Americas fearless leader...

TJ- · Feb 23, 2005, 08:02 PM

This footage, obtained and presented exclusively by The Memory Hole, shows President Bush sitting in a Florida classroom for 5 minutes after he was told that the second Twin Tower has been hit and that America was being attacked. A truncated version of this footage that has been available online since June 2002 shows Bush for only 2 minutes, 10 seconds after being told. This new footage more than doubles this length of time. Immediately below, you'll find still-frames from the video, one every 5 seconds starting when Chief of Staff Andrew Card gives Bush the news and ending when the scene abruptly ends. Below that is a longer introduction and explanation of this footage, including how you can get it yourself.

watch the man himself in action by clicking here

color tags edited out as I couldn't read it

---PJ

Gabriel_Etranil · Feb 23, 2005, 11:08 PM

That is completely incorrect and this shows how easily peaople believe what they are told. The page is implying that the President of the USA should not be in any vacinity of any human being due to the fact that somebody might try to cause him harm.

Five minutes of not panicing about an unknown situation that was not known whether or not "America is under attack", how does this show an incompetent leader(as implied by Bush haters). NOBODY KNEW WHAT HAPPEND WHEN THE FIRST PLANE HIT THE WTC TOWERS! Implying that the President of the United States of America should panic and run around wildly anytime something "bad" happends is ridiculous.

If you want to be "unbiased" and not just a Bush/American hate promoting poster, find and post footage of how Clinton acted in response to the Oklahoma City bombing.

TJ- · Feb 23, 2005, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Gabriel_Etranil

Five minutes of not panicing about an unknown situation that was not known whether or not "America is under attack",

mabye when the first one was hit you would have a valid point. But when the second one was hit and he still sat there... come on now... Plus him and his administration knew that Bin Laden was planning for attacks.

Gabriel_Etranil · Feb 23, 2005, 11:18 PM

What would you expect him to do? If they were going to attack and bomb where he is at it would not matter if he left or not, they would still attack where he was. He didn't panic, I would expect that from a president, and how long do you think it took to secure the area for him to leave? 5 min? Time also flows differently in different situations, what was actually 5 min could have seemed alot less to him at the time. I don't understand why everybody is holding Bush to a higher standard than previous presidents and other world leaders.

TJ- · Feb 23, 2005, 11:31 PM

haha he didnt panic, did you see the look on his face, its priceless, he looks like a embaressed kid that has just been beatin up at school. rofl .... He must have been on that marijuana that he recently admitted to smoking...

If it were me at leats i would have calmy got up and walked out, liasoned with my staff and prepare for a plan of action... but my pet goat seemed more important...

The only reason i made this thread is to show the look on his face to people if they havnt seen it before. IT IS PRICELESS.

Necrosis · Feb 24, 2005, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by battleaxe187

haha he didnt panic, did you see the look on his face, its priceless, he looks like a embaressed kid that has just been beatin up at school. rofl .... He must have been on that marijuana that he recently admitted to smoking...

If it were me at leats i would have calmy got up and walked out, liasoned with my staff and prepare for a plan of action... but my pet goat seemed more important...

The only reason i made this thread is to show the look on his face to people if they havnt seen it before. IT IS PRICELESS.

First off these conspiracy sites are a dime a dozen.

Secondly, you wouldn't do any better. You show the same intelligence that you claim this man has. Two words. "Proof read".

Third, I don't know what is more disturbing your persistent attacks on this guy (guess you have nothing else better to do), or the fact you're actually laughing about people dying.

Falstaff · Feb 24, 2005, 12:46 AM

well put necrosis....
people have consistently underestimated Pres. Bush
Kerry, Bin Laden, France, Russia, Saddam, Kofe Anon, etc, etc.
In terms of powerful accomplishments, Bush stands tall, no president is perfect....
but he sure as hell isnt a worthless fraud like Bill Clinton.

Gabriel_Etranil · Feb 24, 2005, 01:10 AM

Speaking of priceless faces here a pic of Kerry:

But seriously choose an insult possision and stick with it; Bush cannot be a complete idiot and be the evil genius behind the 9/11 attack.

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He must have been on that marijuana that he recently admitted to smoking...[img]images/smilies/smilie.gif[/img]

He didn't inhail though

Falstaff · Feb 24, 2005, 01:13 AM

tis true....
would be just as hard to blame Roosevelt for Pearl Harbor, after coded messages were intercepted by the japanese military...
or Churchill for the bombing of London, even though they had cracked enigma...
If anyone knew about the possible attacks, it was a former FBI man that died during the attacks on the towers, he was the chief of security for the buildings, and actually pursued the terrorists in Somalia after the brutal attack against the US Navy there.

TJ- · Feb 24, 2005, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Gabriel_Etranil

Speaking of priceless faces here a pic of Kerry:

[)arkNova · Feb 24, 2005, 08:26 PM

What did the Pres. suppose to do.Pull a gun out and say where are they?It seems you take great joy in seeing someone dislike death of his fellow Americans.You are a rotten individual. Do you know how evil you seem to be?

Nicky-chan · Feb 28, 2005, 12:22 AM

ROLF, Im not going to say it

Falstaff · Feb 28, 2005, 01:31 AM

now that is healthy debate............................................ .......not

The_Neon_Cowboy · Feb 28, 2005, 05:15 AM

battleaxe187 yours and thier thinking is "flawed"...

Now on to the tearing of this "crap" to shreads

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>>> At 9:03 AM on 11 September 2001, the second airplane hit the South Tower of the World Trade Center. President Bush was in Florida, at the Emma T. Booker Elementary School, listening to children read. Chief of Staff Andrew Card came over and whispered in Bush's ear, "A second plane hit the second tower. America is under attack."

Under attack? Really since when do goverments attack by hijacking planes and flying them into buildings? ... They didn't know what was going on...
Also what was said? it wasn't a full breafing right there in frount of the children just that two planes few into the twin towers.

No bombs, no troops, nothing just a freak occurance....At the time belibe it or not they probubly counlt say with 100% what had happend. For all we knew it could of been a couple suicidal pilots. But the goverment responce after the fact was swift. I rember seeing the 9/11 attacks on the TV's at my job "live". Ther is also an airport naer by with in miles of where I worked at the time. less then an hour from a naval base. A few more to an airforce base etc.... I still remember the rumble of the F16 fighters over head forceing / escorting some smaller planes down when it was delared all planes were to be gruonded

(Reminds me... It's kinda cool used to get f16's least that what I think they are in formation flying verry low...every so often over my parents house, just hapen to be in thier flight path the the polits here some times "fool around" long story especally the appache pilots hover over the lake as the wemen flash thier boobs stuff like that lol)

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What did the Commander in Chief do? Nothing. He sat there. He sat for well over 5 minutes, doing nothing while 3,000 people were dying and the attacks were still in progress.

AS oppsed to what? leap into a time machine? Rip his vest apart to revial the giant red "B" on his chest and blue tights and take of flying into the sky like a super man?

Again WE DIDN"T KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING! But far as we knew What was going to happen WAS ALREADY OVER! No real threat, No numbers on deaths, NO IDEA THE BULDINGS WOULD FALL (coused MOST OF THE LOSS OF LIFE BY FAR) especally not iminent threat to the president or he would of been wisked out of there like his arse was on fire... AGAIN I say I dout he got a full breffing or all the information in frount of him at the time! Like I said before WE DIDN"T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON! Just what had happend... two planes purposly flying into the twin towers...

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Not only did the leader of the free world sit as his country was attacked, the Secret Service also did nothing.

By what country? please tell me the GOVERMENT behind it all?

And where the missles and troops from thier country landed

The secret service? un they don't handle that kind of thing... They handle the presidents security and other legal duties and there WAS NO threat to the presidents safety... Thus no action taken... How does an act or accident for that matter in new york threaten the president immediate safty? rember we had no freaking idea the full context of what was to happen that day...

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Bush was appearing in public at a previously announced photo-op. He was a sitting duck. The attacks were ongoing at that point (planes had yet to hit the Pentagon or the field in Pennsylvania), and nobody knew how much

more destruction was going to happen.

ALSO NO ONE KNEW THAT ANY MORE OR ANYTHING ELSE WOULD OCCUR AT ALL!!! PEOPLE LOOK TO THE PRESIDENT! If he would of reacted an other way you would of seen a MASS PANIC! Little lone tromatiseing little children.. NOTHING, ABOSULTLY NOTHING! Would have occured diffenernlty if he RAN out the room running screming the sky is falling like you guys seem to have wanted him to do... THEY DIDN"T HAVE ALL THE FACTS NOR DID THEY HAVE THIER PHYSIC with them to tell then the future

j/k.

Calm, cool, collective , stead fast is what people seen so that actually kept people a hell of alot calmer then they would of been in a complete panic...

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Were there two, three, four, eight more planes hijacked and on their way to crash into prominent buildings? Was one headed for the school, where anyone who checked the President's public itinerary would know he was located?

Again WE DID NOT HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION NOR DID WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH ANY CERTAINTY EXCPT THAT TWO PLANES FLEW INTO THE TWIN TOWERS AND IT APPERED TO BE ON PUPOSE... THAT ALL WE KNEW

NO , REPEAT NO! TERRORISM INVOLVED AT THIS POINT, THE WORD WASN"T COMEING OUT OF NO BODYS MOUTH WE DIDN"T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON!
IT takes time for information to flow.. and in a situation like this its a total mess... FOR ALL WE KNEW IT COULD OF BEEN A COUPLE SUICIDAL PILOTS...

THERE WAS NO BELIVED THREAT TO THE PRESIDENT AT THE TIME OR HE WOUD OF DID A WHODENI, "POOF" dis-appering act...

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Were other terrorists planning to detonate dirty nukes? Were they going to release anthrax or smallpox or sarin? Was an assassination squad going to burst into the school and get Bush? Was a suicide bomber going to ram a truck full of explosives into that classroom?

AGAIN THE WORD TERROISM WAS BEING TOSSED AROUND YET AND THE ATTACK HAPPEND IN NEW YORK! LAST TIME I CHECKED THAT NO WHERE NEAR FLORDA! WHEN DID TRUCKS THE TRUCK FULL OF BOMBS RUN INTO BULIDINGS AND BLOW UP? WHEN WAS THE WMDS RELEASED? PLEASE LET ME KNOW LINKS PLEASE! WAIT THAT NEVER HAPPENED

I MEAN GET REAL MIGHT AS WELL SAY FOR IF HE KNEW THE WORLD COULD OF RANDOMLY FLUNG OFF IT AXIS AND WHOLE PLANET WAS FLYING INTO THE SUN WHY ARENT WE REACTING sounds stupid doesn't it? Nuts?
well it's rock solid next to this BS...

THEY SEAM TO FORGET THAT THE SECRET SERVICE BEGAIN SECURING AREAS BEFORE HAND UP TO MANY WEEKS! BEFORE HE GOES THERE... AND HE"S UNDER ARMED PROTECTION NOT TO MENTION ARMED POLICE... HE WAS A SAFE AND AS SNUG AS A BUG ON A RUN AS THEY SAY... THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE A VERRY BIG TRUCK TO BLOW UP AN ENTIRE SCHOOL

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During the midst of the attacks, any of these things could've happened.

Yep! they sky could of fell, pigs could of grown wings and flew and (if these people that wrote that knows so much WHY ARENT THEY TELL ME THE LATTO NUMBERS BEFORE THIER DRAWN EVERY WEEK! ) I can garentee they where just as clueless as everyone else at the time...

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Yet there sits Bush, seemingly unconcerned. His Chief of Staff likewise doesn't think that America in flames warrants the President's immediate attention. And the Secret Service utterly fails to do its job by grabbing the President of the United States and getting him to safety. It's truly inexplicable.

AGAIN SOMETHING CALLED MASS PANIC, AND PEOPLE TRIGGER OFF OF PEOPLE LIKE THE PRESIDENT, HE DID EXACTLY THE RIGHT THING

ALSO I SATE AGAIN NO DANGER TO THE PRESIDENT WHAT SO EVER! OR ACTION WOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN..... WE DID NOT HAVE ALL THE INFO AND WHAT WE DID DIDN"T IMPLICATE ANY DANGOR TO THE PRESIDENT. THUS NO ACTION WAS TAKEN...

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Apologists claim that Bush didn't leave simply because he didn't want to interrupt and upset the children, but this falls apart for several reasons:
1) America is being attacked, thousands are dying, and Bush doesn't know if we're facing nuclear, biological, or chemical attacks, as well. Couldn't he just say, "Excuse me, kids, I need to take care of something. It's part of being President, y'understand. I'll be back as soon as I can."

Apologists? you mean realists.... and not just the upset the children the entirety of america... good old osama and alquida would of loved if he had acted they way some people seem to think he should of acted...

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2) At the moment Card told Bush about the second plane, the children weren't reading to Bush. They had finished reading words from an easel and were reaching under their chairs for a book when Card whispered to Bush. Another 30 seconds would elapse before they started reading again. This pause was a perfect time for Bush to politely excuse himself.

Dissapewring act would on been on the news faster then anyhing and there would be panic.. and fear 100X what was allready felt.. Only go know what woud of happend mass panics, people running and stocking up on food an wather, buying guns, people killing each other like crazy.. panic just insights more panic..

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3) By staying, he not only endangered his own life, but the lives of all of those children. Wouldn't it be better to risk upsetting them than to risk letting them die in a terror attack?

NO DANGER TO HIS LIFE, ZERO PERCENT, NO DANGER TO THE CHILDREN AGAIN ZERO PERCENT... Wow he didn't panic when there was no reason to belive he was in any dangor

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4) Even if Bush was afraid of hurting the kiddies' feelings, what about the Secret Service? Have they been trained not to attempt to save the President's life if it might bother some schoolchildren?

Who said bush was afriad or the secrect service was afraid of hurting the kiddies fellings

... THERE WAS NO DANGOR TO THE PRESIDENT OR THE CHILDREN... Safe his life from what ? he wasn't eating pretzels

again lol...

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5) What about Chief of Staff Andrew Card, White House Spokesperson Ari Fleischer, and other officials who were in that classroom? Didn't they feel that a 21st-century Pearl Harbor and a potential attack on the President himself were worth some sort of action?

Asumes they had all the information, asumes they knew the furture, assumes alot... FOR ALL WE KNEW IT WAS JUST TWIN TOWERS... NOTHING ELSE.. NOTHING MORE TO COME... NO REASON WHAT SO EVER, NO THREAT, = NO ACTION...

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6) Finally, and most damningly, this excuse doesn't explain why Bush continued to mill around the classroom for several minutes after the children had finished reading.

A sence of urgency = a panic he panics the entrie country panics...people die, entrie USA goes down the toilette big time..

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Somewhere, someone has the complete, uncut footage of Bush in Booker Elementary, from the time he enters the classroom until he finally walks out. If you have this footage, please send it to me.

I sure with todays video editing skills
some one will whip one up for him right away

maybe CBS and dan rather will air it

too!

I appoligise for that manner this post but this ticks me off
to see complete BS like this.....

TJ- · Feb 28, 2005, 05:43 AM

calm down cowboy...... everything will be ok......

solar_flare · Mar 7, 2005, 09:12 AM

well cowboy.......imagine you're president not bush but just the president........and someone comes up to you and says our country is under attack...are you gonna just sit there and chill or willyou not be worried.....about the lives being lost.

that also some BS about what you said about......not hurting the kids feelings.....i mean....let me just say that i would worried about peoples LIVES then the childrens FEELINGS

stamvas · Mar 13, 2005, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by battleaxe187

haha he didnt panic, did you see the look on his face, its priceless, he looks like a embaressed kid that has just been beatin up at school. rofl .... He must have been on that marijuana that he recently admitted to smoking...

If it were me at leats i would have calmy got up and walked out, liasoned with my staff and prepare for a plan of action... but my pet goat seemed more important...

The only reason i made this thread is to show the look on his face to people if they havnt seen it before. IT IS PRICELESS.

You lie, he did panic. In pic 3'00" he stands up and after a while he sits back again.

swatX · Mar 13, 2005, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by solar_flare

well cowboy.......imagine you're president not bush but just the president........and someone comes up to you and says our country is under attack...are you gonna just sit there and chill or willyou not be worried.....about the lives being lost.

that also some BS about what you said about......not hurting the kids feelings.....i mean....let me just say that i would worried about peoples LIVES then the childrens FEELINGS

you are going to panic but not in a way that will make you look like a fool infront of children..

What WOULD you do? stand up and run around the classroom with a pistol asking where the terrorists are? gheezz put your mind your mouth is!

solar_flare · Mar 15, 2005, 03:35 AM

now thats a stupid thing to say......why would some one produce a pistol and start asking questions........honestly......no one would do that......even if they werent in front of kids......

dude...... think..... atleast for five seconds

TJ- · Mar 15, 2005, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by stamvas

You lie, he did panic. In pic 3'00" he stands up and after a while he sits back again.

i was being sarcastic, if you cant tell then by what i wrote read it again...

Feb 23, 2005, 08:02 PM	#1
TJ- DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Infinity Posts: 3,682 Rep Power: 0	Americas fearless leader... This footage, obtained and presented exclusively by The Memory Hole, shows President Bush sitting in a Florida classroom for 5 minutes after he was told that the second Twin Tower has been hit and that America was being attacked. A truncated version of this footage that has been available online since June 2002 shows Bush for only 2 minutes, 10 seconds after being told. This new footage more than doubles this length of time. Immediately below, you'll find still-frames from the video, one every 5 seconds starting when Chief of Staff Andrew Card gives Bush the news and ending when the scene abruptly ends. Below that is a longer introduction and explanation of this footage, including how you can get it yourself. watch the man himself in action by clicking here color tags edited out as I couldn't read it ---PJ __________________ new sig comming soon Last edited by pr0digal jenius; Feb 23, 2005 at 10:44 PM.

Feb 23, 2005, 11:08 PM	#2
Gabriel_Etranil DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 186 Rep Power: 0	That is completely incorrect and this shows how easily peaople believe what they are told. The page is implying that the President of the USA should not be in any vacinity of any human being due to the fact that somebody might try to cause him harm. Five minutes of not panicing about an unknown situation that was not known whether or not "America is under attack", how does this show an incompetent leader(as implied by Bush haters). NOBODY KNEW WHAT HAPPEND WHEN THE FIRST PLANE HIT THE WTC TOWERS! Implying that the President of the United States of America should panic and run around wildly anytime something "bad" happends is ridiculous. If you want to be "unbiased" and not just a Bush/American hate promoting poster, find and post footage of how Clinton acted in response to the Oklahoma City bombing. __________________ "I want to believe the voice in my head, but it lies"

Feb 23, 2005, 11:18 PM	#4
Gabriel_Etranil DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 186 Rep Power: 0	What would you expect him to do? If they were going to attack and bomb where he is at it would not matter if he left or not, they would still attack where he was. He didn't panic, I would expect that from a president, and how long do you think it took to secure the area for him to leave? 5 min? Time also flows differently in different situations, what was actually 5 min could have seemed alot less to him at the time. I don't understand why everybody is holding Bush to a higher standard than previous presidents and other world leaders. __________________ "I want to believe the voice in my head, but it lies"

Feb 23, 2005, 11:31 PM	#5
TJ- DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Infinity Posts: 3,682 Rep Power: 0	haha he didnt panic, did you see the look on his face, its priceless, he looks like a embaressed kid that has just been beatin up at school. rofl .... He must have been on that marijuana that he recently admitted to smoking... If it were me at leats i would have calmy got up and walked out, liasoned with my staff and prepare for a plan of action... but my pet goat seemed more important... The only reason i made this thread is to show the look on his face to people if they havnt seen it before. IT IS PRICELESS. __________________ new sig comming soon

Feb 24, 2005, 12:46 AM	#7
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 18,145 Rep Power: 131	well put necrosis.... people have consistently underestimated Pres. Bush Kerry, Bin Laden, France, Russia, Saddam, Kofe Anon, etc, etc. In terms of powerful accomplishments, Bush stands tall, no president is perfect.... but he sure as hell isnt a worthless fraud like Bill Clinton. __________________ The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the scythe.

Feb 24, 2005, 01:13 AM	#9
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 18,145 Rep Power: 131	tis true.... would be just as hard to blame Roosevelt for Pearl Harbor, after coded messages were intercepted by the japanese military... or Churchill for the bombing of London, even though they had cracked enigma... If anyone knew about the possible attacks, it was a former FBI man that died during the attacks on the towers, he was the chief of security for the buildings, and actually pursued the terrorists in Somalia after the brutal attack against the US Navy there. __________________ The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the scythe.

Feb 24, 2005, 08:26 PM	#11
[)arkNova DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 99 Rep Power: 0	What did the Pres. suppose to do.Pull a gun out and say where are they?It seems you take great joy in seeing someone dislike death of his fellow Americans.You are a rotten individual. Do you know how evil you seem to be? __________________ [color=blue]Barton 2500 @ 202 X 11 [/color] [color=red]@ 1.675V[/color] [color=deepskyblue]1Gb of 3200 cosair @ 404 [/color] [color=red]@ 2.7V[/color] [color=blue]AN35N Ultra[/color] [color=deepskyblue]9600xt 550/660[/color] [color=blue]Thermaltake pipe 101 @ 42C/31C[/color] [color=red]Fortron 530W[/color]

Feb 28, 2005, 12:22 AM	#12
Nicky-chan formally Elclair Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Arizona,Pheonix Posts: 360 Rep Power: 0	ROLF, Im not going to say it

Feb 28, 2005, 01:31 AM	#13
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 18,145 Rep Power: 131	now that is healthy debate............................................ .......not __________________ The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the scythe.

Feb 28, 2005, 05:43 AM	#15
TJ- DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Infinity Posts: 3,682 Rep Power: 0	calm down cowboy...... everything will be ok...... __________________ new sig comming soon

Mar 7, 2005, 09:12 AM	#16
solar_flare DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 88 Rep Power: 0	well cowboy.......imagine you're president not bush but just the president........and someone comes up to you and says our country is under attack...are you gonna just sit there and chill or willyou not be worried.....about the lives being lost. that also some BS about what you said about......not hurting the kids feelings.....i mean....let me just say that i would worried about peoples LIVES then the childrens FEELINGS __________________ >>sig done by sun_walka

Mar 15, 2005, 03:35 AM	#19
solar_flare DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 88 Rep Power: 0	now thats a stupid thing to say......why would some one produce a pistol and start asking questions........honestly......no one would do that......even if they werent in front of kids...... dude...... think..... atleast for five seconds __________________ >>sig done by sun_walka Last edited by solar_flare; Mar 15, 2005 at 03:44 AM.