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Sep 2, 2004, 03:34 PM
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More 9-11 conspiracy fun... Ne1...lol
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Sep 2, 2004, 03:46 PM
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Nice find.
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Sep 2, 2004, 04:07 PM
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VETUS INFLATIO
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ah geez...as if it has been distorted enough...
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Sep 2, 2004, 04:17 PM
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I = Greatest Dood
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questionable... very good tho!
information is substantial but yea...
i dunno i take this in tho for now untill i see other proof
you didn't see the pentagon get struck over and over like you did the WTC... things fall together haha
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Sep 2, 2004, 05:42 PM
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Delete Me
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i've always wondered why they insisted on sayign a plane hit it...it seems obvious to me it was NOT a plane
it's nto like it woudl scare people anymore to know it was either a small 1 man craft or a missile.
I personalyl would feel safer knwoign they coudl launch missiles thens teal the planes I ride in(i fly atleast once a year)
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Sep 2, 2004, 05:52 PM
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.:z0diac Knight:.
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This is very old news......
If you really want a fully detailed explantion with images etc....
follow this link: http://thebiggestsecretpict.online.fr/nwo.htm
& scroll to about halfway the page.....
you will also find lots of information & resources about free masonry as well...
enjoy 
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Sep 2, 2004, 06:18 PM
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ein Krieger
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hahah....lord
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Sep 2, 2004, 09:09 PM
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VETUS INFLATIO
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ugggh its getting pretty deep in here......thank god I wore my waders..lol
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Sep 2, 2004, 09:16 PM
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ein Krieger
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you people will believe anything, i swear!
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Sep 2, 2004, 10:06 PM
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A missle? From what? And why would their be pieces of plane everywhere? Aren't planes mostly made from aluminum since it's lightweight and holds together just fine under heavy air pressure? Aluminum cans will melt/evaporate in the coals of a simple bonfire. Imagine two mostly aluminum wings chock full of high octane jet fuel exploding in a relatively small, confined area (inside the concrete/steel reinforced pentagon). It's hard for me to imagine as I have nothing to base it on.
On a related note, has anyone else seen the spontaneous combustion theories proven on the discovery channel? A sudden build up of intense heat in a small confined channel would roast someone alive, under those extreme conditions of course. One story they gave was an old woman who fell asleep in front of the fireplace covered with a small blanket. The sudden rush of heat while she was sleeping roasted all of her body except her legs beneath the blanket and one arm dangling from the side of the chair. Her granddaughter found the pieces and scorch marks on the floor, every thing else was fine.
Please understand, conspiracy theorists, that we humans are still very far from fully understanding our universe. Keep your minds open
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Sep 3, 2004, 04:04 AM
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'42'
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OMG too good!
Just got it from my cousin recently and thought sum peeps might like a laugh...
but nice one about the chemtrails.... gonna have to buy a chemtrails buster now... bwahahaha
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Originally Posted by me.myself.&.ATi
This is very old news......
If you really want a fully detailed explantion with images etc....
follow this link: http://thebiggestsecretpict.online.fr/nwo.htm
& scroll to about halfway the page.....
you will also find lots of information & resources about free masonry as well...
enjoy 
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Sep 3, 2004, 04:24 AM
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DH's Latest Mac Convert
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but what did happen to the plane they said hit the pentagon?
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Sep 3, 2004, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Nacht
you people will believe anything, i swear!
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No, we won't believe anything nor will we believe everything the Government tells us.
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Sep 3, 2004, 11:31 AM
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Delete Me
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Originally Posted by Dom
No, we won't believe anything nor will we believe everything the Government tells us.
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bingo
also as per these 'missile pods' it seems an airport security camera could easily debunk those theories...and if it's NOT true, why hasn't the government released those images?
Also, last i checked, jet fuel was extremely fast/clean burning.....so why on earth did the towers have so much fire when it blew up?
more pentagon goodies:
Strong Shockwave
Several witnesses described a shockwave that knocked them to the ground, both inside and outside the building. Several described it as a concussion. Such a shockwave cannot be explained by the combustion of jet fuel, and indicates the detonation of an explosive. Explosive detonations produce blast pressures thousands of times stronger than hydrocarbon fireballs because explosives are oxidized by chemicals intrinsic to them whereas hydrocarbons rely on oxygen in ambient air for combustion. Consequently the chemical reaction proceeds at a much higher rate in an explosive.
Hydrocarbon fireballs can produce detonation waves if the fuel and air are mixed prior to ignition, but such detonation waves are comparatively weak. The violence of most plane crashes precludes such pre-mixing. In the Twin Tower jet collisions, the columns of the curtain walls diced the fuel tanks in the wings, assuring fuel and air mixing about as optimally as could be imagined in a collision, and yet there were no reports of detonation shockwaves.
Cordite
Cordite is an explosive compound used in aircraft gun ammunition. Several witnesses with the benefit of military experience recognized the smell of this compound. Cordite N consists of three main explosive compounds: nitroguanidine, nitrocellulose, and nitroglycerin. It is cool-burning, and produces little smoke and no flash, but, like other explosives, produces a strong detonation wave.
Silvery Flash
Several witnesses described seeing a bright or silvery flash. This is also inconsistent with jet fuel combustion, which produces a fireball whose color is at brightest yellow, not white or silver. This flash must have been produced by some means other than a cordite explosion, whose detonation is notably free of a flash.
Source: http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon...html#shockwave
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Sep 3, 2004, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius
also as per these 'missile pods' it seems an airport security camera could easily debunk those theories...and if it's NOT true, why hasn't the government released those images?
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There's also a theory that the planes were switched, so the planes that hit the WTCs weren't necessarily the ones that took off from the airports. It's interesting to think, if those were not the same planes, where'd the other ones go? That's mostly speculation, although there is some evidence of initial explosion right before the planes made contact.
Many of the victim's families believe there was Government involvement in the 9/11 attacks. And many firefighters who were at ground zero before, during, and after the buildings' collapse swear they heard "bombs going off".
But, of course, who are they...what do they know? Afterall, they're just average people. Average people whom lost family and friends in the worst terrorist attack on America ever. They're just people who thought nothing of going into two 110 story buildings that were on fire from thousands of gallons of jet fuel...people whom thought nothing of risking their lives. Their opinions obviously mean nothing.
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Sep 3, 2004, 11:48 AM
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.:z0diac Knight:.
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Hunh???
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Sep 3, 2004, 12:18 PM
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Very insteresting....... 
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Sep 3, 2004, 12:52 PM
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http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon...html#shockwave
that's also great site! btw....
Nobody else going out to immediatly buy a or build their own Chemtrails Buster.... muhahahaha..... rofl....
and yes, couldn't agree more Dom...
Originally Posted by Dom
No, we won't believe anything nor will we believe everything the Government tells us.
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Sep 3, 2004, 02:17 PM
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ein Krieger
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Well...im just commenting on the thread that was about area-51..how alot of you guys are still convinced that it is completely classified and we have aliens there...haha
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Sep 3, 2004, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Nacht
Well...im just commenting on the thread that was about area-51..how alot of you guys are still convinced that it is completely classified and we have aliens there...haha
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It is completely classified. Infact, I was recently watching a program on The Discovery Channel about how some emplyees that worked at "Area 51" came down with a mysterious illness. They sued, not for money but to find out what was causing their illnesses. The military denied the base's existance despite areial photographs taken by satellites. The military eventually admitted the bases existance but denied it being called "Area 51".
Further investigation came to the conclusion that the emplyee's illnesses was caused by the dumping by toxic waste near where the workers worked. They had burried the waste in the path of a constant wind current.
Nothing more came of the matter because former President Clinton signed a Presidental Order which made all laws, codes, etc. no longer apply at this base.
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/3.10/updata.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...rley073098.htm
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=2106
http://www.ufomind.com/area51/desert...exemption.html
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Sep 3, 2004, 03:04 PM
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ein Krieger
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President Clinton declassified info about Area 51...and it's not really called 'Area 51', but the Groom Lake Air Force Base...'Area 51' was just the block of land that it happened to sit in. it was just numbered like all of the blocks around it.
Area 51 is not used as much now as it was, mainly due to the radioactive elements. they also have waste buried on site, and they have a radioactivity alarm in case they get flare ups.
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Sep 3, 2004, 04:01 PM
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And what of the exemption? What was so important there to warrant it, why all the secrecy? Why deny its existance if it is just a normal base, and then admit it exists? And what of the lack of mention of the base's name in the exemption? If the base had a name at the time, why then was it referred to by Clinton as "the Air Force's operating location near Groom Lake, Nevada"?
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Sep 3, 2004, 04:03 PM
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...maybe the aliens crashed the airplanes
just kidding...but really. anyone who blindly trusts the government in everythign they say from 'the airplane hit the pentagon' to 'their is no area 51' only perpetuates the problems with society's interaction with the so-called democratic body
we no longer have a government of the people for the people....
...it seems we have a goverment of The People(read: The Man, Big Brother, however you like) for the hiding of facts that might disturb the peace, because obviously the truth causes chaos, which is bad....and yet inevitable, unless they lie and give us what is psychologically proven to keep us placent
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Sep 3, 2004, 04:25 PM
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Most of the 7 dwarfs in 1
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Personally, the more I see going on in this world, wars, terrorism, political intrigue and criminals reentering polital arena etc. I'm thinking more along the lines of hidden agendas by the powerful for the powerful.
What? Paranoid! Who me?

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Sep 6, 2004, 06:52 PM
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ein Krieger
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it was a military base. that is why it was secret. it housed some of the nations most secret projects. this was during the cold war, and fear that the russians would obtain our technology was rampant. that is why it was so secret.
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Sep 7, 2004, 09:36 PM
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