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germanjulian

Might be politics but its more funny then anything else:

http://home.earthlink.net/~houval/gopconstrm.mov

dj_stick

very political… and very biased

Nacht

damn QT!

digitalwanderer

Saddam <> Bin Laden

germanjulian

i was laughing

GutterPunk

Lol!

Dom

Moved to Political Debate Forum.

digitalwanderer

OMG, I just watched it...I thought it was bashing the Dems.

Funny stuff, I'm gonna go piss of some more right-wingers with it....

raid517

Anyone not afraid yet?

You will be....

GJ

pr0digal jenius

might be politics...might be funny...but it IS a damned slow server....lol

Vampyromaniac

eh? slow?



should check your connection/route to server, homie

pr0digal jenius

36 kbps is slow......especially as M$ is currently giving up hotfixes as 800 or so

digerati

Ahahahah that was great lol

raid517

Well that in essence is the secret to good politics really. You pick a few good catch phrases and say them over, and over and over again. Eventually if people in an apparent position of authority say a thing often enough, people will begin to believe them no matter how unlikely the premise.

That is why despite there being no evidence whatsoever, 57% of Americans continue to believe that there was some kind of either direct or indirect link between Saddam Hussein and the September 11th attacks.

It might seem very odd to the rest of the world, but the fact is that what many people in America accept as their reality is very different from what we see as ours. That is why when they hear this kind of association (having heard and become accustomed to it so much now) that it seems a lot less controversial to them than it does to us. They have accepted a 'reality' that many of us have long ago rejected. They don't need evidence - and if they do it need only be of the flimsiest most circumstantial kind imaginable - all they need is repetition. Maybe this is because this repetition helps break the world down for them in simple terms that they can understand - who knows? But in American politics (and perhaps in politics in general) if you do not learn this lesson quickly you may soon find yourself in a loosing position.

I don't think Kerry learned this lesson very well at all. The vision of the world he presented was too dynamic, too complex, involved too many possibilities and 'what if's' and contained no where near enough consistent catch phrases for ordinary Americans to latch on to. American politics is now very much dominated by the soundbite, 30 seconds of easy to digest rhetoric now seems like the normal arena in which most important debates take place. Maybe people just don't have the attention span anymore for anything much more substantial. But anyway as someone here has pointed out already recently, debates in American politics really suck ATM.

TV debates, like good documentaries on TV seem to be a thing of the past. No one seems really keen to ask any hard questions any more. But more than this, not many seem very interested in the answers even if they did.

Sadly, I don't understand why that is at all.

GJ

The_Neon_Cowboy

were are all the shots from john kerry. He said the exact same things!!! Were are the democarts shots?

How QUICK people forget

raid517

As ever Neon just misses the point....

GJ

The_Neon_Cowboy

yea but why is john kerry not in the video? this is nothing more then bashing the bush administartion.... no matter what the point...

Dom

Kind of like every other thread in the Poltical Debate Forum that bashes Kerry? You know, the ones you don't abject to.

me.myself.&.ATi

funny...true...& scary...

digitalwanderer

I dunno, mebbe because he wasn't at the GOP convention?


No, this is your favorite political party at their very finest....I'm with John Edwards on this one now:

"I'd say if you live in the United States of America and you vote for George Bush, you've lost your mind."

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm

raid517

Actually it's saying quite a bit more than just bashing Bush. I know you like to reduce everything to very simple terms - and if things don't always go your way it just makes to hug that photo of Bush you must carry arround just that little bit tighter, but although this is funny, it is still saying something quite clever and quite fundamental about the state of American society and culture at this time - and it manages to do it with only a very few words. It's just a pity that these are words who's true implication even you are unable to understand.

It is scary, because it shows with absolute clarity just how easily these guys have worked out a formula to excersise virtual total control over you and American society at large. From now on it is possible to wonder if all speeches should not be written this way - because the rest may only serve to get in the way of the message that this observation reveals to us.

Welcome to America boys - the land of those who are too afraid to be free.

GJ

raid517

On a slightly related note... Does anybody know if there is a large data base anywhere on September 11th and war on terror related quotes? I'd love to be able to search for key phrsases, specific words, videos and so on.

It would be useful for a project I am contemplating if there was.

GJ

Captn

I say if you like communism & junk science, Then vote for Kerry & Edwards.

raid517

And what have they got to do with either of these? Let me warn you you are talking to someone who is very much warmed on the subjects of politics and science - and who believes in both passionately. I assume you are talking as someone who knows very little of either? Everyone is allowed their politics - but in what way do you imagine the democrats are affiliated with the communist party?

GJ

Dom

So if democrats are communsts, republicans must be fascists.

ToshiroOC

And yet again, third parties are the only reasonable people in the whole race

Ev!L-aLphA

funny clip

ROFLOL how arnold pops in!!!

Dom