Pedophile Priests - Mature Content

digerati · Sep 24, 2005, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandok

Religion is a curse. Simple. No religion, 90% of this world's problems are gone.

I doubt it. No religion and 100% of religious problems are gone. That doesn't mean other problems wouldn't replace them.

SFOSOK · Sep 24, 2005, 05:25 AM

90% of the world's set standard for morals goes down the drain. Social decay will occur as we block out morality without the constant reminder of some decent religion. It would turn to Chaos, but then someone with a lot of power will take control of the weak minded. Religion is there for a reason, some may ignore it and that is fine. What you see it as is how it is to you till you change your perspective, then it may be something else entirely.

Most countries have a religion as a certain moral standard and derive many of their laws from text from the bible (USA for example). Think if we had no religion, none from the start of time till now. Not so many wars maybe, no priest pedophiles (though assured they would be doin the exact same thing if not a priest), not a bunch of annoying converters (I call them that anyway). Then think of the bad effects. Nothing to live for, nothing to die for, no reason for anything, complete moral decay, no structure, no side (good or evil to choose from), no help when life kicks your ass, and I think that without religion there would be no compasion, hate, love, anything. If you want to be a mindless drone go right on ahead, I'm sure some nice science lab could use the part of the brain they cut out. I think religion is exactly what mankind needs (if you need something to hate or love) without it we would be lost and emotion would probably cease. Your allowed to hate it, that is the luxery you have, you can bash it, and you can do what ever you want really. A bunch of things piss you off about religion? So what? I get pissed off at things like some get pissed off at religion. We all need something to be mad at right? With no religion though you take the #1 source of compasion, love, hate, death, help, and pretty much anything you can think of. My point through all of that is, we would not be better without religion, I would rather die defending something I believe in then become part of the mindless masses.

SexPistoL · Sep 24, 2005, 03:03 PM

Dodgy subject,,,,,,,,,Ive seen too much hassle, over "Religion"

Necrosis · Sep 24, 2005, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandok

Religion is a curse. Simple. No religion, 90% of this world's problems are gone.

More like...remove 10% of the people, and 99% of the world's problems are gone.

SFOSOK · Sep 24, 2005, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Necrosis

More like...remove 10% of the people, and 99% of the world's problems are gone.

Heh. Now we just need a country large enough to hold 10% of the people woman SUV drivers included. I guess we could send em all to australia.

mike2h · Sep 24, 2005, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Necrosis

More like...remove 10% of the people, and 99% of the world's problems are gone.

you got that right! i would bet 5% or less would probably do it.

SexPistoL · Sep 24, 2005, 04:34 PM

That's what we did years ago...................But it has turned out to be a great Country now

mike2h · Sep 24, 2005, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SexPistoL

That's what we did years ago...................But it has turned out to be a great Country now

i lived their for 13 yrs, one of my brothers & both my sisters were born there. we are all saving up to take an extended vacation & visit all the places we lived in. i have nothing but good memories of my time down under.

SexPistoL · Sep 24, 2005, 06:19 PM

Good on ya, I have loads of relatives their

violat3 · Sep 26, 2005, 11:12 AM

what do you expect when the former pope (john paul) harboured peadophiles within the walls of the vatican city and claimed he was still a good man

nae wonder the wee frees label the pope the antichrist the current ane is a former nazis trying to talk down his shady involvement during the war

the Catholics are a minority in Scotland yet the vast majority of kiddy fiddlin is done by Catholic ministers or look at Celtic fc( a catholic football club) and their boys club, in short the catholics need their faith to be cleansed of their shady leaders and its peadophile ring

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Originally Posted by [zi0n]aXe

These are the kinds of things that Archdiocese priests did to children:

• A girl, 11 years old, was raped by her priest and became pregnant. The Father took her in for an abortion.

• A 5th-grader was molested by her priest inside the confessional booth.

• A teenage girl was groped by her priest while she lay immobilized in traction in a hospital bed. The priest stopped only when the girl was able to ring for a nurse.

• A boy was repeatedly molested in his own school auditorium, where his priest/teacher bent the boy over and rubbed his genitals against the boy until the priest ejaculated.

• A priest, no longer satisfied with mere pederasty, regularly began forcing sex on two boys at once in his bed.

• A boy woke up intoxicated in a priest’s bed to find the Father sucking on his penis while three other priests watched and masturbated themselves.

• A priest offered money to boys in exchange for sadomasochism – directing them to place him in bondage, to “break” him, to make him their “slave,” and to defecate so that he could lick excrement from them.

• A 12-year-old, who was raped and sodomized by his priest, tried to commit suicide, and remains institutionalized in a mental hospital as an adult.

• A priest told a 12-year-old boy that his mother knew of and had agreed to the priest’s repeated rape of her son.

• A boy who told his father about the abuse his younger brother was suffering was beaten to the point of unconsciousness. “Priests don’t do that,” said the father as he punished his son for what he thought was a vicious lie against the clergy.

The Grand Jury Report

Confession Anyone?

AttroPheed · Oct 13, 2005, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SFOSOK

Then think of the bad effects. Nothing to live for, nothing to die for, no reason for anything, complete moral decay, no structure, no side (good or evil to choose from), no help when life kicks your ass, and I think that without religion there would be no compasion, hate, love, anything.

Odd then that atheists commit fewer sins than their theist counterparts. With no morals to guide them, atheists should at the very least be able to keep up or even surpass other "believer" segments of the population as far as crime is concerned wouldn't you think? Nice try tho.

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Originally Posted by SFOSOK

If you want to be a mindless drone go right on ahead, I'm sure some nice science lab could use the part of the brain they cut out.

So you didn't get where you are by adopting a steady regimen of indoctrinating fallacy and blind faith in the specious?

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Originally Posted by SFOSOK

I think religion is exactly what mankind needs (if you need something to hate or love) without it we would be lost and emotion would probably cease.

Suggesting that a theist "feels" more than an atheist is a pretty weak stab at an argument especially in light of the thread title. In fact, knowing how wide spread and documented these abuse cases were and that they took place over such a lasting period of time, I'd say it's complete and utter bullshit.

SFOSOK · Oct 14, 2005, 01:12 AM

Very good at twisting my words.

I give you F

but an A+ for effort

Lakevren · Oct 14, 2005, 03:23 AM

So... do we hear protestant priests raping little kids?

No... of course not (at least not in bold print). Why? Cause some of the protestant sects allow a priest to have a damn wife.

Partizan · Oct 14, 2005, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Lakevren

So... do we hear protestant priests raping little kids?

No... of course not (at least not in bold print). Why? Cause some of the protestant sects allow a priest to have a damn wife.

Agree. Good point.

The problem of catholic church is not allowing priests to have spouses. And why is that? So there are no successors when the priest dies and the church gets everything. It's all about money...

Regards, Partizan

Prince_Link · Oct 14, 2005, 05:48 AM

the fact is, these sick people take jobs in powerful and trusted positions, so they can have these opportunities.. it just goes to show that the church doesn't have a good enough screening system for those they count as members of the faith

i myself am an atheist, and will stay as such, becoz all i've found in religion is hate and war, and violence, and blaming everybody else for your own mis doings,.. and people praying to some higher being for something to happen that sed person should get out and do themselves.

people are so deluded that faith is the one true way of life, they need to get out and experience the world, outside of the protection of the good book.

Prince_Link · Oct 14, 2005, 05:57 AM

also, who are you to say that atheists don't have morals

i don't kill people not becoz its a sin, but becoz the thought of it makes me sick and becoz people deserve a life

i don't rape women coz rapists make me sick, and women have the right to consentual relations

i don't molest small children becoz god forbids how that can affect them and becoz its wrong, and becoz im not a sick freak, and becoz i have a pretty 17 yr old gf (16 is legal in oz,my gf is 17. and im 18btw) whom i can enjoy such interactions with, as long as she is in the same mood,

i don't assault people, becoz i know how much it hurts

what i will condone, is someone taking out a terrorist who is using thier religion as an excuse to harm, maim, attack and kill innocent people.
whether it be via weapon or hand to hand
these people don't deserve the life and air this earth allows them, and the way such members of faith are acting.. they'll be next on my list of condonings...

Sandok · Oct 14, 2005, 06:11 AM

Oh come on... All of the world's wars are because of religion. And these priests (catholics course) make even more problems. Removing the fanatics is impossible since everyone "should" be a fanatic according to your bible or any other fantasy book you read.

The fact is simple. Religion CONSTRAINTS you. It's forces you to STOP doing things. No wife for example and no sex for catholics priests. They can't fight what they are and that's a living human being. We aren't going to be thrown into cages and live nice. We have instincts and the reason religion exists is to put order in the world. To fight instict. Well apparently, even priests (your most noble of men) need to fight their instincts not with religion but with rape.

Way to go.

Prince_Link · Oct 14, 2005, 06:23 AM

i was gunna say that.. but didn't wanna start a flamewar...

Sandok · Oct 14, 2005, 06:37 AM

Oh well anyways I've learnt that people never change. WHo cares? Let the rape go on

Prince_Link · Oct 14, 2005, 07:01 AM

i care.. and i won't let it go on.. even if i have to start an anti rape malitia group

violat3 · Oct 15, 2005, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandok

Oh come on... All of the world's wars are because of religion. And these priests (catholics course) make even more problems. Removing the fanatics is impossible since everyone "should" be a fanatic according to your bible or any other fantasy book you read.

The fact is simple. Religion CONSTRAINTS you. It's forces you to STOP doing things. No wife for example and no sex for catholics priests. They can't fight what they are and that's a living human being. We aren't going to be thrown into cages and live nice. We have instincts and the reason religion exists is to put order in the world. To fight instict. Well apparently, even priests (your most noble of men) need to fight their instincts not with religion but with rape.

Way to go.

your way to sensible for this board of old fuddy duddies

Sandok · Oct 15, 2005, 03:54 PM

Na... Death and violence are part of life so whether you priests rape or not, I'd just say tough luck for those involved. Prince seems more sensble

AttroPheed · Oct 22, 2005, 01:50 PM

Well it appears all the zealots have already run away from this thread covering their ears. But a recent study in the Journal of Religion and Society found that religion actually does do more harm than good.

Here's the main article and an abstract (for the semi-literates that plague the board).

mike2h · Oct 22, 2005, 02:11 PM

that or they got tired of tring to discuss a very emotional subject with somebody who seems to be incapable of looking past his own viewpoint.

AttroPheed · Oct 22, 2005, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mike2h

that or they got tired of tring to discuss a very emotional subject with somebody who seems to be incapable of looking past his own viewpoint.

It's tough to see things thru the eyes of someone willing to justify child rape based on religious affiliation. Gabriel_Etranil's "Now show the same/similar statistics from every other country in the world from the past 52 years." as if to argue that "catholics can't possibly be raping more kids than the rest of the religions so don't worry about it" was probably my favorite in that it was so disgusting it didn't even warrant a response.

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