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Aug 2, 2004, 10:56 PM
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Bush's contradictory, often stupid, sometimes funny statements
"[b]y the way, we rank 10th amongst the industrialized world in broadband technology and its availability. That's not good enough for America. Tenth is 10 spots too low as far as I'm concerned."—Minneapolis, Minn., April 26, 2004
"See, one of the interesting things in the Oval Office—I love to bring people into the Oval Office—right around the corner from here—and say, this is where I office, but I want you to know the office is always bigger than the person."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 29, 2004
"More Muslims have died at the hands of killers than—I say more Muslims—a lot of Muslims have died—I don't know the exact count—at Istanbul. Look at these different places around the world where there's been tremendous death and destruction because killers kill."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 29, 2004
"And if you're interested in the quality of education and you're paying attention to what you hear at Laclede, why don't you volunteer? Why don't you mentor a child how to read?"—St. Louis, Mo., Jan. 5, 2004
"The ambassador and the general were briefing me on the—the vast majority of Iraqis want to live in a peaceful, free world. And we will find these people and we will bring them to justice."—Washington, D.C., Oct. 27, 2003
"[W]hether they be Christian, Jew, or Muslim, or Hindu, people have heard the universal call to love a neighbor just like they'd like to be called themselves."—Washington, Oct. 8, 2003
"See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction."—Milwaukee, Wis., Oct. 3, 2003
"Our country puts $1 billion a year up to help feed the hungry. And we're by far the most generous nation in the world when it comes to that, and I'm proud to report that. This isn't a contest of who's the most generous. I'm just telling you as an aside. We're generous. We shouldn't be bragging about it. But we are. We're very generous."—Washington, D.C., July 16, 2003
"It's very interesting when you think about it, the slaves who left here to go to America, because of their steadfast and their religion and their belief in freedom, helped change America."—Dakar, Senegal, July 8, 2003 (Thanks to Michael Shively.)
"My answer is bring them on."—On Iraqi militants attacking U.S. forces, Washington, D.C., July 3, 2003
"I'm also not very analytical. You know I don't spend a lot of time thinking about myself, about why I do things."—Aboard Air Force One, June 4, 2003
"We ended the rule of one of history's worst tyrants, and in so doing, we not only freed the American people, we made our own people more secure."—Crawford, Texas, May 3, 2003
"I think war is a dangerous place."—Washington, D.C., May 7, 2003
"You're free. And freedom is beautiful. And, you know, it'll take time to restore chaos and order—order out of chaos. But we will."—Washington, D.C., April 13, 2003
"The law I sign today directs new funds and new focus to the task of collecting vital intelligence on terrorist threats and on weapons of mass production."—Washington, D.C., Nov. 27, 2002
"I was proud the other day when both Republicans and Democrats stood with me in the Rose Garden to announce their support for a clear statement of purpose: you disarm, or we will."—Speaking about Saddam Hussein, Manchester, N.H., Oct. 5, 2002
"We need an energy bill that encourages consumption."—Trenton, N.J., Sept. 23, 2002
"People say, how can I help on this war against terror? How can I fight evil? You can do so by mentoring a child; by going into a shut-in's house and say I love you."—Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2002
"There's an old saying in Tennessee—I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee—that says, fool me once, shame on—shame on you. Fool me—you can't get fooled again."—Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
"There's no doubt in my mind that we should allow the world worst leaders to hold America hostage, to threaten our peace, to threaten our friends and allies with the world's worst weapons."—South Bend, Ind., Sept. 5, 2002
"For a century and a half now, America and Japan have formed one of the great and enduring alliances of modern times."—Tokyo, Japan, Feb. 18, 2002
http://slate.msn.com/id/76886/
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Aug 3, 2004, 12:27 AM
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VETUS INFLATIO
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Aug 3, 2004, 08:17 PM
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At least Kerry intelligently contradicts himself. I'd rather have that, than an idiot.
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Aug 3, 2004, 08:33 PM
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VETUS INFLATIO
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If your implying that Bush is an idiot then I wonder if you knew he performed in a superior manner to both Clinton and Kerry in college. In fact Bush is extremely articulate, just that people dont understand the way Texans speak..lol. If you have gone to an Ivy league school, attained honors, ran for the presidency and won, then you just might have an opinion. I am starting to hear the same old broken record over and over again. Lets face it, Bush is not nor ever will be an idiot, to associate him with idiocy is to impune the character and intelligence of all politicians...and that might not be such a stretch...lol.
Last edited by fallang_jeff; Aug 4, 2004 at 10:19 PM.
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Aug 3, 2004, 10:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by C-Style
At least Kerry intelligently contradicts himself. I'd rather have that, than an idiot.
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What do you mean by intelligently? He does it with more style than Bush? Doesn't that come with lots of experience?
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Aug 3, 2004, 10:57 PM
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Everyones life has worth
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Kerry is a better speaker. I'm sorry, that doesn't determine intelligence. You guys will just have to try something else.
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Aug 4, 2004, 12:00 AM
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Delete Me
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it comes down to this:
do we want someone who says stupid stuff and follows through with it,
or someone who says great stuff and then does stupid stuff instead
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Aug 4, 2004, 07:07 PM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
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Originally posted by fallang_jeff
If your implying that Bush is an idiot then I wonder if you knew he performed in a superior manner to both Clinton and Kerry in college. In fact Bush is extremely articulate, just that people dont understand the way Texans speak..lol. If you have gone to an Ivy leage school, attained honors, ran for the presidency and won, then you just might have an opinion. I am starting to hear the same old broken record over and over again. Lets face it, Bush is not nor ever will be an idiot, to associate him with idiocy is to impune the character and intelligence of all politicians...and that might not be such a stretch...lol.
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I strongly disagree. The way Bush speaks cannot just be summed up in as people misunderstanding the way he speaks. He hardly ever presents himself as being 'articulate'.
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Aug 4, 2004, 10:28 PM
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VETUS INFLATIO
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I honestly think that people are preoccupied with statements or phoopas he made in public and this is in no way unique to him, every single president on film or television as made some serious blunders and often had them edited in final taping, but live they make a few boo boos, even Margeret Thatcher, or the Canadian PM, or perhaps the German president, oh yes, they all make frequent blunders, but the media as taken aim at Bush, in much the same way they focused on Fords clumsiness. 20 or 30 years ago, this kind of partisen and biased reporting against a president would have been scandalous. If the only jokes one hears about Bush are his public boners, then he is in good company with Kerry, Clinton, Kennedy, etc,etc, etc....The man is very intelligent and articulate enough to land a position in the whitehouse, so the point is moot. I think it is a little sophmoric and narrow to focus on a politicians blunders while speaking. The substance of the man is what really scares many of our adversaries, when he says he will kick ass, he kicks ass. The fact that he never stuck his nose up the Kennedy families ass, and he is respected in the State of New York and Mass. says alot. I would never consider Kerry as an idiot, although he has made blunders as well. When Bush addresses his cabinet, and meets privately with his staff, he is far from the man you see on television raked by the media, he is direct and aggressive, What he lacks in the blue nosed graces of the East Coast Caucasion community he more than makes up for with his resolve. Whoopi's crap
When I think of John Kerry, I must disagree with the media's assertion that he was a hero, in fact his former shipmates speakout, I am a sailor and I embrace their version of events and their opinions before I would ever the "yacht sailing" champagne crowd of Nantucket.
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Aug 5, 2004, 12:01 AM
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Guido
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Quote:
Originally posted by fallang_jeff
If your implying that Bush is an idiot then I wonder if you knew he performed in a superior manner to both Clinton and Kerry in college. In fact Bush is extremely articulate, just that people dont understand the way Texans speak..lol. If you have gone to an Ivy league school, attained honors, ran for the presidency and won, then you just might have an opinion. I am starting to hear the same old broken record over and over again. Lets face it, Bush is not nor ever will be an idiot, to associate him with idiocy is to impune the character and intelligence of all politicians...and that might not be such a stretch...lol.
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Are you reffering to his " c " average at yale ??
Bush speech
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Aug 5, 2004, 04:38 AM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
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Quote:
Originally posted by fallang_jeff
I honestly think that people are preoccupied with statements or phoopas he made in public and this is in no way unique to him, every single president on film or television as made some serious blunders and often had them edited in final taping, but live they make a few boo boos, even Margeret Thatcher, or the Canadian PM, or perhaps the German president, oh yes, they all make frequent blunders, but the media as taken aim at Bush, in much the same way they focused on Fords clumsiness. 20 or 30 years ago, this kind of partisen and biased reporting against a president would have been scandalous. If the only jokes one hears about Bush are his public boners, then he is in good company with Kerry, Clinton, Kennedy, etc,etc, etc....The man is very intelligent and articulate enough to land a position in the whitehouse, so the point is moot. I think it is a little sophmoric and narrow to focus on a politicians blunders while speaking. The substance of the man is what really scares many of our adversaries, when he says he will kick ass, he kicks ass. The fact that he never stuck his nose up the Kennedy families ass, and he is respected in the State of New York and Mass. says alot. I would never consider Kerry as an idiot, although he has made blunders as well. When Bush addresses his cabinet, and meets privately with his staff, he is far from the man you see on television raked by the media, he is direct and aggressive, What he lacks in the blue nosed graces of the East Coast Caucasion community he more than makes up for with his resolve.Whoopi's crap
When I think of John Kerry, I must disagree with the media's assertion that he was a hero, in fact his former shipmates speakout, I am a sailor and I embrace their version of events and their opinions before I would ever the "yacht sailing" champagne crowd of Nantucket.
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This is more than just a few blunders. In nearly every speach he's made, he's made a few 'idiotic statements'. As for him landing the job as president, as far as I'm concerned this means nothing. Remember it was not the people whom voted him in. And now many want him replaced as president...
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Aug 5, 2004, 10:22 AM
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VETUS INFLATIO
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Alrighty Dom, so people didnt go to the poles? The gap or margin has never been satisfactory resolved has it, Florida just recently found more boxes of ballots from the original event years ago, and what of the absentee votes of the military that mysteriously never made it to count as well, a full 159,000 votes were never counted, and these were predominantly for Bush, The point is clear to me. Al Gore would have had his fingers up his own political rearend if he were faced with 911 and the country would have been more "in debt". If you recall, Mr. Gore, the chief rival of Mr. Bush was famous for public boners, or should I post those too....LOL
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Aug 5, 2004, 05:32 PM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
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Yes and if Gore had be elected under the same circumstances as Bush you'd be ready to lynch him. Republicans are such hypocrites, you do the same thing Democrates do only you don't admit to it. The Bush Administration is one of convenience, whenever there's a problem in their camp something always happens to 'fix it'... There's always a new terror alert to cause distraction away from how bad the administration really is.
As for Gore's "public boners" - go ahead and post them. Shall we compare them to Bush's? I'm sure you'll say it's just Bush's Texan lingo that confuses us...I wasn't aware "misunestimate" was something often used in Texas. His father never used it, they're from the same parts of Texas, yet I've never misunderstood him. This is a lot more than just people not understand him because he's Texan, saying so is load of crap and you know it Jeff.
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Aug 5, 2004, 06:45 PM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
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Re: Bush's contradictory, often stupid, sometimes funny statements
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Originally posted by bannerad
[b]"y the way, we rank 10th amongst the industrialized world in broadband technology and its availability. That's not good enough for America. Tenth is 10 spots too low as far as I'm concerned."—Minneapolis, Minn., April 26, 2004
"See, one of the interesting things in the Oval Office—I love to bring people into the Oval Office—right around the corner from here—and say, this is where I office, but I want you to know the office is always bigger than the person."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 29, 2004
"More Muslims have died at the hands of killers than—I say more Muslims—a lot of Muslims have died—I don't know the exact count—at Istanbul. Look at these different places around the world where there's been tremendous death and destruction because killers kill."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 29, 2004
"And if you're interested in the quality of education and you're paying attention to what you hear at Laclede, why don't you volunteer? Why don't you mentor a child how to read?"—St. Louis, Mo., Jan. 5, 2004
"The ambassador and the general were briefing me on the—the vast majority of Iraqis want to live in a peaceful, free world. And we will find these people and we will bring them to justice."—Washington, D.C., Oct. 27, 2003
"[W]hether they be Christian, Jew, or Muslim, or Hindu, people have heard the universal call to love a neighbor just like they'd like to be called themselves."—Washington, Oct. 8, 2003
"See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction."—Milwaukee, Wis., Oct. 3, 2003
"Our country puts $1 billion a year up to help feed the hungry. And we're by far the most generous nation in the world when it comes to that, and I'm proud to report that. This isn't a contest of who's the most generous. I'm just telling you as an aside. We're generous. We shouldn't be bragging about it. But we are. We're very generous."—Washington, D.C., July 16, 2003
"It's very interesting when you think about it, the slaves who left here to go to America, because of their steadfast and their religion and their belief in freedom, helped change America."—Dakar, Senegal, July 8, 2003 (Thanks to Michael Shively.)
"My answer is bring them on."—On Iraqi militants attacking U.S. forces, Washington, D.C., July 3, 2003
"I'm also not very analytical. You know I don't spend a lot of time thinking about myself, about why I do things."—Aboard Air Force One, June 4, 2003
"We ended the rule of one of history's worst tyrants, and in so doing, we not only freed the American people, we made our own people more secure."—Crawford, Texas, May 3, 2003
"I think war is a dangerous place."—Washington, D.C., May 7, 2003
"You're free. And freedom is beautiful. And, you know, it'll take time to restore chaos and order—order out of chaos. But we will."—Washington, D.C., April 13, 2003
"The law I sign today directs new funds and new focus to the task of collecting vital intelligence on terrorist threats and on weapons of mass production."—Washington, D.C., Nov. 27, 2002
"I was proud the other day when both Republicans and Democrats stood with me in the Rose Garden to announce their support for a clear statement of purpose: you disarm, or we will."—Speaking about Saddam Hussein, Manchester, N.H., Oct. 5, 2002
"We need an energy bill that encourages consumption."—Trenton, N.J., Sept. 23, 2002
"People say, how can I help on this war against terror? How can I fight evil? You can do so by mentoring a child; by going into a shut-in's house and say I love you."—Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2002
"There's an old saying in Tennessee—I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee—that says, fool me once, shame on—shame on you. Fool me—you can't get fooled again."—Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
"There's no doubt in my mind that we should allow the world worst leaders to hold America hostage, to threaten our peace, to threaten our friends and allies with the world's worst weapons."—South Bend, Ind., Sept. 5, 2002
"For a century and a half now, America and Japan have formed one of the great and enduring alliances of modern times."—Tokyo, Japan, Feb. 18, 2002
http://slate.msn.com/id/76886/
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BTW those aren't exacts quotes they been monkyed with asumeing they were really said at all......
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Aug 5, 2004, 07:04 PM
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Re: Re: Bush's contradictory, often stupid, sometimes funny statements
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Originally posted by The_Neon_Cowboy
BTW those aren't exacts quotes they been monkyed with asumeing they were really said at all......
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Oh, really? Prove them wrong then.
In your eyes Bush can do no wrong. You're so full of yourself, Mr. I'm a good man, I choose the lesser evil. Please, that is such a cop-out. Everytime you see something that is detrimental to the Bush Administration you always say, "Well, I actually don't like either one of them."
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Aug 6, 2004, 12:49 AM
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Unbiased.
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Lets try and keep this from becoming personal, bannerad. Please.
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Aug 12, 2004, 01:45 PM
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DriverHeaven Maniac
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Well. you know the saying, " never discuss poiltics or religion." It always gets personal and leads to arguments. And remember this saying: "If you cant stand the heat, get out of the kitchen."
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Aug 12, 2004, 03:55 PM
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ein Krieger
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haha...have you not looked at the 'kerryisms' on the very same website?
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Aug 12, 2004, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by The_Neon_Cowboy
BTW those aren't exacts quotes they been monkyed with asumeing they were really said at all......
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go watch Fahrenheit 9/11 and you'll know that this one is real:
"There's an old saying in Tennessee—I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee—that says, fool me once, shame on—shame on you. Fool me—you can't get fooled again."—Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
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Aug 12, 2004, 06:55 PM
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ein Krieger
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go watch f9/11 and you'll know it's real? what the hell kind of statement is that?!? it's like an oxymoron.
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Aug 12, 2004, 08:34 PM
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it has the actual clip at the end though, slick
call the movie BS all you want..but he didn't make the stuff up
biased, yes
lies, no
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Aug 12, 2004, 08:52 PM
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ein Krieger
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well, when you cut segments of speaches and articles to change their meaning, that is a lie, as it gives off the wrong connotations.
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Aug 12, 2004, 09:14 PM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
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Originally Posted by Nacht
well, when you cut segments of speaches and articles to change their meaning, that is a lie, as it gives off the wrong connotations.
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You mean like the Bush Administration does in their anti-Kerry ads?
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Aug 13, 2004, 09:20 AM
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I like to whinge
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I'm anti-Bush, but I lean more towards Bush because he's solid in what he does.
Where is Kerry on the other hand..
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