The Fourth Reich !

Falstaff

wanna bet, if not Bush, someone else with the courage to stand his ground, and not a clown like Clinton, at least he had the common decency to honor what few achievements that Clinton managed to get credit for, Like the Governer of Missouri, making tough choices and preserving the economy, and getting the welfare culture the Democrats created back to work and off their collective asses.
No more parasites, strong government and reality checks for the liberals and liberal democrats, we are tired of paying for free lunchs and beauracracy.
Mine and drill and lets get back and track with our energy programs. Americans have been spoiled by idealism and the Hollywood spin on politics. It is time for the captains of industry to rise again, the quickening has begun, and America shall have to compete with India and China, of whom dont give a damn about the U.S. and would gladly see us fall under their influence.
The world order must be restored, for eventually we will not be divided by our race, our culture or our religion, we shall draw the line between the haves and the have nots, and I would rather be one of the "haves" with a fully loaded revolver and enough ammo to protect myself from the mis creants that years of social welfare have created. They must get off their asses and go to work and contribute or find a niche that they can to improve America, or otherwise join the criminals and terrorists of backward nations, and die under a hail of molten lead and laser guided justice.
Freedom is not free, and I am not ashamed to say I did my part, let the young whiners and "joiners" consider the possibility of a anarchy and partisan politics destroying our America, our freedom and replacing it with mechanisms that destroy our desire to strive and prosper, put government in our pockets and force us all into rat cages.
George Bush is about a strong America, love it or leave it....and there is no viable comparison to any dictator alive or dead.

It was not a republican that got us into Vietnam....oh no, the choice was made by a Democrat.
South Vietnam was a puppet government created by the French, and was a lost cause before we went into defend the bastions of the free world against communism, but then that was a different world then, and no one born after 1975 has a F*&kig clue about history, unless the crack a book. It is with some regret that I see the best minds of our time, sitting in front of a game console and expecting instant results, instant success and instant outcomes. Life is not like that at all.

BWX

I was born in 72' - but in school I read history books before they made them all "politically correct"...

Falstaff

Myself as well, I graduated in 1977, and was serving overseas for my country before Microsoft, before Apple and before game consoles, kids today...sigh, dont have a clue. Our legacy is a sub culture of brilliant children without a real idea what life is about, and freedom, and democracy....sigh.
What have we done?
in the pursuit for entertainment and the almighty dollar, we have damaged our youth, time to get them off their asses and join the world, China and India are going to take over the world, and our children sit on their rumps and expect a handout, a game pad or joystick, and download MP3s and porn while the world changes around them.....

BWX

Well a little hand-eye coordinating video games for leisure is not a bad thing.. but the attitude of many people (old and young alike) in the US is bad I agree.

radTube

When do you people get tired of repeating this bullsh*t about a strong country and a strong president over and over again? That's obviously nothing but machismo and ignorance at the fact that the rest of the world sees America increasingly as a bully. And bullying is usually a much greater indication of insecurity than it is of strength.

If you don't see any other similarities in Nazi and US mentalities, surely you can't dismiss the obvious superiority complex at work in both.

Jeff, you say freedom isn't free, which is true, but doesn't the rate at which you keep losing your freedoms seem a bit alarming? Does it mean that being an American is getting cheaper?

Falstaff

if we let the democrats take over rad, we will lose more freedoms, government will crawl deeper into our pockets....it will happen. That is why social security here in America is corrupt and in trouble. Democrats have created a monster, and now we have a sub culture of Americans that claim they are economically repressed, but the truth is, they are lazy, and have learned to suck the teet of the great cow.
BMX, I teach people to use the software for training for tactical and strategic enviornments, and young soldiers are learning very quickly there are no cheat codes in combat, no console they can reset and they cant turn it off when it shoots at them...it is frightening to me to see kids step into the training eviornment without a sense of reality.....just scary man...because wars are won by soldiers in the front lines, our technology is getting bigger than we are...

radTube

Is it so hard to see that it's not about democrats vs. republicans. Your governments have been more or less corrupt for quite a while, regardless of the prevalent political party. It's all about the money, and you know it.

Anyway, I don't see how you (and many others) can think like you do when your current government keeps tightening it's grip on your jugular... You're just avoiding the real questions.

BWX

Dude- that isn't the point. Video games aren't "bad" Not everyone is a soldier, or training to become one.. Yeah in the "real world" playing them is a waste of time.. but they aren't what is wrong with America. It is people that are brainwashed into thinking things like GW is Hitler.

davidnsibs

Well, from my pov in the UK im glad 'GW' will be gone next time around since we didnt manage to oust Blair. The UK has allowed itself to be used by America far too easily recently and we need to get back our identity. Your America has different views on war, benefits etc and I'm proud of our social security, our NHS and (in times gone by) our more careful consideration of foreign policy. The UK needs to stop being USA's puppy dog and that'll only happen if either Bush or Blair go

digerati

Show me one world power that doesn't have a corrupt government and I'll give you a cookie.

radTube

That was my point exactly. But that doesn't mean you should just ignore the corruption and pretend that Bush and his cronies are doing all they can to ensure your personal welfare and happiness . There's no such thing as a perfect government. Or a perfect form of government for that matter. They all consist of human beings seeking power and wealth. (And I'm a cynical bastard, I know...)

BTW, I tried to look for some statistics on corruption and here's what I found: Corruption Perceptions Index 2004. USA isn't doing so bad (being at #17), but I'm happy to see our insignificant, non-world-power Finland at the top for the fifth time in a row.

digerati

I think no such thing. I also don't ensure my safety in the government which is why I want to own a firearm.

radTube

You need to own a lethal weapon to feel safe? Not exactly the definition of a civilized society. To me it seems that America is sliding backwards at an alarming rate, and the thing that really baffles me is that most of the American people apparently see this as going up instead.

digerati

I don't need to own anything to feel safe. But History speaks for itself, Stalin took away his people's guns, so did Hitler.

The only person who can gaurantee myself anything is myself. If I need to protect myself then I'll do it, I'm not going to call the cops and hope God is smiling on me today. Everyone is willing to give away their guns because they don't feel responsible even for their own safety. That's why they speed, they drink and drive. People in modernized societies have forgotten that they are still the only ones who can ensure their safety, not the government.

Do I feel safe? Yes. I live in a nice neighborhood. If someone were to try and kill me I wouldn't feel safe. I'd be scared. I don't know how to fight. I don't have any weapons. And if someone wants to kill me he'll probably know how to fight and have a weapon. That puts me at an insane advantage. Even if we both knew how to fight and both had a weapon my odds of survival are 1 and 3 because the only results are: He kills me, we kill each other, I kill him.

It's not that I don't feel save without a weapon, I don't thinkt he world is out to get me. But if something were to happen the only thing I can rely on is myself and whatever I have in my posession.

Pompey

Zorg

upholding law and order may require some violations depending on the democratic system u live in

digerati

Our immature minds can't. Does your immature mind see the logic in violating people in sweatshops in order to get our shoes, shirts, pants, socks, underwear? Do you understand we hold political and a military force in our country so you can have imported fruits and chocolate cheaply?

Our generation has turned a blind eye and let the government run loose and only give a damn when we see it in the News.

If you want to condemn the government for violating human rights, then I suggest you stop supporting the violation and only buy stuff made in the USA because then you're no better than the government.

Falstaff

I disagree, the addiction to Video Games is bad, like any addiction. Our technology uses that fascination with video games to create these surreal tactical enviornments. It was President Bush and his philosophy that ushered new interest into software that accurately mimics wartime, and thank god for that. We can fly drones up and down the border of Pakistan now and pick off the bad guys. I do agree that not everyone is a soldier, but I ask you, what you do for freedom, and I remind anyone that gives a damn that your freedoms that you enjoy today were hard fought and hard one.
and by the way, the only Dude's I know are cowboy wannabes....LOL

BWX

Yeah bing addicted to anything is bad.. I was talking about them more as just a hobby.

radTube

Right, the age old argument against gun control. Would you be surprised to hear that it was actually the Weimar regime in the 1920s that introduced gun control in germany, primarily to disarm the private armies and bring stability to the country? And anyway, I highly doubt that Hitler, being democratically elected and supported by the large majority of the German people (undoubtedly because some of them were afraid not to) would have fared any worse given less strict gun laws. Note that gun ownership wasn't a big thing amongst Germans (except in the private nazi armies) even before the law. And all Stalin did about the pre-existing weapon control laws in his country was to ban knives and extend it to children above 12, but everyone knows he was a loony.
That's it. If you live in a modern, civilized society, your personal safety doesn't have to be a primary concern. How can you enjoy life if you feel constantly threatened? Anyway, I have nothing against gun ownership. I'm only against uncontrolled or badly controlled possession of lethal weapons. But let's not get into this again, I've heard all about how it's easy for you to get a gun illegally if you can't get it legally. And guns don't kill blah blah blah...
Ahh, I can really smell the machismo... I'd say you should be really afraid if you actually need to plan for the eventuality of someone wanting to kill you. And by the way, you forgot at least one result (which seems the preferred one to me): You stop him from killing you by disabling him somehow. It's not a video game, you know.
And do you feel safer knowing that anyone crazy enough to want to kill you has the same right to carry a gun as you do.

BWX

If someone wanted to kill me, I would disable him by killing him.

radTube

So, a New Zealander is immoral if he doesn't only buy stuff made in the USA? That's a novel idea...

Anyway, can't you see the difference between the actions of American corporations and those of the American government? Well, I have to admit it isn't easy...

radTube