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Aug 1, 2005, 03:19 PM
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Should Public Schools..
Should School's teach your children about sex, homosexuality, and transexuality?
I think that job is for the parents. It's the over all lack of active participation in a childs development that has created this problem.
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Aug 1, 2005, 06:23 PM
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they do teach children about sex. homosexuality is kind of inferred more than taught (i think the average person can imagine the mechanics) and transsexuality is simply a person that thinks they should be the opposite sex so i dont think it really applies to the topic. couldn't get mom to sign the permission slip? you should know this stuff.
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It's the over all lack of active participation in a childs development that has created this problem.
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what problem? your ignorance?
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Aug 1, 2005, 11:30 PM
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thanks for the attack, but as you should have found out by now it does absolutely nothing. But I hope it makes you feel better, cause if it didn't than you probably shouldn't opst at all. It is the parents responsibility to teach this subject to their children.
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Aug 2, 2005, 04:45 AM
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The problem is most parents dont. Either because they are too busy or dont want to have that discussion with their kids. Before we start the lessons a letter is sent home telling the parents that if they dont want their kids participating in it to contact the school. Teenagers have sex, wether or not they have had "the talk". The lessons just teach them about puberty and safe sex, and it has proven itself to work. Apparently it is not part of the curriculum in Texas, which if im not mistaken has an unusually high STD and teenage pregnancy rate.
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Aug 2, 2005, 05:21 PM
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Actually the class really doesn't matter. In California girls at the high school got pregnant all the time, and abortions. I knew a girl who had 4 abortions. Its not how much you beat it into them. Like cigarretes, you could make the whole entire pack a warning label and no one would care.
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Aug 3, 2005, 01:17 AM
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They do teach this in public schools.
Ever take a health class in high school? That is where they teach it. Ironically though it is also taught in History class also as a particular form of cultural revolution.
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Aug 3, 2005, 01:44 AM
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i see no reason as to why it shouldnt be taught in schools.
the part i will argue is the curriculum needs to be changed. when i went through it, they always pushed abstinance is the only thing you should ever do. its kinda been a proven fact that that theory doesnt work. they should be teaching more about safe sex and other protection, something i dont ever remember hearing when i had the classes.
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Aug 3, 2005, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by SFOSOK
I knew a girl who had 4 abortions. Its not how much you beat it into them
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And you think the parenting of "4 abortions girl" is the key to her behaving responsibly?
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Aug 3, 2005, 05:47 AM
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Teaching about sex and safe sex obviously be in school but not anything else
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Aug 3, 2005, 06:40 AM
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I think that schools should teach kids about sex, but also that parents should have an important role. The schools should teach "technicalities" that are important and some parents might not know, but the parents are important in giving the children the right attitude and understanding. The fact is that parents don't do their part, either because of some "provincialistic" moral, or because they are simply lazy. And it's not like with cigarettes: sex is not bad! Treating sex like something bad also contributes to the problem. People should just truly learn things like abortion is really not a healthy way of birth-control and such.
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Aug 3, 2005, 09:04 AM
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I think parents have been shifting their responsibilities to others for a while now. A television for a babysitter, the schools to raise their children. I mean honestly, I think parents need to get off their asses and take care of their responsibilities. Not buy their 12 year old GTA and then blame videogames for their kids problems.
On another note, I want to be a teacher and wouldn't mind teaching sex education, I just wish parents did their part so the class wouldn't even need to exist.
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Aug 3, 2005, 09:44 AM
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Well if you are going to teach sex education then you have to believe in your topic. Right now moral and ethical questions aside - and aside from the fact that parents don't always give their chidren the facts (nor are they ever really likely to) sex education right now is about saving lives.
People will always (and always have) indulged in risky sexual behaviour - even some forms of behaviour that you might not agree with. But given that you can never really stop this, you can at least reduce the risks - and in so doing in the long run reduce the risks for yourselves and for those you claim you love aswell.
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Aug 3, 2005, 10:47 PM
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The child that does not know what sex is, is a sheltered one. I don't believe a parent, that would allow their child to be in such a state, would want them engaging in a sex ed. class.
As for hygiene, the young womans gynecologist is probably more qualified then the high school gym teacher.
Just set out a bucket of condoms they are gonna fck like bunnies, it is hormonal it's natural.
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Aug 4, 2005, 02:12 AM
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I agree...
if the issue was tolerance for alternative lifestyles...I would still say that is the province of the church or family.
I personally dont think teachers really get paid enough, and ironically parents expect so much from them, they are just people too...
Whatever policy that is determined to the be the correct one, teaches desperately walk a fine line between what is "real" and "relevant" and what they are required to teach or say on any subject that asks the child and the parents what moral compass they use to navigate around these issues.
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Aug 5, 2005, 02:49 AM
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i think sex education should be required in school at some point. there's no reason to not have at least a chapter in a health class at some point. however, it should not be left up to just the school for information about it. the only thing the school should do is throw the information out there. it should be up to the parents to ensure their child understands the consequences in sexual activity.
kids in high school are going to have sex, educated or uneducated. all you can really hope for is fewer kids doing it. there are many smart kids out there, and with proper education it will cause some of them to think twice about it before acting. i don't know about anyone else, but by the time we got to the sex education chapter in health when i was a freshman in high school, i didn't learn anything new. my parents never once had any kind of a talk with me, not because they're bad parents but probably just because i was their first child and they didn't know how to go about it. i have no unplanned children or std's or 4 abortions so far.
some kids need the parenting more than the information, and some kids need information more than the parenting. that's why sex education should co-exist on the school and parenting level.
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Aug 5, 2005, 03:07 AM
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good responses
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Aug 14, 2005, 06:01 AM
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I dont know about any of you, but i got taught this in Primary school!
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