USA President, who would do a better job?

Dyre Straits

Neon,

No one was saying that the electoral college selects the candidates. What was being said was that the candidates would only have to work the highly populated areas to win election if there weren't the electoral college.

I, for one, don't want the elected officials being determined by only a few regions like New England, California, and such. With the EC, it's a truly national election.

bird chest

If you own a buiness you have to pay a lot more taxes. Because you have to pay for all of social security and welfare. Once you are a big business you have to pay a 30% business tax so all and all you pay mor money. Yes they do get more tax breaks but they still end up paying more. The richest 10% of the population pay 60% of the us taxes and the poorest 40% pay 8% of the taxes.

The_Neon_Cowboy

but it sems the requre ments are first a big pocket book, second and education, 3rd party support (that are seeking to serve thier own interests)

what happend to servie for the greater good?

our gov. is a discrase i've seen bills with huge publice backing but it would of hurt big business. bug bussiness fire up their lobbists and the bills defeated it total bs. it suposed to a a nation for the people of the people. not a county for the elite only, standing on the sholders of everyone else.

it's sad... another thing


like for peaple..
a co wants to open a location in our town....
other companies that wil be in direct compition..
so the fight them in the city council and fightthier bids for land anything to keep the other companies out. what happened to fair compition

i could go on on one but we know the world we live in...

The_Neon_Cowboy

ok and they stop takeing taxes out of you check once you hit 150,000 gross in a year...
but big bissiness and the rich can afford it more. (i know they still pay taxes on it later)

doesn one really need to have say 100+ million to say 500 billion setting and drawing interst? ...
those super rich elite can afford more taxes it's true....

this is the way it looks to me

lower class TAX
milddle clase More Tax
upper class less tax

bird chest

Does the public always know what is best for them? Look if you hurt big business what is going to happen they are going to fire people!!! or cut pay,benefits, etc... Big business has rights to so I do not see your point. Jsut because the media only shows one side to the story does not mean there is not another.

bird chest

That is social security everyother tax you pay on every cent you make.

How can the big business afford it? Have you ever looked at the budgets of these companies many of them not all are not breaking even and end up going bankrupt that is a lot of jobs down the drain. So just cause a few are doing really well does not mean they all are.

Davidgt

who pays what

The top 1%, who earn 20.81% of all income covered under the income
tax, are paying 37.42% of the federal tax bite.
Top 5% - 56.47% of all income taxes; Top 10% - 67.33% of all income
taxes; Top 25% - 84.01% of all income taxes. Top 50% - 96.09% of all
income taxes. The bottom 50%? They pay a paltry 3.91% of all income
taxes. The top 1% is paying more than ten times the federal income
taxes than the bottom 1%! And who earns what? The top 1% earns
20.81% of all income. The top 5% earns 35.30% of the pie. The top
10% earns 46.01%; the top 25% earns 67.15%, and the top 50% earns
87.01% of all the income.

The very largest tax cut of 33% goes to the lowest-wage workers in the newlycreated 10% tax bracket. However, the smallest tax cut of 7.4% goes to single-filers with a taxable income of $27,050. For couples filing
jointly, the smallest tax cut is 8.8% for taxable incomes of $45,200.
The tax cut then rises gradually to 15.5% for single-filers at
$136,750 and 14.0% for joint-filers at $166,500.


Lol them guys pay tons of taxes. Dont use the guys who worked there ass off to get where there at as an excuse. source

Davidgt

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/men...res.guest.html

another link for you my taxes are to high bedwetters

Falstaff

good call, Rush still makes valid points.

Dyre Straits

It's interesting that North Korea has now invited a US delegation to view their nuclear site.

Hopefully, this is the beginning of something good.

bird chest

Really, that is interesting to see what come of it. Post what comes of it or you might not need to, hope you need to.

The_Neon_Cowboy

boy thy were really bush bashing on msn last knight lol
they wer also picking on the canidates mistakes it was a very interesting show...

it sad hw the media seem to focus on the "negitive"

Dyre Straits

More proposed N. Korea concessions:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...d=516&ncid=716

Falstaff

a nuclear conflict could undermine efforts to reinforce ties with both china's. N. Korea has successfully used stalemate for years, this is no exception.

bird chest

I am talking about something that I could not possibly know so do not take this to serious. Kim what ever his name is? in North Korea would never drop a nuke because he likes his power too much he is not going to take the chance of us taking him out. Call his bluff I say he can sit there and cry all he wants.

generalstupid

i'm running for president in the 2008 elections... PLEASE VOTE FOR ME! GENERALSTUPID AS YOUR UNITED STATES PRESIDENT! thats what we should do though, we should (at DH) elect someone for US president!

bird chest

You got my vote

The_Neon_Cowboy

opening a new topic on this what bush plan to dois isane in my book...
a last ditch efforts to buy votde u can come see what i'm talking about here


Bush seeks to give current illegal immagrents "free" citzenship, and to open borders wide..
Bush seeks to give current illegal immagrents "free" citzenship, and open borders

digerati

Oooh! I wanna run! Can I run for president too!?

BWX

I think that's BS too, and a big mistake. I don't know what he's thinking there. I still think all the other chuck-heads running are not presidential material at all, but that's what the Dem's want so that Hillary <---(anti-christ?) can run in 08'. Why else do you think she and Gore are endorsing that wishy washy Dean?
I voted for both Bush 41 and 43 and am overall pretty happy with their performance, but GW is letting some solcial issues slide that I don't agree with. I think his foreign policy is what we need at this time though, we need a strong voice in the world now, whether it's popular with the rest of the world or not. Imagine if he kowtowed to the UN like the Democrats want to do- Saddam would still be in power, taxes would be much higher and who knows what would have happened after 9/11. I'd bet any amount of money that GW will in-fact be re-elected, and I don't think it will even be close, look at the competition, there just isn't any.

Oh, tax cuts for the rich are a good thing, as well as tax cuts for the middle class- the poor don't pay any taxes anyway. The rich guys are the people who own businesses and hire people for jobs and give them benefits if they can afford it. More taxes for the rich, the less jobs there, the more middle class are unemployed and collect unemployment- are and the economy tanks. The less taxes for them, the more jobs there are, and the economy grows and the government gets more revenue through expansion and growth of the tax base. It is proven by the trend in the last year and it will only get better with less taxes. This country got where it is by low taxes and a steady growing economy- more taxes for anybody, poor, middle class OR rich always stifles growth. We are fortunate enough to live in a capitalist society that is actually very effective- I kinda would like it to stay that way, the liberal democrats would rather turn us into a socialist welfare state where everyone pays 60% tax and has to depend on the bloated broken government for everything. They already have to certain extent. Go to any government office like the lazy DMV, or incredibly inefficient post office. I think we all know how well that system works-

ok, end rant

BWX

You're WAY to mean to be president....

Rob01m

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digerati

Clever bastard lol

GutterPunk

I think the plan is good, for opening up aliens in the US but allowing people to cross i dont agree with that. We need to uncover the aliens, 14 billion dollars go back to mexico from mexican workers in American. Thats just money going back... now think of taxes... We could use these citizens taxed.