reasons not to re-elect Bush

drakesteakn · Sep 16, 2004, 09:22 PM

>Things you have to believe to be a Republican today:

>

>Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's

>daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him

>and a bad guy when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden"

>diversion.

>

>Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is communist, but trade

>with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international

>harmony.

>

>The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our

>highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against

>Iraq.

>

>A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but

>multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind

>without regulation.

>

>Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals

>and Hillary Clinton.

>

>The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in

>speeches while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.

>

>If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't

>have sex.

>

>A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our

>long-time allies, then demand their cooperation and

>money.

>

>Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy.

>Providing health care to all Americans is socialism.

>

>HMOs and insurance companies have the best interests

>of the public at heart.

>

>Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk

>science, but creationism should be taught in schools.

>

>A president lying about an extramarital affair is an

>impeachable offense. A president lying to enlist

>support for a war in which thousands die is solid

>defense policy.

>

>Government should limit itself to the powers named in

>the Constitution, which include banning gay marriages

>and censoring the Internet.

>

>The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle

>trades, but George Bush's driving record is none of

>our business.

>

>Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime,

>unless you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an

>illness, and you need our prayers for your recovery.

>

>You support states' rights, which means Attorney

>General John Ashcroft can tell states what local voter

>initiatives they have the right to adopt.

>

>What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital

>national interest, but what Bush did in the '80s is

>irrelevant.

Dom · Sep 16, 2004, 09:25 PM

digerati · Sep 16, 2004, 09:26 PM

I'm sorry, this is crap lol

Dom · Sep 16, 2004, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ^_^

I'm sorry, this is crap lol

Why?

drakesteakn · Sep 16, 2004, 09:54 PM

its just funny

Nacht · Sep 16, 2004, 09:57 PM

it is crap. i could go down the list and put my opinions about each one...say why its false/why i dont believe it, and ill still tell you im a proud republican.

Dom · Sep 16, 2004, 09:59 PM

The fact that Bush wants to ban gay marriage is false?

drakesteakn · Sep 16, 2004, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nacht

it is crap. i could go down the list and put my opinions about each one...say why its false/why i dont believe it, and ill still tell you im a proud republican.

go ahead start on the list, i'm waiting.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Sep 16, 2004, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drakesteakn

>Things you have to believe to be a Republican today:

>

>Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's
THE ENEMY OF MY ENEMY IS MY FRIEND, EVER HERD THAT PHRASE?

>daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him
DEFINE WHAT YOU MEAN BY BUSSINESS?

>and a bad guy when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden"
HE'S ALLWAYS BEEN A BAD GUY, WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD SEE "THE ENEMY OF MY ENEMY IS MY FRIEND" AND "THE FRIEND OF MY ENEMY IS MY ENEMY"

>

>

>Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is communist, but trade
>with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international
>harmony.

FOR 1 CASTRO, FOR VIET NAMES SOLE BUSSINESS AND ENCONMOICS IS BASED AROUND THE MILLITARY AND WEAPONS (MAKEING AND SALES) WE NEED TO GET THEM AN OPTIN OR THIER GOV WILL COLLAPSE ON THEM SELFS PLUS WE NEED A WROKING RELATIONSHIP TO EASE TENTIONS OVER THIER WANTING TO SEEK TO MAKE NUKES

>

>The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our
>highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against
>Iraq.

I GUESS TO BE A DEMOCRAT THEN YOU MUST BELIVE THAT IF THE CORRUPT $$$ UN DOESNT GIVE YOU PERMISSION THEN YOU CAN'T PROTECT YOUR SELFS? WHY WOULD WE BOTHER? COSINDERING PEOPLE WITH HIGH STAKES IN IRAQ OIL AND A OIL FOR FOOSD SCAM FUNNELING MILLIONS ILLEGALLY. THEY HAD A NICE LITTLE HUNNY POT THERE. GARENTEEING THEY WOULD VETO ANY RESOULTION. DON'T FOGET WERE THE REASON THE U.N IS THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE... WHAT A GEAT UN IRAQ IS ON THE DISARMORMENT COMETEE AND LIBIA ON HUMAN RIGHTS
>

>A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but
>multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind
>without regulation.

wtf?

>

>Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals
>and Hillary Clinton.

YOU FOR GOT BILL, SINCE THEY'VE BEEN OUT OF OFFICE THIER MOUTHS HAVN'T STOPPED FLAPPIN, #2 READ THE BIBLE SOMETIME

>

>The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in
>speeches while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.

THE GOVERNMENT IS LIKE A BUSSINESS, AIRLINES ETC... DO THE SAME THING BECOUSE THE EXPENSES ESPECALLY WITH PEOPLE LIKE JHON KERRY crying about this $$$$

>If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't
>have sex.

? NO THEY WILL HAVE SEX BUT PUTTING CONDOMS THERE FREE PROMOTES SEX, HELL YOU MIGHT AS WELL HAVE ORGY ROOMS TOO,,,,

>

>A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our
>long-time allies, then demand their cooperation and
>money.

HMMM HOWS THAT? IRAQ AGAIN? ARE YOU TALKING THE FRENCH, GERMANS, AND RUSSIANS? IT WAS THEY WHO SPAT IN OUR FACE...

>

>Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy.
>Providing health care to all Americans is socialism.

WHAT?
#2 AGAIN WHAT? WE HAVE BILLS GO THROUGH THE HOUSE AMERICANS WHAT FREE HEATH CARE BUT WHAT TO PAY $0 FOR IT

>

>HMOs and insurance companies have the best interests
>of the public at heart.

ROFL, THIER POCKETS, THE SYSTEM SUCKS BUT IT WRKS TO AN EXTENT AND WHAT WE HAVE

>

>Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk
>science, but creationism should be taught in schools.

HMM.. IF THEY SAY THE TOBACCO CASUSES CANCER = THEN THEY HAVE TO BAN IT, THEN THEY HAVE TO ENFORCE IT. NOT TO MENTION THE BILLIONS THE GOVERMENT WILL LOSE FROM TAXES ON IT.

CREATINISM NO, THE RUNNING AROUND AND REMOVEING ALL RELGIOUS SYMBOLS FROM THE PUBLIC BUILDINGS, CRESTS ETC... IS BAD THOUGH. THE CONSTSUTION WAS BASED ON RELEGIOUS BELIVES! THERE FOR SOM IS THE FOUNDADTION OF THE GOVERNMENT.

>

>A president lying about an extramarital affair is an
>impeachable offense.

clintion lied an it not the first time, suposadly not the first affair either, he used 3 million tax payer dallors to help fund his run for office, he was even accused of rape, connections to wite watter and organised crime , attend parties were drigs and sex with minors was present and if you wactched "the clintion cronicals" you'd know that.

i bet you guys belived every word of farenhight 9/11. lies deceptions and all...

A president lying to enlist
>support for a war in which thousands die is solid
>defense policy.

thousnands? you mean 1,000 so for or iraq or afgansitan? becouse theat a connected but seprate war.

>

>Government should limit itself to the powers named in
>the Constitution, which include banning gay marriages
>and censoring the Internet.

well i guess you must belive in higher taxes, and condoneing even promating gay marrange then. maybe gay should be a part of sex ed then huh?how can they be married in a relegion were being gay is a deadly sin? But i bet you support the ILLEGAL gay marrages in calafornia etc then huh... even though the state's mass magoitry people voted at the polls in the past againt allowing it/banning it with it was banned...you must also belive in one state's judge (as in one man) being able to make fedral law and laws for all 50 states...becouse thats whats happeing...

>

>The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle
>trades, but George Bush's driving record is none of
>our business.

?

>

>Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime,
>unless you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an
>illness, and you need our prayers for your recovery.

what people are given a chance to get help ever herd of reablitation? no one docks you if you seek help, getting busted is another matter, possesio is another matter, same with selling etc...

>

>You support states' rights, which means Attorney
General John Ashcroft can tell states what local voter
>initiatives they have the right to adopt.

?

>

>What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital
>national interest, but what Bush did in the '80s is
>irrelevant.

...

Dom · Sep 16, 2004, 10:05 PM

Oh, God, Neon. Thank God you aren't running for President (or any office for that matter).

The_Neon_Cowboy · Sep 16, 2004, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dom

The fact that Bush wants to ban gay marriage is false?

nope thats true... and it should be put to a vote ....

the ability for one state to set the laws for all 50 states is unjust.

there are even some gays against gay marrage

they 99.9% of them are not after the titles married huband wife what ever they are afater the $$$ benifits and the $$$ aid, soclial securty benifits , death benifits etc.... nothing more

they already have civil unions

allowing garentees higher taxes and greather srain on solical securty

allwing it mean they condone it and they mucghjt as well promote it

drakesteakn · Sep 16, 2004, 10:16 PM

Quote:

and a bad guy when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden"
HE'S ALLWAYS BEEN A BAD GUY, WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD SEE "THE ENEMY OF MY ENEMY IS MY FRIEND" AND "THE FRIEND OF MY ENEMY IS MY ENEMY"

this is false, he was fighting for freedom from Russia in afganistan when he was young. he actually had freedom in mind before he lost interest when he had nobody to fight.

Quote:

The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our
>highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against
>Iraq.

I GUESS TO BE A DEMOCRAT THEN YOU MUST BELIVE THAT IF THE CORRUPT $$ UN DOESNT GIVE YOU PERMISSION THEN YOU CAN'T PROTECT YOUR SELFS? WHY WOULD WE BOTHER? COSINDERING PEOPLE WITH HIGH STAKES IN IRAQ OIL AND A OIL FOR FOOSD SCAM FUNNELING MILLIONS ILLEGALLY. THEY HAD A NICE LITTLE HUNNY POT THERE. GARENTEEING THEY WOULD VETO ANY RESOULTION. DON'T FOGET WERE THE REASON THE U.N IS THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE... WHAT A GEAT UN IRAQ IS ON THE DISARMORMENT COMETEE AND LIBIA ON HUMAN RIGHTS

we make up the money that runs the UN. so does that mean we get money back from Oil for Food? so are we corrupt and making money somewhere? YES!!! we are.

Quote:

>A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but
>multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind
>without regulation.

wtf?

they mean obortion(probably spelled it wrong.)

Quote:

>Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals
>and Hillary Clinton.

YOU FOR GOT BILL, SINCE THEY'VE BEEN OUT OF OFFICE THIER MOUTHS HAVN'T STOPPED FLAPPIN, #2 READ THE BIBLE SOMETIME

just sounds like a excuse to me neon

that should keep u busy till i finish

Dom · Sep 16, 2004, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Neon_Cowboy

nope thats true... and it should be put to a vote ....

the ability for one state to set the laws for all 50 states is unjust.

there are even some gays against gay marrage

they 99.9% of them are not after the titles married huband wife what ever they are afater the $$$ benifits and the $$$ aid, soclial securty benifits , death benifits etc.... nothing more

they already have civil unions

allowing garentees higher taxes and greather srain on solical securty

allwing it mean they condone it and they mucghjt as well promote it

More women marry men for benefits than gays marry each other for them. I suppose you would also think that the victim's familes of 9/11 are also after money.

The fact is that if two people love each other and devote their lives to each other, as a woman and man would, then they should be allowed to marry and collect benefits. Without those important benefits ANYONE whose spouse dies, etc., would be ruinned.

Banning gay marriage for any reason would be unconstitutional.

pr0digal jenius · Sep 16, 2004, 10:51 PM

neon...i'm starting to think you'd vote for bush over Jesus if you had the opportunity

ToshiroOC · Sep 17, 2004, 02:35 AM

Lets not attack individual posters, ok? Prove him wrong if you disagree, but its his stance that you take issue with, not the person, right?

digerati · Sep 17, 2004, 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dom

Banning gay marriage for any reason would be unconstitutional.

Agreed. It's the state's choice. I personally don't agree with the idea of calling it marriage, that's totally stretching a word for your own view. But I can't say that they shouldn't be allowed the legal benefits, nor can I say that they shouldn't be called a family.

Dom · Sep 17, 2004, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ^_^

Agreed. It's the state's choice. I personally don't agree with the idea of calling it marriage, that's totally stretching a word for your own view. But I can't say that they shouldn't be allowed the legal benefits, nor can I say that they shouldn't be called a family.

Hey! Me and you finally agree on something!

digerati · Sep 17, 2004, 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dom

Oh, God, Neon. Thank God you aren't running for President (or any office for that matter).

I also agree with that. I think Neon represents the mindset of the South very well

OldBuzzard · Sep 17, 2004, 03:05 AM

"The mindset of the south"?!? I take it that you are ignorant of the Red State/Blue State maps.

BWX · Sep 17, 2004, 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dom

Oh, God, Neon. Thank God you aren't running for President (or any office for that matter).

He would make a better president than Kerry. At least Neon isn't a two faced liar that changes his story every 5 seconds.. You know I'm right!

Dom · Sep 17, 2004, 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWX

He would make a better president than Kerry. At least Neon isn't a two faced liar that changes his story every 5 seconds.. You know I'm right!

No, you're not right, but that's not the point. I was joking with Neon.

digerati · Sep 17, 2004, 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldBuzzard

"The mindset of the south"?!? I take it that you are ignorant of the Red State/Blue State maps.

Last time I checked those electoral votes went to Bush in the last election.

pr0digal jenius · Sep 17, 2004, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToshiroOC

Lets not attack individual posters, ok? Prove him wrong if you disagree, but its his stance that you take issue with, not the person, right?

i'm not attackign him, i'm simply saying he often appears to ardently and blindly be defending bush against all odds and calling anythign anti-bush 'biased' or 'un-american' or 'one side of the story'...which seems to me to be the political equivalent of a kamikazi

i feel that compeltely and unwaiveringly standing by anything is wrong. If someone can show you a valid flaw with your beliefs, perhaps they ARE right? No one political entity, be it candidate, party, or otherwise, is worth devout affiliation with, nor have they done anythign deserving of such.

Closed mindedness and political complacency scares me far more then any candidate does. The idea of a republic is that when we disagree with someone we can change it, or atleast change them and find someone we disagree with less, NOT build unwaivering allegiances with people like Mr. Dubya and then go around hackign and slashing at everyone else who has a different opinion. Fanaticism is the bane of our society

And now I feel the sudden urge to define the 'liberty' (notice it's liberty, and not 'freedom') we are granted via the constitution. Liberty is freedom that is dictated by and within the bounds of reason and common sense. It is a guaged freedom that CAN NOT impede with other's abilities to enjoy the same liberty. This and this alone are why I personally am not going to vote for Mr. Bush come november. He has taken much 'liberty' in monkeying with the economy, and far to many 'liberties' in marching our army into other people's backyards and making a fool of himself and our national image as a whole. It's time we give someone else a chance...Bush had his.

*grabs a coke and some lucky charms and goes back to bed*

The_Neon_Cowboy · Sep 17, 2004, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drakesteakn

this is false, he was fighting for freedom from Russia in afganistan when he was young. he actually had freedom in mind before he lost interest when he had nobody to fight.

Reagardless the man is a loon now

we make up the money that runs the UN. so does that mean we get money back from Oil for Food? so are we corrupt and