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Old Dec 30, 2003, 06:05 AM   #1
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USA President, who would do a better job?

Coming from Ireland id like to hear from all the USA members if there is someone who they feel would do a better job as President of the USA. I dont really follow USA politics much apart from the mainstream news that hits the TV here.

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Old Dec 30, 2003, 08:29 AM   #2
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Old Dec 30, 2003, 08:38 AM   #3
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It is very likely, that the Democrats will shoot each other in a circular firing squad with all their squabbling, Republican canidates will have a much easier time, including our current president. Whether the electoral college or popular vote hold sway in the next election, the Democrats are disemblowling themselves politically and We will see a reprise of Pres. Bush.
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I like president bush but I do not think he is a great president I just do not see anyone I like more. Right at this moment I am glad bush is running this country.
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He is awsome but I do not think he know much more then military stuff and on top of that I do not think he wants to be president but if he were to run that is most likely where my vote would be.
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Yeah, everybody thats anybody in politics kinda sux right now, George is great for now. Wonder how Condi would do in office though...?
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Old Dec 30, 2003, 04:37 PM   #7
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Bush ain't bad but he is horrible with foriegn relations. he needs to be more concerned with other people than himself. he is too concerned with pleasing himself than others.And i dont think he knows what he is doing. thats just my opinion.
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Old Dec 30, 2003, 04:55 PM   #8
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Not so sure I agree man. If Bush cared what every single world leader thought, the U.S. would be nothing but a puppet of nations like Germany and France. To be honest, if we hadn't been the same then that we are now and did what we had to do, France and Germany would be one in the same. There wouldn't be a europe, it would be just one huge mass Germany (maybe, who knows what else may have happened).
I am not putting down any other nation, What I am saying is that Bush does care. His #1 priority are us, the American people, Everyone else is secondary. Those nations who turned their back on us, on the bottom, shit list. Anyone here would be the same way.
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Old Dec 30, 2003, 05:06 PM   #9
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Old Dec 30, 2003, 05:11 PM   #10
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I'm all for 4 more years of George W. Bush.
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Old Dec 30, 2003, 06:55 PM   #11
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I'm all for 4 more years of George W. Bush.
rofl thats a good one
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Old Dec 30, 2003, 10:17 PM   #12
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BUSH FOR PRESIDENT
I went to war with his father and I respected his leadership and his vision, in the context of the times, he is a great leader in my opinion. His son, our president has testicles the size of Texas, and you know the world is watching with interest and perhaps regret at the fantastic success our mlitary has enjoyed, the faliures of the past generations have seemed to have been redeemed. I will vote for him again

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Cool!

Wow...I'm impressed at how this post hasn't turned into an all out war. Politics are kinda touchy. Good job ladies and gents on keeping it civil.


Oh...I'd vote for my current boss....again.
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Old Dec 30, 2003, 11:06 PM   #14
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i guess i don't like the money Bush throws at other countries like we can give it freely.that money could go to people in our own country that need it more
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there lies the rub
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I think I would have to put my vote towards General "Stormin" Norman, that is if he were running. But he isn't running.....so......

As far as the candidates go, that are running now..........NONE OF THEM!!! None of them seem to have my interest's in mind, at least considering G.W.'s performance, and from watching the ad's and debates of the doomsday democrat's........I call them that because all they do is bicker amongst themselves...and when they do it.....they are pretty close to the truth about what they say about each other. All of them are making good points about the other's........and that is pointing out every fault that each of them have........and it appears to be alot. If you were to put them all in the same picture......it would make a good ad campaign for BIRTH CONTROL!! All they are doing is making G.W.'s job easier to stay in the seat. Another 4 years of him.........and we wont have a millitary left.
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I'm all for 4 more years of George W. Bush.
I agree I like George W. He will get my vote agian. Being former military Treatment of our military is important to me. GWB is great to them. I think he is a great president for our times. All i can say is thankgod that a liberal bedwetter is not in the white house
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George Carlin would certainly be better than any of the current Yahoos, Seriously though I'd vote for anyone who wasn't a Republican or a Democrat really. A libertarian would be nice but their to dangerous to the Statist policies of our current party so.....
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I agree I like George W. He will get my vote agian. Being former military Treatment of our military is important to me. GWB is great to them. I think he is a great president for our times. All i can say is thankgod that a liberal bedwetter is not in the white house
I dont think being a "liberal" has anything to do with it. Or if your response had anything to do with mine.....To clarify......the reason I said, "Another 4 years of him.........and we wont have a millitary left." Is because with all the deployment's of our troops.....active and reserve......extending tour's of duty......deploying in so many places........fast deplyment turn around.....and all of the other things going on with the military in general. He is causing a low recruitment rate and a HIGH retirement and ETS rate. This isn't good. Not to mention the low moral rates of the military in general because of all of this.
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George Carlin would certainly be better than any of the current Yahoos, Seriously though I'd vote for anyone who wasn't a Republican or a Democrat really. A libertarian would be nice but their to dangerous to the Statist policies of our current party so.....
least he wouldn't lie hes just stight up tell ya what he's doing and why...
insted pulling a "bush" manoover....

yea it was great getting clintion out

need to get rid of bush i'nm sorry
but i down thank any presidant should go more then 4 years

bush can go back to his 200,000+ pluse acre rance and life the rich life he lived before lol
for once i'd like to see an every day joe in office

not some self serveing "rich guy"

it sad it first need for you to have any chance of ecection is have a few etra million laying around
and have enough bussinesses layering your pockets with dough, and who you know ... to have leeway lol

they current system is way to corrupt

i'd also like to see 12 or more canadtes on any postion... ballot

not who just gets a specail nomination...

then also out vote mean absoluly sqwawt, since president are NOT ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE
theier ELECTED BY A ELITE GROUP CALLED THE ELECTORIAL COLLAGE....

and in history it's happend only once but it has happend that the party with the most citzen votes lost the election... thats bs

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least he wouldn't lie hes just stight up tell ya what he's doing and why...
insted pulling a "bush" manoover....

yea it was great getting clintion out

need to get rid of bush i'nm sorry
but i down thank any presidant should go more then 4 years

bush can go back to his 200,000+ pluse acre rance and life the rich life he lived before lol
for once i'd like to see an every day joe in office

not some self serveing "rich guy"

it sad it first need for you to have any chance of ecection is have a few etra million laying around
and have enough bussinesses layering your pockets with dough, and who you know ... to have leeway lol

they current system is way to corrupt

i'd also like to see 12 or more canadtes on any postion... ballot

not who just gets a specail nomination...

then also out vote mean absoluly sqwawt, since president are NOT ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE
theier ELECTED BY A ELITE GROUP CALLED THE ELECTORIAL COLLAGE....

and in history it's happend only once but it has happend that the party with the most citzen votes lost the election... thats bs
The electoral college was put into place for the reason that most people were idiots back then. The forefathers figured that the elected would be smart and have a much higher education than the normal people. So it's a failsafe, because remember, just because everyone wants it doesn't make it right. It's put there to make sure that we don't get a full fledged KKK guy for president, doesn't matter if everyone voted for him the electoral college could choose who they feel would do the right thing.

But I do think that the elctoral college can be removed, seeing as most of us have a pretty solid education. But then again the masses here are stupid liberals and shouldn't even be allowed to speak, so I think the elctoral college can stay around for a while longer.
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The electoral college was put into place for the reason that most people were idiots back then. The forefathers figured that the elected would be smart and have a much higher education than the normal people. So it's a failsafe, because remember, just because everyone wants it doesn't make it right. It's put there to make sure that we don't get a full fledged KKK guy for president, doesn't matter if everyone voted for him the electoral college could choose who they feel would do the right thing.

But I do think that the elctoral college can be removed, seeing as most of us have a pretty solid education. But then again the masses here are stupid liberals and shouldn't even be allowed to speak, so I think the elctoral college can stay around for a while longer.
hers a tough why not a system that isnt ruled by a president?
keep the same system but then but a small group of prears.. like having seral prisdents at one they must agree on stuff.... wonder if that would work...
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I dont think being a "liberal" has anything to do with it. Or if your response had anything to do with mine.....To clarify......the reason I said, "Another 4 years of him.........and we wont have a millitary left." Is because with all the deployment's of our troops.....active and reserve......extending tour's of duty......deploying in so many places........fast deplyment turn around.....and all of the other things going on with the military in general. He is causing a low recruitment rate and a HIGH retirement and ETS rate. This isn't good. Not to mention the low moral rates of the military in general because of all of this.

LOL The world hasnt seen 1/10th of our military power. Just so you know All the recruiters I know say enlistment is doing very well. Btw Alot of soldiers Love the situation because during war times you gain rank quickly. Many privites are now E4`s now. Rank = money. Yes war is a hard time, I dont think anyone truly wants to do it. But without war you cant have peace.
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LOL The world hasnt seen 1/10th of our military power. Just so you know All the recruiters I know say enlistment is doing very well. Btw Alot of soldiers Love the situation because during war times you gain rank quickly. Many privites are now E4`s now. Rank = money. Yes war is a hard time, I dont think anyone truly wants to do it. But without war you cant have peace.
Ur totally rig