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Old Sep 17, 2004, 10:05 AM   #1
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Kerry...

Can any one in please help me understand something....

Kerry says: He wants to go out and help other contries develope, to make more competition and open free trade and create jobs in other contries. wich is great for the "world" econamy but means selling things at lower prices, and makeing less money for americans bussinesses. wich mean less jobs, lower pay, more jobs going over seas...

great plan kerry! (source:taken from what he said in an interview)


Kerry says: hes cutting 1,000 goverment contancts, that mean a 1,000 companies will be laying off, fireing, closeing down, lowering wages etc does it not? either way that hurts the economy and jobs
great plan kerry (source: a recent speech)



Kerry says: he's going to work all these wonders wih the econmeny, that he will create 3 million jobs (wich is garenteed even if a monkey was president, with a recovering economy).

great plan kerry!
garentee what's allready garenteed (source:a eariler speech)


Kerry says: he is going to repeail the bush tax cuts. He says the gives tax cut to the rich (small bussinesses owners) .but he forget helps the middle cass and lower class greatly. for me the bush tax cuts means $3000 the goverment pays me back in taxes, as apposed to the less then $900 i get back other wise. I'm not middle class i'm make less then that. the child credits etc will all be gone.... that will hurt the econmony and mean $$$ in the governments pocket. so theres alot raseing taxes right there..

so much for his helping families striggleing with the bills...



some other things

Kerry says: that medicare needs to be incressed and bashes bush yet fails to mention in the senate he voted against the largest medicare benifet increase to date. and was absent at one he supported (wich failed by 1 vote)

he's has all these suposedly wonder full plans but won't go into any detail. why becouse they don't exist. he even has been giveing excuses and refuseing to answer questions after speeches, he's afriad of the answers or that he has none. kerrys and his people are great spinners they can talk for an house and still avaid the orgional question. they like answer the hard questions simply by changeing the topic over and over again....... they have even wen't so far as to take the audio tapes of jernalists took at a speech he made at a collange... so much for free speach
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[COLOR=Red]my turn to use red font[/COLOR]

Can any one in please help me understand something....

[COLOR=Red]certainly![/COLOR]

Kerry says: He wants to go out and help other contries develope, to make more competition and open free trade and create jobs in other contries. wich is great for the "world" econamy but means selling things at lower prices, and makeing less money for americans bussinesses. wich mean less jobs, lower pay, more jobs going over seas...

[COLOR=Red]encouraging free trade in other countries will lower the cost of their goods, thus making what we import cheaper and boosting our economy as ti won't decrease our export rates(might lower prices a little, but nto much) but will decrease our cost of imports[/COLOR]

great plan kerry! (source:taken from what he said in an interview)


Kerry says: hes cutting 1,000 goverment contancts, that mean a 1,000 companies will be laying off, fireing, closeing down, lowering wages etc does it not? either way that hurts the economy and jobs
great plan kerry (source: a recent speech)

[COLOR=Red]contancts = contracts? if not lemme know and i'll re-rebuke the arguement properly. Anyways, decreasing government spending will make current revenues go farther and thus make not raising, and possibly even lowering taxes(corporate and private) possible without hurting the budget(something bush is good at ) and if taxes go down for corporatiosn then there is no need to lower wages even if revenues drop slightly[/COLOR]



Kerry says: he's going to work all these wonders wih the econmeny, that he will create 3 million jobs (wich is garenteed even if a monkey was president, with a recovering economy).

[COLOR=Red]better then bush, who took a booming economy and ran it headlong into the dirt[/COLOR]

great plan kerry!
garentee what's allready garenteed (source:a eariler speech)


Kerry says: he is going to repeail the bush tax cuts. He says the gives tax cut to the rich (small bussinesses owners) .but he forget helps the middle cass and lower class greatly. for me the bush tax cuts means $3000 the goverment pays me back in taxes, as apposed to the less then $900 i get back other wise. I'm not middle class i'm make less then that. the child credits etc will all be gone.... that will hurt the econmony and mean $$$ in the governments pocket. so theres alot raseing taxes right there..

so much for his helping families striggleing with the bills...

[COLOR=Red]again...bush took our economy and sodomized it by increasing spending while lowering revenue...that is an economically unfeasbale scenario, thus revenue must either be increased, or spending decreased, or mroe then likely, some of both.[/COLOR]

some other things

Kerry says: that medicare needs to be incressed and bashes bush yet fails to mention in the senate he voted against the largest medicare benifet increase to date. and was absent at one he supported (wich failed by 1 vote)

he's has all these suposedly wonder full plans but won't go into any detail. why becouse they don't exist. he even has been giveing excuses and refuseing to answer questions after speeches, he's afriad of the answers or that he has none. kerrys and his people are great spinners they can talk for an house and still avaid the orgional question. they like answer the hard questions simply by changeing the topic over and over again....... they have even wen't so far as to take the audio tapes of jernalists took at a speech he made at a collange... so much for free speach


[COLOR=Red]i never said the man was great..he's a politician, coniving is his way. in that sense he may be no better then Bush, but I also think it's hard to get too much worse then Bush [/COLOR]
ok...i'm done
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Kerry isn't Bush, that's enough to get the man my vote.
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Old Sep 17, 2004, 11:30 AM   #4
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bush took our economy and sodomized it [...]
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Old Sep 17, 2004, 03:04 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by The_Neon_Cowboy
[color=red]my turn to use red font[/color] [color=lime]Thats ok i'll use green [/color]

Can any one in please help me understand something....

[color=red]certainly! [/color][color=lime]cool![/color]

Kerry says: He wants to go out and help other contries develope, to make more competition and open free trade and create jobs in other contries. wich is great for the "world" econamy but means selling things at lower prices, and makeing less money for americans bussinesses. wich mean less jobs, lower pay, more jobs going over seas...

[color=red]encouraging free trade in other countries will lower the cost of their goods, thus making what we import cheaper and boosting our economy as ti won't decrease our export rates(might lower prices a little, but nto much) but will decrease our cost of imports[/color]
[color=lime]But he wants to increse compteition with out side countries. For example the us companies and the new kerry helped foriegn companies compete for contracts. The usa companies will lose contacts they would have gotten. so the price of our export goods will have to go down to mantain compeitition or the us companies will magorly loose out.[/color]


great plan kerry! (source:taken from what he said in an interview)


Kerry says: hes cutting 1,000 goverment contracts, that mean a 1,000 companies will be laying off, fireing, closeing down, lowering wages etc does it not? either way that hurts the economy and jobs
great plan kerry (source: a recent speech)

[color=red]contancts = contracts? if not lemme know and i'll re-rebuke the arguement properly. Anyways, decreasing government spending will make current revenues go farther and thus make not raising, and possibly even lowering taxes(corporate and private) possible without hurting the budget(something bush is good at ) and if taxes go down for corporatiosn then there is no need to lower wages even if revenues drop slightly.[/color]
[color=lime]But most of those companies hevely rely on thouse governmemt contracts. There are even airlines tha are kept a flaot that would fold under with out government help (greanteed this is one kerry is cutting it was mentioned). remeber clintions privitisation of jobs? well those are contacted labor those will get too. Those contracts are there becouseing is needed so the leighbor etc will have to be done. Guess it's time for more goverment employee's and bigger government.[/color]

[color=#00ff00]so a company that rellies 30%,40%,60%,80% on big gornenment contracts will fold like a card house. I garentee you with out those contacts those companies will struggle and that they will no loger need nerly as many people.[/color]
Kerry says: he's going to work all these wonders wih the econmeny, that he will create 3 million jobs (wich is garenteed even if a monkey was president, with a recovering economy).

[color=red]better then bush, who took a booming economy and ran it headlong into the dirt[/color]
[color=lime]You try sliping a ressision, it wasn't blooming, then we had sept 11th and the economy took a dump an still hasn't fully recoverd. The market hough spurtaic is like a large latto machine. I've turned $200 profit out of a $30 investment. I've lost $10 on a $20 investment non the less you play your cards right and do your homework you can make a bundle.[/color]


great plan kerry!
garentee what's allready garenteed (source:a eariler speech)


Kerry says: he is going to repeail the bush tax cuts. He says the gives tax cut to the rich (small bussinesses owners) .but he forget helps the middle cass and lower class greatly. for me the bush tax cuts means $3000 the goverment pays me back in taxes, as apposed to the less then $900 i get back other wise. I'm not middle class i'm make less then that. the child credits etc will all be gone.... that will hurt the econmony and mean $$$ in the governments pocket. so theres alot raseing taxes right there..

so much for his helping families striggleing with the bills...

[color=red]again...bush took our economy and sodomized it by increasing spending while lowering revenue...that is an economically unfeasbale scenario, thus revenue must either be increased, or spending decreased, or mroe then likely, some of both.[/color]
[color=lime]Acutaully they saved a lot the ferdral gov. stoped helping the states meet ends. Left them to fend for them selfs more. I'd rather my meney be in my pocket then in some buracrats. or to help fund his vacation. or in jhon kerrys case, he gets paid 100% he's absent 75% of his time.[/color]

some other things

Kerry says: that medicare needs to be incressed and bashes bush yet fails to mention in the senate he voted against the largest medicare benifet increase to date. and was absent at one he supported (wich failed by 1 vote)

he's has all these suposedly wonder full plans but won't go into any detail. why becouse they don't exist. he even has been giveing excuses and refuseing to answer questions after speeches, he's afriad of the answers or that he has none. kerrys and his people are great spinners they can talk for an house and still avaid the orgional question. they like answer the hard questions simply by changeing the topic over and over again....... they have even wen't so far as to take the audio tapes of jernalists took at a speech he made at a collange... so much for free speach


[color=red]i never said the man was great..he's a politician, coniving is his way. in that sense he may be no better then Bush, but I also think it's hard to get too much worse then Bush [/color]

[color=lime]I agree bush sucks but kerrys "plans" sound like we all going to bend over and pick up the soap for 4 years. Kerry's stance blows with the wind. he's for it and against it on every single issue! Add his lack of backbone and takeing a stance to the swifty's account of him. Add to thats what he sauid before the senate about vietnam. add to that his (when he got back) secret meeting with forgein leaders we were at war with (vietnam). add to that his claim that he's "wanted" or secretly endorsed in some way by forign leaders, his connections to france, and his plan to open the iraq contants up to contries that should never profit 1 cent form this considering they fought us in the un. Easpecally as they wer just protecting thier own intersts and payoffs. [/color]
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Interesting comment Digital...

I guess that since they aren't Dubya, that you'd also vote for the likes of:

Pol Pot, Stalin, Sadam Hussain, Castro, or Mao ?

I find it interesting that folks like you make those statements, yet never seem to come up with a reason to vote FOR Kerry. All i see is you want to vote against Bush. Be careful, sometimes it's not a good idea to get what you wish for.
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Interesting comment Digital...

I guess that since they aren't Dubya, that you'd also vote for the likes of:

Pol Pot, Stalin, Sadam Hussain, Castro, or Mao ?

I find it interesting that folks like you make those statements, yet never seem to come up with a reason to vote FOR Kerry. All i see is you want to vote against Bush. Be careful, sometimes it's not a good idea to get what you wish for.
I don't think/feel/believe Kerry could possibly do worse by our country than Emperor George has if he tried his damndest to, I really don't.

I stand by my words.
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"Emperor George" hahahahaha...thats great


and neon...don't even start talking about the iraqi war from a capitalistic standpoint...that'll onyl backfire on you and yer pro-bush standpoint and you know it
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Bush has been great for the enconomy. Which is why we have the worse one since the great depression. It's also why American jobs are being out sourced to third world countries like India.
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Bush has been great for the enconomy. Which is why we have the worse one since the great depression. It's also why American jobs are being out sourced to third world countries like India.
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Bush has been great for the enconomy. Which is why we have the worse one since the great depression. It's also why American jobs are being out sourced to third world countries like India.


You had me going for a second there when you said, "Bush has been great for the economy"!
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"Emperor George" hahahahaha...thats great


and neon...don't even start talking about the iraqi war from a capitalistic standpoint...that'll onyl backfire on you and yer pro-bush standpoint and you know it
I guess if you want to vote for a man who committed treason sure, Kerry should be in jail for all the atrocities he admits to doing!
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I guess if you want to vote for a man who committed treason sure, Kerry should be in jail for all the atrocities he admits to doing!
So should Bush for doing nothing to stop 9/11 and taking the FBI off al Quaeda's trail.
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I guess if you want to vote for a man who committed treason sure, Kerry should be in jail for all the atrocities he admits to doing!
And leading our country into war under false pretenses should just be considered an "oops" I 'spose?
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And leading our country into war under false pretenses should just be considered an "oops" I 'spose?
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So should Bush for doing nothing to stop 9/11 and taking the FBI off al Quaeda's trail.
You can thank uncle Bill Clinton for that taking place, Please tell me you're not that stupid!
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You can thank uncle Bill Clinton for that taking place, Please tell me you're not that stupid!
Bush didn't take the FBI of bin Laden's trail...sure... I don't what you think bringing up Clinton is supposed to do.

And settle down with the personal insults.
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Bush didn't take the FBI of bin Laden's trail...sure... I don't what you think bringing up Clinton is supposed to do.
Clinton could have taken him out TWICE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! w0w! Liberalism leads to Socialism which leads to communism, Remember that when you got vote for Kerry you Kool-Aid drinker...LMFAO. Maybe when you get a little older you might understand the world a little better.
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Clinton could have taken him out TWICE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! w0w! Liberalism leads to Socialism which leads to communism, Remember that when you got vote for Kerry you Kool-Aid drinker...LMFAO. Maybe when you get a little older you might understand the world a little better.
LOL, wow! Unsophisticated insults!

Doesn't America like Communism? Isn't that why we're such good friends with China and our products are made there?

And you're right he could of taken him out. I told you I don't know why you bring Clinton up. He was no better than Bush, except economy wise.

One more thing, stop with the insults. Last warning.
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One more thing, stop with the insults. Last warning.

HAHA !! Dont threaten me, If it makes you feel stronger by banning me then do what you need to, I can also start another membership if you choose to do so there are many options I can go with but its up to you. Wait maybe you'll go crying to the ACLU...LOL
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HAHA !! Dont threaten me, If it makes you feel stronger by banning me then do what you need to, I can also start another membership if you choose to do so there are many options I can go with but its up to you. Wait maybe you'll go crying to the ACLU...LOL
As you wish.
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As you wish.
We all saw that coming. I'll watch for new accounts
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