Jesus Loves You

CDsDontBurn · Aug 23, 2005, 09:43 PM

who is jesus? who is god? I have never found the answer to both questions, despite how many times i have been told the "answer".

Geminiwave · Aug 23, 2005, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

who is jesus?

I dunno...wasnt he some dude back in the day?

CDsDontBurn · Aug 23, 2005, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Geminiwave

I dunno...wasnt he some dude back in the day?

w0w!!!! copy and paste more from our AIM convo

. lol

Geminiwave · Aug 23, 2005, 09:59 PM

AttroPheed · Aug 24, 2005, 04:44 AM

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The fact is that the theory that humans evolved from some other lower life from is a big fat crock. You choose to believe that because you cannot grasp the idea of a higher power.. I ask for evidence to support your theory, and you yell me I don't understand science.

Everyone in the thread in support of evolution has been giving you evidence since day one. You've refused to look at it. You've also refused to research it on your own from an unbiased source. The link to the creationism page in your post being a case in point.

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-maybe you should go back to flaming and lying.. like your earlier posts. You are much better at that.
http://www.driverheaven.net/showpost...&postcount=211

That link proves what? Even taken out of context none of those comments prove anyone is lying and\or flaming. It would almost seem you're seeing evidence for whatever it is you want to believe.

AttroPheed · Aug 24, 2005, 05:40 AM

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Think about it for a while.

No need to be cryptic. I pay you the respect of stating a point and allowing a retort. Please, reciprocate.

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...If evolution is true you cannot believe that man is at all the cause of, the main contributor, or anything but a minor contributor to global warming.

Syllogistic reasoning at it's finest.

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I hate that they even teach this in schools as fact and even promote it constantly as fact.

If you're talking about global warming as a result of human arrogance, yeah, it's a little disgusting. If you're talking about evolution, at least they're teaching something that there is hard, documented evidence of. It'd be nice if they could approach environmentalism with the same tact but one should never underestimate the power of loud stupid people in large groups.

BWX · Aug 24, 2005, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AttroPheed

That link proves what? Even taken out of context none of those comments prove anyone is lying and\or flaming. It would almost seem you're seeing evidence for whatever it is you want to believe.

http://www.driverheaven.net/showpost...&postcount=213

You really do have a bad memory.

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Everyone in the thread in support of evolution has been giving you evidence since day one. You've refused to look at it. You've also refused to research it on your own from an unbiased source.

Then give a link to any post that has evidence that proves that humans evolved from a lower life form.. It isn't that I didn't look and or see it- the fact is it does not exist.

The link I gave actually has scientific evidence that your statement earlier is a crock too... and how UN-scientific the human evolution theory actually is.

I ask you for evidence and your only response has been "you don't know how science works"... What a cop-out.

I forgot, this all seems normal from someone who [COLOR=Yellow]THINKS WE ARE RELATED TO BANANAS!!![/COLOR]

AttroPheed · Aug 24, 2005, 06:18 AM

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Then give a link to any post that has evidence that proves that humans evolved from a lower life form.

refer to my earlier posts.

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The link I gave actually has scientific evidence that your statement earlier is a crock too... and how UN-scientific the human evolution theory actually is.

No it doesn't or evolutionary theory would have been abandoned. It only has to be proven wrong once. It hasn't. That page is, at best, an attempt at establishing a conspiracy theory spanning generations of scientists from around the world of every different faith. It fails even in that regard. I know this because I read it.

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I ask you for evidence and your only response has been "you don't know how science works"... What a cop-out.

And the evidence of creation is where? How many times have multiple people asked you to provide any evidence whatsoever of creation? A link, a picture, anything with any amount of evidence of magical ghosts creating a 6000 year old planet from nothing.

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I forgot, this all seems normal from someone who [COLOR=Yellow]THINKS WE ARE RELATED TO BANANAS!!![/COLOR]

Attack my character with childish nonsense all you want it wont stop science from proving more and religion answering less.

BWX · Aug 24, 2005, 07:12 AM

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refer to my earlier posts.

That is sooo weak, such BS- you are dodging the issue. No posts here or anywhere prove that humans evolved from apes or bananas or one cell organisms like you believe.

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And the evidence of creation is where? How many times have multiple people asked you to provide any evidence whatsoever of creation? A link, a picture, anything with any amount of evidence of magical ghosts creating a 6000 year old planet from nothing.

Obviously you don't read any posts, but just sit and try to think up more things to say. Problem is, you never say anything new. I swear to God you must have amnesia- if you read my posts you would see that I never claim to be able to prove creation. That is not to say there is not overwhelming evidence of it.

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Attack my character with childish nonsense all you want it wont stop science from proving more and religion answering less.

Oh, wait.. you are the one that said we are related to bananas correct? Or did I read that incorrectly? What is childish about comparing one statement to another in the context of the fact it is one person saying them all? You saying we are related to bananas and telling my I don't understand science is just way too funny. Then from someone saying the garbage and worthless bile below, then being so sensitive is even more amazing. That is the problem, we all know what you really think, and I think you really aren't worth talking to.

You want childish? The useless remarks below are childish. Yes, every time you play a martyr, I will quote you, and make you look very foolish.

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AttroPheed's childish remarks:

I'd swallow jesus's wad if he's willing to answer me a few questions.

i'm just making fun of someone's imaginary friend.

So pretty much all I have to do to get into heaven is not cry out 'bullshit!' after a sermon? Someone shoulda told me that sooner. In this busy day and age I dont have time to adhere to a strict set of moral codes and give thanks for everything I earn let alone whine until some pussy assed money grubbing politicians make my twisted, crazy assed view of the world a law. I'd love the ability to cast aside any responsiblity for my actions too. I've always wanted to beat a hooker to death with a table leg but tolerance for my fellow man has always stayed my hand. If all else fails I can ask forgiveness from superman err jesus and I'm set.
Wont it piss off all the people that actually lived their lives for and by god tho if we just let in every hopeful agnostic and pussy that holds onto a thread of what is left of organized religion because they are too scared to let go of childish bullshit and depend solely on themselves? It seems to be a very blatant, last ditch effort ad campaign by a failing church to me but here's hoping blind faith isn't as stupid an idea as it's continually proven to be.

Jesus loves me. Now if I can just find my lucky table leg I'll go hit the red light district on my way to church. I'll see you bitches in heaven!

Sure saying "dont trust your religious text" is a little nuts but isn't ignoring physical evidence that contradicts it in some very serious places just fucking stupid? I think it is, and I think it's time we grew up as a society.

Prove he does. Or even prove there is a creator that give's half a shit about his subjects. Prove that jesus even ever really walked the earth(ignore that one ). Fuck, prove he's not a giant female snake-like creature that survives on a diet of infant unicorns

Very nice, think again before you call me childish.

I really have no desire to talk to someone like you anyway.. So don't be surprised when I don't respond to one of your insulting, redundant, repetitive, and already answered posts.

Zelig · Aug 24, 2005, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BWX

Obviously you don't read any posts, but just sit and try to think up more things to say. Problem is, you never say anything new. I swear to God you must have amnesia- if you read my posts you would see that I never claim to be able to prove creation. That is not to say there is not overwhelming evidence of it.

Well, since my posts seem to be getting the silent treatment, I'll respond to this for AttroPheed...

Nobody has been asking for proof of creatonism, simply any evidence, and rather than post a single shred of it, you reply with such statements repeatedly.

Come on then, please enlighten us as to what the overwhelming evidence is.

Lakevren · Aug 24, 2005, 09:07 AM

For SFOSOK:

http://www.evolvefish.com/fish/media...usLovesYou.gif
*Warning: image has word of ahole.

I win.

AttroPheed · Aug 24, 2005, 10:32 AM

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That is sooo weak, such BS- you are dodging the issue. No posts here or anywhere prove that humans evolved from apes or bananas or one cell organisms like you believe.

We didn't evolve from apes or bananas.

Posts here and elsewhere prove that evolution is a viable theory and creation is not. I don't expect you to believe in evolution but at least figure out what it is you're arguing against. I've learned plenty about creation, I don't think it's out of line to ask the same respect in return.

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if you read my posts you would see that I never claim to be able to prove creation. That is not to say there is not overwhelming evidence of it.

Of course you can't claim to prove creation because the overwhelming evidence you speak of does not exist. There's nothing to even suggest that someone didn't just make up divine creation on the spot. The best thing creationists can seem to come up with is guesses based on conjecture and fallacy and conspiracy theories. They certainly havn't found anything that would stand up to the rigorous testing that evolution has gone thru since its inception and still goes thru today.

All creationists have managed to do so far is make gullible simpletons second guess the definition of scientific theory. Why would they settle for something so silly if they had a perfectly plausible theory ready to take evolution's place?

Sandok · Aug 24, 2005, 10:38 AM

There is no proof of god... Comon, there has been no picture, no video, sound recording, no nothing at all. Please, show me the light and show me PROOF!!!

Utter, irefsuible proof that no eathly being can deny!

River · Aug 24, 2005, 11:12 AM

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[color=white]For example; the JW’s (Jehovah Witnesses) believe (along with some other religions) that only JW’s will go to heaven, and that any one else, regardless of their religion, will not. JW’s in fact will make fun of other religions, as well as those who believe in that religion. Now there’s a fine way for a person of God to act, isn’t it?[/color]
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[color=white]JW’s also will go as far as to not spend time with other family members who are non-JW’s, forsaking their children and their grandkids. This is another Godly way to act huh?[/color]
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[color=white]If these JW’s are in fact God fearing true believers of God’s word, how can they then forsake their own family members, as well as life long friends just because they don’t believe the same as they do?[/color]
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[color=white]JW’s are considered by many to be a cult. They even have cult like prophecies, one of which has been the constant changing of the date of the 2nd coming. They had to change the date because when the first date came and went and no one saw the 2nd coming, they had to come up with a new date, and then another one.[/color]
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[color=white]People, do you really think that God sits up there(?) and looks down on upon the masses and says to himself, “lets see, I need to bring home about 150,000 people today. Let’s take about 50,000 of the sick who I don’t feel like heeling, and let’s take about 50,000 in accidents, and let the remaining 50,000 be killed by war, by other people and by suicide, that ought to do it.”[/color]
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Gabriel_Etranil · Aug 24, 2005, 12:54 PM

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If you're talking about global warming as a result of human arrogance, yeah, it's a little disgusting. If you're talking about evolution, at least they're teaching something that there is hard, documented evidence of. It'd be nice if they could approach environmentalism with the same tact but one should never underestimate the power of loud stupid people in large groups.

I was addressing gloabal warming being the result of human arrogance, that is what disgusts me.