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Old May 10, 2005, 04:18 PM   #1
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Fat People

I saw this on another forum's "controversal forum" section. So:
Fat people. Large people. Overweight people. Whatever
Is it their fault? What do you think of them? What makes them fat?
In my opinion, once your past the age of 7, it's time that you are able to burn that "baby fat" off. Past 10, well, your just fat. And it's your fault and your fault only. I don't "hate" fat people because a few of my friends are currently...overweight, It just annoys me when they don't put in the effort to lose the weight. They are only hurting themselves and their bodies... (of course, and pissing off John Doe from "Se7en"-OMG what he was saying about the gluttony victim in the police cruiser was hilarious!)

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Old May 10, 2005, 04:23 PM   #2
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Well... I think it is their fault Because theyre the ones Eating all that Crap. No one has a Gun to their head telling them How to eat and how to eat... Unless thier parents misfed them and thats a Diff. Story.

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Old May 10, 2005, 04:29 PM   #3
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eh, i'm overweight (6'1" 230lbs) i know it's my fault. but in all honesty i'm healthier right now than i've ever been. i just lost 55lbs over the last 4 months and am sticking to a very healthy and natural diet. I know that i could lose more weight if i exercised, but i can't get motivated to do it.

also, i should point out that i live in the 2nd most obese city in the world. milwaukee is number one. 89% of our city is overweight and about 70% are OBESE (not just overweight, but extremely overweight)

so if you compare me to the rest of the city, i'm actually less overweight than most of them.
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Old May 10, 2005, 04:41 PM   #4
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Fat people. Large people. Overweight people. Whatever
Is it their fault? What do you think of them?
Why do you choose to take an opinion on other peoples bodies? It's not something you have to do and other peoples bodies very rarely truly affect others. Just food for thought.
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Old May 10, 2005, 04:42 PM   #5
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I'm probably considered overweight but that's not an accurate assumption. I right now am about 5'4" and weigh nearly 160 pounds. But here is my most recent picture.



I started off my day with a bowl of "Honey Bunches of Oats" and a smoothie of apple juice, fresh sliced strawberries, bananas, ice, and nonfat vanilla yogurt. I've gotten quite heavy because I have gotten lazier and fatter. In my prime I weighed 135, benchpressed 190, did 76 push ups in 1 minute, 87 situps in 2 minutes, 15 pull ups, 28 dips, 25 one armed push ups, and ran the mile in 7 flat.

I'm nowhere near capable of doing any of those things right now but I'm getting back into shape and eating better as you've seen since I'm joining a martial arts dojo.

As for fat people, I don't understand how someone can hurt themselves like that. It's not a matter of do I look good, it's just I know when my body isn't working right because it's out of shape. It doesn't feel good to do anything like that. And just to let yourself get worse and worse....*shiver*
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Old May 10, 2005, 05:07 PM   #6
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Fat or obese? Fat people are mainly lazy, eat too much (or not the right foods) and don't work-out. Obese people have a disease and therefore cannot be blamed, unless they did something to contract it (like unprotected sex and STDs) but obesity is not contagious. Mostly it's depression that causes people to eat too much and be overweight.
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I mean fat (obese is just sad, it's not always their fault).

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As for fat people, I don't understand how someone can hurt themselves like that. It's not a matter of do I look good, it's just I know when my body isn't working right because it's out of shape. It doesn't feel good to do anything like that. And just to let yourself get worse and worse....*shiver*
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Fat or obese? Fat people are mainly lazy, eat too much (or not the right foods) and don't work-out. Obese people have a disease and therefore cannot be blamed, unless they did something to contract it (like unprotected sex and STDs) but obesity is not contagious. Mostly it's depression that causes people to eat too much and be overweight.
I've never heard of it being a disease that can be transfered by sex. I've heard of it being genetically linked but that doesn't mean that a person who inherits it can't hold off the weight with diet and exersize.
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from a medical standpoint obesity is just another level of fat. it's anyone who is more than 25% overweight
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Old May 10, 2005, 08:05 PM   #11
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I think some people are prone to put more weight on with ease than others, it can however be controlled. So I'd say that it is their fault, you don't see any 300lbs starving African people do you, so its all about what you are shovelling into your mouth.
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I've never heard of it being a disease that can be transfered by sex. I've heard of it being genetically linked but that doesn't mean that a person who inherits it can't hold off the weight with diet and exersize.
I was using STDs as an example of ways people can be at fault for having a disease. As obesity is not contagious obese people can't be at fault for having it.

No, obesity being genetically linked doesn't mean you will be obese, but it makes it hard(er) to stay thin.

As I said I think it has a lot to do with depression, but evolution is probably the main reason people are fat. People just aren't meant to sit around and have food so easily at their disposal.
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I think some people are prone to put more weight on with ease than others, it can however be controlled. So I'd say that it is their fault, you don't see any 300lbs starving African people do you, so its all about what you are shovelling into your mouth.
Haha, I agree.
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Old May 10, 2005, 08:36 PM   #14
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Africa is also vastly underdeveloped. People there are forced to work for their food, so it has to do with the environment people live in. I agree some people are just fat and lazy, but you gotta take into consideration that the chemicals in food now-a-days also might play a factor. Chances are there are a number of causes of obesity. It might just very well be that people can become addicted to food.
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Africa is also vastly underdeveloped. People there are forced to work for their food, so it has to do with the environment people live in. I agree some people are just fat and lazy, but you gotta take into consideration that the chemicals in food now-a-days also might play a factor. Chances are there are a number of causes of obesity. It might just very well be that people can become addicted to food.
Well Eventhough there might be some Chemicals here and there...Doesnt mean that Its the Foods Fault...If the Food is Not healthy to begin with it still ones fault for making the choice of not eating Healthy Food...Think about it what kind of food is most likely to have Something that will be addicting? Now what Kind of Food do you Mean?
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the newest thing though is people just not takeing responsability. hell, look at the fat bastards that sued mcdonalds because it made them fat. apparently it wasnt the persons fault that they ate there 3 times a day for their entire life, but it was mcdonalds fault that they became fat from eating there 3 times a day for their entire life.

i saw another rather shocking one last summer. this big heavy women was out jogging? waddleing at a fast pace? either way, was nice to see shes trying to take the initative to lose some weight. but wait, whats this? shes brought along a full, super sized bag of doritos and a 20oz mt dew for her exercise. hmmm well no wonder shes a little hefty.

some people just dont understand the concept of the less you eat, and the healther you eat, the easier it is to lose weight. i just think killing off a bag of doritos and a 20oz mt dew when you go joging might have negative effects against what your trying to do.
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Old May 11, 2005, 01:19 AM   #17
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Generally speaking, being overwieght, fat, obese, etc, is due to so many factors that can be described organically as a disease or condition. People are accustomed to compartmentalizing and labeling various problems that human beings have in very narrow terms, but the exact opposite is true. I can speak from personal experience, for a normal healthy person, extra wieght for whatever reason will eventually tax the endocrine and circulatory system enough that it the pyscho-dynamic effects or consequences of a lifestyle , can and will destroy that person.

At my age, I find that simple exercise is more difficult and a restriction in dietary intake less desirable for me, therefore it begs more of my own personal discipline to maintain my health. Fat kills, and eventually it will overwhelm the bodies ability to compensate. Americans enjoy the dubious distinction of being the fattest group of people on the planet.
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Old May 11, 2005, 02:04 AM   #18
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i'll admit, i hate being fat, i hate not being able to do a pullup or rapid fire pushups (i CAN do a few pushups, just not too fast) but i honestly can't see myself as ever being the guy w/ the perfect body. i've been fat since i was 5 months old, so i don't even know what it's like to be thin.

maybe, just maybe if you look far enough back it's my parents fault for feeding me too much before i had the choice whether or not to eat, maybe it's their fault for not pushing me into sports or restricting my diet when i was young, but i gained most of my weight when i was in high school. i went from 220 pounds to 285 pounds in a little over a year. during that time i was depressed, i was suicidal, my parents broke up, my sister had to move back in w/ us because her husband was abusing/stalking her, and i ended up raising my nieces because my sister was too busy to look after them.

also during that time i dropped out of school for a semester because w/ all the other stressors in my life i couldn't take it anymore.

so if i wanted, i could easily use any of those things as an excuse for my weight, but i don't. my weight is my own fault. i know that the nights that i sit around eating candy and cereal and watching TV rather than doing something productive are my own doing. i know that i don't stick to serving sizes, and i don't exercise enough. but like i said, i've lost almost all of the weight i gained in high school, i'm in college, working, and eating healthy...i feel better than i ever have, and i look better than i ever did.
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I think most people who are "out of shape" are just lazy.

Many who are truly "fat" though, have circumstances beyond their control (gland disorders, poor genetics, etc) at work...although many of them are just lazy too.



I blame Krispy Kreme and those god forsakenly good donuts *stuffs face*
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I think most people who are "out of shape" are just lazy.

Many who are truly "fat" though, have circumstances beyond their control (gland disorders, poor genetics, etc) at work...although many of them are just lazy too.



I blame Krispy Kreme and those god forsakenly good donuts *stuffs face*
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Heh, come to think of it, I'm prolly gunna be obese when I'm older. I eat all the fatty and sugery foods I want right now, but my fast metabolism makes me a twig.
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I saw this on another forum's "controversal forum" section. So:
Fat people. Large people. Overweight people. Whatever
Is it their fault? What do you think of them? What makes them fat?
In my opinion, once your past the age of 7, it's time that you are able to burn that "baby fat" off. Past 10, well, your just fat. And it's your fault and your fault only. I don't "hate" fat people because a few of my friends are currently...overweight, It just annoys me when they don't put in the effort to lose the weight. They are only hurting themselves and their bodies... (of course, and pissing off John Doe from "Se7en"-OMG what he was saying about the gluttony victim in the police cruiser was hilarious!)

BTW: Hi...my name's Tor. I joined because this had an off topic section, and this forum looked fun. Hi!
your high if you think a 10 year old is responsible for they weight.does a ten year old go to the store and buy the food??at that age a child goes by instinct,if us as parents would listen to our children when they say they are full then we would have alot of skinny children.once you as a human"well us anyhow"develope a eating habbit then it sticks with you for life and we will be fighting it forever.


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Old May 11, 2005, 09:35 PM   #25
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I would just like to say that my weight fluctuates between 130 and 155 pounds.

130 during the summer and 155 during the winter.
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