bluelight

Link

If so you are in trouble....

Bluelight

mkk

That is so cute.

Significant or not (more likely not, at least outside Fox network employees and other extremist groups), they migth perhaps get some financial backing from the federal administrations funding towards boosting marriages.

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bird chest

wow I do not know what to say after seeing that sight.

zerodamage

What is wrong with it? The leftists have adultfriendfinder.com. The founder of the site probably had bad experiences with the other sites and started his own, hard telling really. The majority of Conservatives that I know are happily married.

bluelight

No i guess its no big deal but if people learn to tink this way then what is next move?

Politically segregated areas for living?

Personally i find the whole idea unintelligent and at its outmost destructive.



Bluelight

bird chest

These sights are not for the average joe these are for the super right or left because most of us get over differences in political views.

Proper Gander

no, nothing wrong with that site. like other dating sites, you choose your mate based on characteristics, like smoking, religion, income, age.... political opinion is just another. obviously not a political site.

zerodamage

Are you saying this site is for Conservatives as well? Those who are typically religious or are married and have sex only with their mate? No. Adultfriendfinder is unofficially aimed at the swinging left. The site doesn't need to say "for liberals" on it to be aimed at liberals.

Guidoo

Your dead wrong on this one Zero.......

Being conservative or liberal has really nothing to do with one being an adulterer or a "swinger"
I'm quite sure your aware of Bill Clintons extramarital affair or affairs, but are you also aware of the following.

1. Newt Gingrich....turned out he was having an affair with an office worker.
2. Dwight D. Eisenhower....General of Supreme allied command WW2, later President of our country.
Yes he too had an affair.

3. J. Edgar Hoover.....considered by many the founding father of the FBI.
Turns out he was a cross-dresser.


There is even a group of Republicans who are quite conservative in every way but one......they're Gay.

Log Cabin Republicans


There are people who "swing" on both sides of the political fence.

There are a lot more examples out there....think about it for a moment.
How many stories have you heard about a wealthy man being wiped out financialy by a divorce
due to him cheating on his wife.

Guido

zerodamage

No Guido. You are confusing people who made mistakes with affairs, sex outside their marriage with that of a lifestyle. Adultfriendfinder targets a lifestyle. Not the one man/woman who cheats on his or her wife. It doesn't target supposed cross dressers. And actually, I think the cross dressing accusation should be backed up with some sort of link. I've never heard of this and am interested in reading about it.

Homosexuals are a minority of the population. Some may share some conservative belief's such as lower taxes, etc, but on the whole are not conservatives.

Guidoo

Zero


Here are a couple of links in regards to J. Edgar Hoover's "crossdressing"
link 1
link 2
link 3

I didn't "accuse" Hoover of being a crossdresser...others did that.
2 say he was, one says he wasn't a crossdresser but may have been gay. There are a lot of links off google about Hoover. I am not including any of the many "gay" sites.

And you are still confusing liberals with with swingers. The 2 have nothing to do with each other. "Swingers" or "deviants" or "whatever" come from all walks of life. Blue collar,white collar,black,white,rich,poor,republican,democrat,i ndependent(hope i didn't leave anyone out......
)I'm sure you consider me a liberal, well I guess most of the friends my wife and I have would be considered liberal by you and many others. Guess what.....were not swingers...and neither are our friends.

Is there is some kind of guide as to what a conservative/liberal is ?
What percentage of the criteria does one have pass in order to fit into a category? 6/10
9/10 or 10/10 ? I ask this in reference to my earlier link regarding the "Log Cabin Republicans"
They supported Pres Bush in 2000. By your thinking is it even ok for them to support a conservative candidate ?

Frankly your whole attitude toward those you refer to as liberal is really quite rude. In another thread you reffered to the state of Mass as a Cess Pool of liberalism. I may think a lot of things about people I differ from politically. But comparing them to pool of s**t is not one of them.

Guido

Proper Gander

when I say "not a political site", it means, "has nothing to do with politics", pretty clear either way



by the way, you are commiting a distortion by generalization
why not take it further and say "that site is aimed at human beings"

zerodamage

We differ on opinion about the sites. Who cares really. The majority of people who are swingers are not conservatives. If you are a sexual swinger, you are not a conservative. If you are not a conservative but just the opposite, what does that make you? Something to think about.

As for the J. Edgar Hoover cross dressing accusation, it is nothing but that. None of those links prove it at all. You posted it as though it were fact, when it isn't. This is why I always ask for links to back up claims such as this. People believe anything they find on the web if it suits their political agenda.

bluelight

Qoute

"The majority of people who are swingers are not conservatives"



And this you base on what?'

You got statistics on how "Swingers" vote?!

Or does your common sense tell you this?

Bluelight

Guidoo

Blue has a good point here.........do you have any stats showing the political makeup of swingers ??
I'm sure you consider me a liberal....does that make me a swinger too ?

As for Hoover ever being a crossdresser , I didn't need the web to hear about that. I heard about it 20 years before the web as we know it existed. I heard it from my Dad and others. BTW my dad was quite the conservative.......he made Archie Bunker look like Ralph Nader . I have a little broader scope than just the web. Truthfully I never even thought to look up Hoover on the web till you asked for links. Those were the first few I came across. Very little of what people do behind closed doors ever becomes public knowledge. Were you expecting pictures of Hoover in drag from 40 or 50 years ago...lol.

And i have no politcal agenda regarding Hoover or what a liberal or a conservative is. You seem to though. You've implied in your posts that only liberals are swingers ...no conservatives. Does this give conservatives some sort of moral highground over liberals ? Only conservatives are faithfull to their spouses ? What bunk...

Guido

zerodamage

Let me explain it for you again Guido and Blue. Now this is a common sense thing here so please try to follow along. Not all liberals are swingers. I never said that. Swingers and those who live the swinging life style are NOT Christians and/or Conservative living people. The swinging lifestyle completely contradicts the conservative lifestyle. I do not need a poll or statistical data to back up common sense logic. Either you understand it or you do not.

As for the other accusation. Like I said, there is nothing to confirm it. Now it may be true. But it doesn't support your argument at all.

Proper Gander

you seem to be arguing against things I never even said. are you trying to pick fights or something?

anyway, what I said was adultfriend.com has nothing to do with politics, it has to do with sex. that is a fact.
if you don't see that, I worry what else you might not be seeing straight about.

my other point was that you are distorting by generalizing that site is for liberals. it's not for liberals, it's for swingers.
when you do that, it does imply that you're saying all liberals are swingers, even though you don't think that.
you need to be specific when possible in order to avoid appearing to say things you don't mean. that's just good practice.

zerodamage

Read my above post and maybe read it twice.

Proper Gander

maybe you should read my post better

BMG_Cya=-

What's more significant is how leftists...democrats...whatever you are calling yourselves these days,
don't think at all.

zerodamage

The truth in that statement isn't funny. One wants to be president. Maybe he can feel his way through it.

Asmoday

I'm really amazed by the narrowminded views that are being showed off in this forum...i know there are differences in culture and politics between lets say my homeland Sweden and Usa...i do not live in Usa, and can't be expected to understand all your ways.
But some of you conservatives just amazes me, some of your oppinions are almost scary to me. You're in a way racist to everyone that doesn't share your views, democrats are like that, democrats are like this, John Kerry might have french connections that make him not being able to take a stand....
It's almost like you think you're superior to any who doesn't share you political views, what kind of stupid almost facist thinking is that??
Do you consider yourself to be a better person than lets say me? I'm a democrat...(the swedish version) what exactly makes me a lesser person then a American conservative?
I like to believe that all men are equal....is that so wrong?

/Cartman

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kemet64

I find it kind of funny actually. And yes, I am a left liberal....but....It doesnt really "bother" me or anything. I mean, there are much worse things possible than an all conservative group. Just got a laugh outta it.


As for Hoover, I dont know about hard facts...however it is an ongoing theme often made as a joke in modern shows (on The Simpsons: THe X-Files episode). Was picture of Hoover in dress on wall of mulder's office.

All I know is hoover was...well....lets just say not the best FBI Director when civil liberties were questioned. However, lets not get into that.

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bird chest

Hoover was a dream come true compared to the presidents preceding him. He was one of the most liberal presidents in that era until FDR. Just because things went wrong under his watch does not mean he was the most concervative. This was all strait out of my socialist history teacher. I do not mean socialist in a bad way he is literally a socialist.

kemet64

im talking about J Edgar Hoover

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bird chest

haha sorry

I thought your post was way out of left field lol guess it was not. Sorry.

kemet64

haha not a problem. I was thinking....wait...J Edgar was president? lol

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Billy Toaster

didnt you say in another thread here this week, common sense shouldnt be used in political debates? make your mind up.

Muchacho1313

Wow Mkk,

I didnt realise that the Fox news corporation was an extremist group. Thats quite the alligation there. I personally choose to watch Fox news because they provide the best source for news with out the spin. I would define an extremist group as someone so set on an agenda that they fail to look at all sides of the issue. Please do not try to say that is the way FOX presents there news. Or maybe im just part of that extremist group...along with the majority of the country that uses that channel for its news and content.

FOX News the extremist's sourse for fair and balanced news!

Pfft, Get real

ToshiroOC

I would tend to think that there is no such thing as news without spin - some people think FOX News has a terrible right-wing spin, and others think that it is accurate reporting. Some people think BBC has a terrible left-wing spin, and others think that it is accurate reporting. Individual perception and the differing focuses of different news agencies are always going to make certain people think that certain news sources have "no spin", and make everyone else think otherwise; there is no possible standard to which one could hold news organizations to keep them unbiased.

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