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Jul 13, 2005, 01:42 PM
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Another Republican Scandal in the Bush Administration.
Well gee.. looky looky at this. Bushs "closest" advisor in scandal, man this is just too funny.
Quotes From Globe & Mail: After denying for two years that Mr. Rove had anything to do with disclosing the identity of CIA agent Valerie Plame, the White House is now facing acute embarrassment over publication of an e-mail that shows Mr. Rove did just that in a conversation with a reporter for Time magazine.
Mr. McClellan, the White House spokesman, later said that suggestions Mr. Rove was the source of the leak were "ridiculous." "If anyone in this administration was involved in it, they would no longer be in this administration," he added.
Lmao we shall see.. we shall see
simpy stunning. 
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Jul 13, 2005, 03:17 PM
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Those denials were largely unquestioned until the disclosure this weekend of a July 2003 e-mail written by Time's Washington reporter Matthew Cooper to his boss, which stated in part, "Spoke to Rove on double super secret background for about two mins . . ..
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ROFLMAO, oh man this guy is the reporter that Rove divulged the information too? I've seen better writing in 2nd grade students.
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Jul 13, 2005, 05:14 PM
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ROFLMAO, oh man this guy is the reporter that Rove divulged the information too? I've seen better writing in 2nd grade students.
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I don't think the reporter here in question is the one to be worrying about.. whether or not he writes like a grade 2 student really doesn't shed light on what has happened here.. lmao

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Jul 13, 2005, 06:12 PM
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Personally, I don't think it's a Republican or Democratic issue. Rove, party withstanding, F'd apparently was the "leak". If, after the investigation is completed, he's found guilty, then President Bush SHOULD fire him, again, regardless of party affiliation, patronage, loyalty, etc. To me, that would show the "Resolve" that both Pres. Bush and PM Blaire both speak so highly of. Resolve to be honest and clear-cut in their decisions. Honor and character are individual traits, not party handouts. It's a shame someone as far up the political food chain could make this big of a foul up. One would think that as soon as the story broke, almost 2 yrs. ago, that Mr. Rove would've had the character and integrity to stand up for his loose lips. Maybe then it wouldn't have been the media circus issue it's become.
Oh, yeah. What ever happened to Sandy Berger? The guy who had "top secret" documents magically fall down in his underware in the National Vault. He was about the equivelent to Clinton that Rove is to Bush. Wonder if people that high in politics always get free rides.
Kev
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Jul 13, 2005, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Đamage™
I don't think the reporter here in question is the one to be worrying about.. whether or not he writes like a grade 2 student really doesn't shed light on what has happened here.. lmao 
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You don't find it funny one bit? Now that's odd. This is normally something that people would claim would be proof Bush is a "real dumb@$$" if these words were to come out of his mouth.
I thought it was hilarious that a Time reporter would use such a terminology as "double super secret".
I wonder what the NYT's reporter's source is? It doesn't seem to be Carl Rove.
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Jul 13, 2005, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Gabriel_Etranil
You don't find it funny one bit? Now that's odd. This is normally something that people would claim would be proof Bush is a "real dumb@$$" if these words were to come out of his mouth.
I thought it was hilarious that a Time reporter would use such a terminology as "double super secret".
I wonder what the NYT's reporter's source is? It doesn't seem to be Carl Rove.
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I didn't say it wasn't funny..  what I find extremely hilarious is that someone just got sent to jail for basically the same reason..
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"Maybe Karl will end up sharing a cell with Judith Miller," Mr. Dubose joked, in a reference to the correspondent for The New York Times who last week was sent to jail for refusing to disclose the identity of her source in the same affair."
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I'd like to see what happens with Karl Rove, seeing as
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"Mr. McClellan, the White House spokesman, later said that suggestions Mr. Rove was the source of the leak were "ridiculous." "If anyone in this administration was involved in it, they would no longer be in this administration," he added.
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"Mr. Bush uses for Karl Rove, his closest political adviser and the man given credit for winning him two consecutive presidential elections."
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No wonder Bush is seen by so many fronts to be a puppet and a "dumbass", he surronds himself with people of the same calibre.. "birds of a feather flock together" I can't wait to see what happens next with that administration of assclowns. lmao 
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Jul 13, 2005, 08:17 PM
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utter absolute bullshit....come on Damage..you can do better than this...
You wanna bash Bush or Drove I could care less, but at least establish perspective....
and that means from the left and the right of the information highway...
Seems there is more scatalogical references to bad reporting from the left side.....
nuff said
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Jul 13, 2005, 08:18 PM
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* Her husbands own website mentions her as a member of the CIA
So if any one outed her he did
* She works a desk job at a CIA headquarters Langley (a dead give away)
So you can greatee she was known my many as an agent of the us goverment
no big secret. I sure many forgien goverments knew LOL'
was married to a public figure in the government
* Attended dinners at the white house, including photos the publicity "whole nine yards" of her at the events and her name of her galore.
So much for bing under any cover being so high profile that would be like president bush being "under cover" LOL'
* His wife recommended him to be sent over to investigate the yellow cake innocent. Not a secret...
Interesting considering a panel later found oposite to his findings...Funny he was a
poor choice and cleanerly "anti war" before iraq.
Karl Rove has done nothing wrong and there is NO case other then this
poltical tabliod show the liberal media and democrats are putting on...
Chances anything will happen? he more likely to get hit by a car then
be found guilty, It neraly impossable to prove.
* He would have to have goten her name from a classified source
this must be proveable, isn't
*He would have to have knew she was undercover and intentially
leaked her name.this must be proveable isn't
*She not been over seas in 5 years!
again does not meet the statute
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Jul 13, 2005, 08:25 PM
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Blown completely out of proportion and in light of all the Democratic scandels, a tempest in a teapot
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Jul 13, 2005, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Falstaff
utter absolute bullshit....come on Damage..you can do better than this...
You wanna bash Bush or Drove I could care less, but at least establish perspective....
and that means from the left and the right of the information highway...
Seems there is more scatalogical references to bad reporting from the left side.....
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ok.. Falstaff, I got this information in the Globe & Mail lmao.. so as far as information being from left or right.. take that up with them.. not me. The last time I checked the Globe & Mail doesn't take left or right.. and if they do enlighten me.. lol wow. 
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Jul 13, 2005, 09:32 PM
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I am suspect of any source of information except FOX news and even that is biased towards the right..
The economy of the USA and its growth are worthy issues...
at least you didnt mention the f*&king BBC......LOL
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Jul 13, 2005, 11:50 PM
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I am suspect of any source of information except FOX news and even that is biased towards the right..
The economy of the USA and its growth are worthy issues...
at least you didnt mention the f*&king BBC......LOL
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What!? BBC.. the Bogus Broadcasting Corporation? It's hard to find any news source/agency telling the "whole" story, but I think I know were your going with that..
peace bro 
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Jul 14, 2005, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Đamage™
What!? BBC.. the Bogus Broadcasting Corporation? It's hard to find any news source/agency telling the "whole" story, but I think I know were your going with that..
peace bro 
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BBC
The same one that won't say they referd to the terrorists as terriosts,
But will only call them "bombers" and claim that europeans aren't terroised
just americans  . Sucide bombers blowing thier people up  I'm supirzed
the didn't jut go a head and call them freedom fighters  . Thier people
have surly been terrorized....
Really cheesy stuff
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Jul 14, 2005, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by The_Neon_Cowboy
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Karl Rove has done nothing wrong and there is NO case other then this
poltical tabliod show the liberal media and democrats are putting on...
Chances anything will happen? he more likely to get hit by a car then
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So when Rove goes on TV months ago and in answer to the question "did you have anything to do with the leak re Valarie Plame" (paraphrase) replies "I did not reveal her name and I did not even know her name" (close paraphrase) that is OK? Sure, technically he did not lie, but do you believe that he was being honest? Bush's closest advisor, just like the President, should be completely honest with the public always, forever, period. Its slimy to say the least and if you don't view it as slimy, regardless of your political views, then you're slimy too.
When Clinton said "I did not have sex with that women" because he ridiculously did not consider the oral variety as "sex", conservatives went apesh!t: "he lied to the public", "he demeaned the integrity of the presidency", "he parsed words and spoke half-truths" (all paraphrases but the point is clear). Now, when its one of their heros, magically, all of those things are forgotten and its "well Rove committed no crime", "its the liberal media" and a witchhunt. UNBELIEVABLE!!!!! And, of course, the sheeple will just follow along to the Fox news/White House talking points.
Hippocrites.
Ferd-
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Jul 14, 2005, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferdinand_L
When Clinton said "I did not have sex with that women" because he ridiculously did not consider the oral variety as "sex", conservatives went apesh!t:
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He actually said "I did not have sexual relations with that woman,..." not just 'sex'. So the "he did not consider the oral variety as 'sex'." arguement doesn't stand.
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Sure, technically he did not lie, but do you believe that he was being honest?
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Now that is just contradictory.
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