raid517

What do you guys make of this?

http://news.com.com/Antipiracy+bill+...l?tag=nefd.top

It seems to me that government really is working to destroy your freedoms.

GJ

Nacht

The problem is lawmakers attempting to rectify problems that they do not understand. They dont understand the technology, and thus make huge errors in the way they word bills..so they end up having massive impact. This is just like that law passed in a couple of states that basically makes it illegal to have a firewall on your computer...hardware or software. It's ignorant.

raid517

Erm... Did they really do that? That's frickin nuts man...

GJ

raid517

But anyway yes you are right. A lot of these guys probably still don't know how to program their VCR's (a lot of them probably think the damn things are the work of the devil no doubt) let alone understand the implications of computer technology.

Why the hell should they be allowed free a free run to do as they please to the legislative process?

GJ

BWX

And to think you would vote against the people trying to protect our freedoms...

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raid517

The guy proposing that bill is a Republican man.

GJ

Nacht

Well, the thing with the firewall was only in certain states, not a federal thing...I'm not even sure if it passed or not. Thankfully, this bill will probably not pass.

BWX

That guy must be a RINO or something.....
In general Dems are for more control, bigger gov.. And repubs. are for smaller gov. less control-- in general anyway..

dj_stick

notice potentially
just like alcohol can potentially kill, but they don't ban that
just like a car can potentially be kill someone, but they don't ban them
just like a gun can potentially be used for murder, but they don't ban them

they have no idea what they are passing laws about, they need qualified neutral technicians to explain what these products do

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Nacht

No no...he may be a republican, but the operative term in this case would be "moron".

JavaFox

The attack on our personal liberties in small ways like this is in no way monopolized by one party. To suggest otherwise, as you're doing, is silly.

raid517

Well I don't happen to think it's silly at all. Sorry.

And we are talking about the incumbent party in power.

If it was some kind of power sharing deal as has been discussed in other threads then maybe we can talk about some kind of collective responsibility. Until then, no.

GJ

Nacht

Trying to contort these events to somehow justify that it is republicans invading our personal liberties is moronic, and stereotypical.

raid517

Well like I said, the guys a republican. Pretty much every RIAA, MPAA loving bill in recent years have been introduced by republicans. The Patriot act and Guantanamo (aka locking people up without charge) are all Republican inspired entities (despite whoever for their own personal political gain later claimed to support them). All the recent legislation allowing the authorities almost unlimited access to your phones and your PCs are republican sponsored policies.

In many ways far from removing government from people's lives, this government has decided that its role is to have it's nose firmly rammed up peoples butts.

Ultimately I don't really care. It doesn't affect anyone in my country. And if it ever did, then I would probably feel inspired to go out and get a gun and make my dissatisfaction quite plain.

But hey, you believe what you want.

GJ

Nacht

You attacked ZD when he made the comment about dems/libs having a more "swinging" (as he put it) lifestyle, you claimed he was making generalizations...which he was. As are you, now. I am a republican...I support the guantanamo bay policies for reasons I'm not going to discuss now..but that doesnt mean that people that believe about the same things as me are solely responsible for the disolval of citizens personal liberty. That is a very childish and shortsighted assumption.