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Old Mar 25, 2005, 01:58 AM   #1
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Terri Schiavo

I think it's time for a change of pace. What are your folks thoughts on this issue?
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Old Mar 25, 2005, 02:09 AM   #2
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Let her die, shes suffered enough already. Inject her with some sore of fluid to make it painless. Straving her to death, i just dont get. But no way keep her alive to suffer !
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Old Mar 25, 2005, 02:43 AM   #3
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I find the husbands motives extremely questionable and she should not die for his financial gain. If they let her die assisted suicides should become legal again, if they remain illegal then I find this completely hipocritical. And nobody has any written proof that this is what she wants, only word of mouth of the husband. I also heard/read somewhere that Terri Schiavo critizied a friend of hers for joking about a similar subject to which Terri is currently in and becoming extremely irrate about this joke.

The husband also got settlement money from a malpractice suit that was supposed to be used to help Terri. I guess he ran out of money and now needs some life insurance money to sustain himself. If it wasn't about money or a "guilty conscience" he would divorce her and sign over the rights to the parents. He never mentioned her "wanting to die" when getting the settlement money.

IMO with the husband being a registered nurse and all the things that have happend to Terri, I think the "potassium imbalance" was not natural.
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Old Mar 25, 2005, 02:46 AM   #4
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Let her die, shes suffered enough already. Inject her with some sore of fluid to make it painless. Straving her to death, i just dont get. But no way keep her alive to suffer !
What beats the shit out of me is they don't want to kill her by giving her a lethal injection, if they decide she will die, but by starving her to death she will die all on her own. In my opinion, they are both the same, except on isn't painful.

I say, let the poor woman die.
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Old Mar 25, 2005, 05:44 AM   #5
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What beats the shit out of me is they don't want to kill her by giving her a lethal injection, if they decide she will die, but by starving her to death she will die all on her own. In my opinion, they are both the same, except on isn't painful.

I say, let the poor woman die.
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why the hell does little jebbie bush want her... publicity, he could not give 2 shits if she lives or dies.

Im just sick of this shit on my t.v. I live on the other side of the world and all i see on tv is her suffering in her bed. Get over it already, and bring on the next "useless/piece of shit/who gives a damn" story.
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Old Mar 25, 2005, 07:45 AM   #6
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A rough time line you should know before saying anything…..

Terri Schiavo is hospitalized…

Her husband and her are both awarded 1 million dollars each in a malpractice settle meant…

She shows some progress TAKEING some STEPS ON HER OWN! Some sounding of words! Hard to do if she’s the vegetable her husband says she is….

Her husband gets power over her and her money since after she dehabilitated. Of course therapy is immediately ceased, as payment for that is coming out of her $1,000,000 settlement... Of course the money is his now…. (But of course if she ever recovered he’d owe he a lot of money via divorce, wich is another option)

He finds another woman, even has kids with her… moves on with his life

Miraculously member those 6 years before the fact after he’s giving up on her and moved on supposedly she had expressed that she world not what to be helping alive by any artificial means. (Kind of funny that just dawned on him so long after the fact eh?)

NEVER told anyone else those wishes didn’t leave a living will…

Trying to get her terminated…. Legal battle in slews…………….. Parents want her to live; her husband wants her to DIE for what ever dubious self serving reasons

(Also doctors say she not in a vegetative state, relatives and nurses say the same! Even saying she can swallow some solid food on her own! Sound out some words / parts, recognize people… stories of abuseiveness , him not wanteing them to take proper / required care.. take his girldfriend in a showing "see shes dieing" and shit .. friends have come forward and said she was on the brink of devoceing him)

A GUY EVEN OFFERED HIM 1 million in CASH! To give right to his parents, Parent offer to take full responsibility for her and all expenses!!!


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Im just sick of this shit on my t.v.
Mee too!

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Old Mar 25, 2005, 08:27 AM   #7
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Death with dignity, Congress really screwed the pooch on this one and set the tone for similiar issues.
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Old Mar 25, 2005, 08:53 AM   #8
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It would be different if her husband wasn't such a scumbag. He's was heard saying things like "is the bitch dead yet?" to the nurses, and "when is she going to die?"

A nurse has also testified under oath that her husband injected her with insulin under her breasts and near here groin after he was in there alone with her. Then the nurse found the syringe in the garbage can.. She reported this to hew supervisors and the police and was fired the next day. That was 1996.

The guy is after the money- whether she wants to be kept alive or not, the guy wants her to die so he can get the money. Their marriage was on the rocks before she mysteriously collapsed.


The courts are making decisions on hearsay. That is the whole problem. If there is no written will, then they should let the people who are willing to make a commitment for the rest of her life make the decisions, not someone who will gain big $$ if she dies.

The whole thing is screwed up because it is all based on hearsay from someone with a conflict of interest..
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Thats the thing bout all this, it always leads bak to wat bout wat the husband did or is doin or wat bout the parents n such, and how they feel, but ya know wat, is it really bout them? she has a right to die, like Jeff says, with dignity, not sum rag doll bein torn between 2 extremes, to tell ya the truth this is really the typ of stiky, synthetic, moral vs. unmoral situation that makes the world such a clusterfunk.

i dunno im done, i could argu 4 ever bout this and have a lil wit sum family, but really, just let go, 4 her sake
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Old Mar 25, 2005, 09:28 AM   #10
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Yeah but what were her wishes? maybe she wants to live? maybe not? This is what it all boils down too-


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The whole thing is screwed up because it is all based on hearsay from someone with a conflict of interest..
not some moral vs unmoral thing...

Simple as that.
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Old Mar 25, 2005, 09:38 AM   #11
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Its sad that her parents can't let go. You just know it is some crack doctor that is trying to get money out of them saying that she can recover. It's been 15 years, let her die. The religious right is saying, "God is keeping her alive, when he wants her, he will take her". God is not keeping her alive, machines and science are, she died 15 years ago. I say, give her some dignity, let her go.
The issue I have trouble with is, why the hell is the federal government getting involved? It seems like an insane waste of money, time, and resources to do a little bit of elbow rubbing for publicity. This seems like an issue for the state judicial system, but not george f*cking bush. Does the government have nothing better to do than right laws that pertain to only one person? Then there is the baseball issue, but that is for another time.
All and all, if it was me, I would want to die. I would not want the government to stick their nose in it. Let the family figure it out and use a little common sense. She ain't coming out of it, let her pass. If you are the religious type, would you rather be in that state, or in Gods hands. The later sounds better to me.
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Old Mar 25, 2005, 09:41 AM   #12
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Thats the thing bout all this, it always leads bak to wat bout wat the husband did or is doin or wat bout the parents n such, and how they feel, but ya know wat, is it really bout them? she has a right to die, like Jeff says, with dignity, not sum rag doll bein torn between 2 extremes, to tell ya the truth this is really the typ of stiky, synthetic, moral vs. unmoral situation that makes the world such a clusterfunk.

i dunno im done, i could argu 4 ever bout this and have a lil wit sum family, but really, just let go, 4 her sake
yep a wife, kids, 2 million dallors, a big chunk of a life he's now happy, 1/2+ of eveything with goes down the tolite if she ever recoverd enough to be released!

only safe 100% safe way for him to murder her
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Old Mar 25, 2005, 09:54 AM   #13
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Ok everybody is saying he is going to walk away with tons of money, did anybody read the report that majority of the money is actually gone already he only has $50,000 left not $2,000,000 , virtually all the money has been spent on paying the lawyers fighting her parents, he's got nothing to gain financially. And seriously would any of you want to live like a vegtable hooked up to life support with no chance for recovery for the next 50 years, and another is that everybody thinks that she responds to her parents, no shes not her behavior is only like tic electrical response to nothing its random there is nothing there anymore. Its the same as if I put a electrical rod to a dead person they start physically responding the same way.
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Old Mar 25, 2005, 09:59 AM   #14
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theres so many opinions on this we could rage all day long but wat really need to be done is to find ways to make sure other people do not end up in this typ of situation, did any one think bout if this guy had the option to just let her go after he was awarded 2 million dollars?
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Old Mar 25, 2005, 10:02 AM   #15
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Mm... well anyway isn't that why it was placed in the hands of a Judge? I mean it's not as if the judge has any conflict of interests. And whether the husband is a scumbag or not (although I suspect most of you really know very little about him and are probably just making most of it up - or drudging your info out of some cheap nasty tabloid news papers) it still makes very little difference to the question of whether she should be kept alive or not. She has been like this for 9 years. She isn't going to get better. That much is clear. So what is the best decision for her? That should be the only real question here - whether the husband stands to gain or not. You can't potentailly make her suffer, simply because you don't like her husband.

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Old Mar 25, 2005, 10:26 AM   #16
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Let her die. What's hte point of living a life where you aren't living it?
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i dont think the guy is making money off a life insurance policy. Long term care is VERY VERY expensive. The book he writes might make him some loot, but I am sure the guy would trade it all if his wife was never in this situation. The thing people forget is that, its been 15 years. That is a very long time to be without your wife, people change. Its like she is not even there. I don't agree with the talk about him being a bad guy, as the saying goes, "conviction is a luxury of those on the sidelines". Dont forget that.
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(although I suspect most of you really know very little about him and are probably just making most of it up - or drudging your info out of some cheap nasty tabloid news papers)
There you go again, telling us what we know and don't know.. Could set my watch by it.
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But he does sorta have a point... Most of us (except you oh mighty BMX ) are making assumptions from what we have read and heard, not from our OWN knowledge.
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There you go again, telling us what we know and don't know.. Could set my watch by it.
There you go again, trashing threads by posting irrelevant one line comments.

So go on, correct me if you want. Which enlightend and respected information source are you pulling all this stuff from?

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But he does sorta have a point... Most of us (except you oh mighty BMX ) are making assumptions from what we have read and heard, not from our OWN knowledge.
Yes everyone needs to go to the hospital room and interview the family and judges to be able to form an informed opinion..
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There you go again, trashing threads by posting irrelevant one line comments.

So go on, correct me if you want. Which enlightend and respected information source are you pulling all this stuff from?
I would say this is the one line that started the trashing.
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(although I suspect most of you really know very little about him and are probably just making most of it up - or drudging your info out of some cheap nasty tabloid news papers)
I get my info from a wigi board like everyone else.
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Yes everyone needs to go to the hospital room and interview the family and judges to be able to form an informed opinion..
No but it might be useful if you had access to a source of info that did at least some of these.

Clearly you don't.

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