it is/was an alien experimentation site.
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Dec 27, 2005, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Randomletters
I believe that it doesnt matter what i believe, but maybe it is/was an alien experimentation site.
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I read somewhere (Daniel Jeffries America's Back Porch) that they actually use area 51 to incinerate the dangerous chemical waste and by products of manufacturing special aircraft. Dont know about the validity of this, but the arguement was well structured and he had interviews with ex area 51 personnel. The alien thing is a perfect, if unintentional, cover up as it maintains the need for secracy.
As for Dinosaurs, well, all the evidence suggests...... real.
The moon? All the evidence suggests..... real.
What about the Illuminati?
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Dec 27, 2005, 11:55 PM
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Hahahaha...the moon landing was real.
I have been through many websites and conspiracy theorist papers and movies...and they all have very good and plausible evidence. But the problem is the number of people involved in the space program at that time. Given human nature, it would be absolutely impossible to keep that under wraps for the 35+ year span since it happened.
Area 51 was a test grounds for experimental aircraft...It's really called the Groom Lake AFB as far as I know. The probably did burn/bury toxic chemicals there, but thats sort of old news, as "Area 51" was declassified quite a while ago.
We have encountered no aliens.
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