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Old Mar 14, 2005, 09:38 PM   #91
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Good to hear something the Us did wasn't a complete fiasco. Although "The land of the Free" ????!!! C'mon we're no freer than any other country, we're simply unaware of it, thanks to a corporate media and an even greater corporate government.
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Old Mar 15, 2005, 12:08 PM   #92
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nova,never did hate america or any other country,just it way of invading other countrys with out concent,or agreement with nato or un as a moajority,as this was one of the reasions for these two organisations.no country has any right to invade another unless ther is a majority from nato as a whole,because as last step if there is no other way and the majority in nato or un are in agreement,then and only then,as all possible avenues have been tryed.no country is a law on to them selfs.this was not done last time,thats why europe and the world as a whole where againest it and also no evidence ,as we seen nothing was found either,yes saddam needed to taken out,at very high price.no one will see the justification of what was do at high price.in other words .american ways of war and invasion don#t work for the rest of the world.we all love our countrys and the freedom we all have in these countrys,don't have to live in the states to have every thing
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Old Mar 17, 2005, 06:54 AM   #93
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this invasion of Iraq story is getting a little boring now,im part of the 5 second attention span generation, click ....
ive turned over.

it just doesent matter the justification, leaders sell their reasons to the hypnotized masses,
its just more corpses for the pile.

who's caused more people to die,who hides behind legitimacy?who makes the money?if we knew half of how corrupt our world has become we would want to die before we were born.

The reaper turns on his tv and laughs.... MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.I cant wait for the civil war in iraq......
click.
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Old Mar 21, 2005, 01:15 PM   #94
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Originally Posted by [)arkNova
Now that we don't hate America anymore. Let me say that I love this country. The land of the free. A country that will spill blood for itself and other countries to acquire freedom. It is an idea that we all are created equal and all deserve a pursuit of happiness.Many people will disagree with the way we achieve this but we are doing the best we know how. For example,my wife was born and lived in Nicaragua. when she was young,her father was a powerful military commander in a democracy. Then the communist Sandinestas took over and put him in prison for his stand of democracy. My wife had to flee here to save her life because they were killing all relatives to any govt officials.Reagan,through his compashion and strength,helped Nicaragua become a democracy again by helping the freedom fighters win their cause. My wife and all her family love this great nation for the help we gave. Now her father is free from his prison cell and torture. God bless the USA. God bless freedom.
What tosh - and more tosh - and then more tosh again you write.

That version of history is straight out of nothing more than a cheap piece of Fox News propaganda, that you have taken to heart and reprinted here as though it had any validity at all in reality.

I guess sometimes you read something and just aren't sure that it is true. Well, if the article at http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,144636,00.html makes you think of anything but unadulterated bullshit, you apparently haven't a clue about the combined history of Nicaragua and the US.

The intro to this particular story says:

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When Nicaraguan citizens defeated communist comandantes at the ballot box in February 1990, it was the dawn of democracy in a country that had rarely known it and the triumph of elected civilian rule in a region long plagued by dictators.
Now, even if you didn't know much about Nicaragua and were sure the (democratically elected in 1984) Sandinestas were totalitarian godless commies and you had never heard of a Contra and were generally just a grossly uneducated dolt, you would surely know that for over 50 years in the 20th century the dictators that plagued Nicaragua were installed and supported by the U.S. government. How would you know that? Because for the longest time the U.S. government openly bragged about it.

You can try these for a real history lesson too:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22...hl=en&safe=off

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22...hl=en&safe=off

Don't just read the first few links. Try a few out for size. And then come back and tell me again how impressed you are with the US' struggle for freedom and democracy in Nicaragua - and in Central America at large. Not only did your government create a rebel army and an opposition made up of former members of the corrupt and internationally condemned Somoza regime, they deposed and worked to discredit the only democratically elected government that small oppressed nation had had in the last 43 years. Now all the gains made in health, public education, crime fighting and in stamping out corruption due to that election have been eroded - and the economy and the political system are probably just about as corrupt as they had ever been thoughout the worst years of the US/Somoza dynasty.

Is this your best example of what you mean about promoting the cause of freedom and democracy in the world? Because if it is, it's a very piss poor one.

You clearly have much to learn about the history of your own country.

GJ

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Old Mar 21, 2005, 01:43 PM   #95
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the US's political/foreign policy history is despicable, like some old grandma who just can't keep thier fingers out of everyones business, and then gets pissed when people intrude on theirs....
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