Israel should watch itself...

Yeti · Jul 11, 2002, 03:10 AM

http://www.google.com/url?sec=GE&ser...f3635862%2ehtm

Looks like someone learned a little bit from Hitler. Not the one they should have.

Raiding offices at a University? This is the last straw.

And whats next? Internment camps!!!!!!!???????

Ryoko · Jul 11, 2002, 03:15 AM

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Originally posted by Yeti
And whats next? Internment camps!!!!!!!???????

hopefully, they'll kill arafat before that has to happen. oh, and the rest of the PA.

Yeti · Jul 11, 2002, 03:45 AM

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hopefully, they'll kill arafat before that has to happen. oh, and the rest of the PA.

The hell??? Read the article please... Arafat is a saint in comparison to what is going on in israel.

Quite frankly i am tired of Israeli foreign policy. How would you like it if Canada came in an shut down New York eh? Thats just plain stupid! But it is exactly what is going on with Israel.

Not to mention the fact that Raiding a public university is just wrong!!!

The whole situation with Israel has been severely screwed up, particurlarly because of American intervention. Even Britain had the common sense to put its foot down when Isreal began its undemocratic practices in the 1960's and 70's ... but America (god i hate this part) single handedly upheld and gave power to Israel.

Israel is now abusing its power horribly. What do we do now?

digitalwanderer · Jul 11, 2002, 04:12 AM

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Israel is now abusing its power horribly. What do we do now?

What we should have done a long time ago, QUIT GIVING THEM SO MANY F-ING GUNS AND SOOOO MUCH F-ING MONEY!!!

It's one thing to have an attitude towards a neighboring country, it's another thing to have an attitude towards one with the greatest military might in the world pouring resources into you in ridiculous proportions to your size and population!!!

STOP THE MADNESS! Stop giving them unlimited support for every bloody thing they feel like doing and see how well they do on their own!

(My thoughts and mine alone, nothing to do with DH on that one. Can we keep this thread a legitimate discussion without needing it being moved to the flamezone please....)

skinlab · Jul 11, 2002, 04:14 AM

i believe israel is the party responsible for terrorrism in that region, not arafat

sharon is a butcher, and it just so happens to be his nickname. he massacres people for fun, he is a ruthless bloodthirsty monster.

Ryoko · Jul 11, 2002, 04:17 AM

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Originally posted by Yeti
The hell??? Read the article please... Arafat is a saint in comparison to what is going on in israel.

you have got to be kidding me. arafat is the palestinian equivalent of a mix between osama bin laden and jon goti

Yeti · Jul 11, 2002, 04:41 AM

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you have got to be kidding me. arafat is the palestinian equivalent of a mix between osama bin laden and jon goti

I'd like to see you back that up.

And quite frankly i'm tired of Imperialism in general. This is what long arm policies have brought us.
http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2001/465/465p15.htm

You gotta learn something: if you choose to get involved in another nations business you better be prepared for the long haul. Case in point: Vietnam... what did America do? Nothing. What could have been done? Everything.

America's involvement in the middle east first created Israel, then the palestine situation and then further generated and supported terrorism and terrorists.

These terrorists have now turned on the U.S.

Aint that a shame?

DallasStar · Jul 11, 2002, 04:51 AM

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Originally posted by Yeti
http://www.google.com/url?sec=GE&ser...f3635862%2ehtm

Looks like someone learned a little bit from Hitler. Not the one they should have.

Raiding offices at a University? This is the last straw.

And whats next? Internment camps!!!!!!!???????

I agree 100%. (Thank GOD I'm not the only one on this forum who feels this way)
I duno why, but the world, for some reason, likes to ignore Israel's ethnic cleansing and always concentrate on the wrongs of the Palestinians.

here's another story:

Two innocent civilians (father and son) were at the wrong place and the wrong time. The Israeli soldiers were shooting. The father told them to spare his son and shoot him instead (keep in mind he's just an innocent civilian). The Israeli soldier, intrigued, decided to shoot the son first so that the father would see his son die, and then the soldier shot the father.

Yeti · Jul 11, 2002, 05:40 AM

....

I wanna round off my previous statments: neither the Israelites nor the Palestinians are inherently bad, evil or wrong in any way. There are those, however, that feel hatred for one another. I doubt that these people will ever stop fighting and i am truly sad for that fact.

I do believe, however, that the political strife in the Middle East has been caused, in large part by all facets of America's participation in the Middle East.

I only hope that both the Israelites and the Palestinians don't figure that out. If they do, i am going to pray ... and i am going to run.

Malus · Jul 11, 2002, 05:42 AM

I wouldn't call it ethnic cleansing. If there were constant terrorist attacks against your country, wouldn't you want to do something about it? Attacks of terrorism occur quite frequently in Israel and it seems that they want to do something about it. If most of the attacks originate from the followers of Arafat, wouldn't you want to shut down their eduactional institutions and businesses? By doing so, it could help cut down on the funds and support they can raise in order to promote acts of terrorism. Israel isn't doing this because they hate the Palestinians, they are doing this because they Palestinians hate them.

That's my two cents.

DallasStar · Jul 11, 2002, 05:46 AM

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Originally posted by Malus
I wouldn't call it ethnic cleansing. If there were constant terrorist attacks against your country, wouldn't you want to do something about it? Attacks of terrorism occur quite frequently in Israel and it seems that they want to do something about it. If most of the attacks originate from the followers of Arafat, wouldn't you want to shut down their eduactional institutions and businesses? By doing so, it could help cut down on the funds and support they can raise in order to promote acts of terrorism. Israel isn't doing this because they hate the Palestinians, they are doing this because they Palestinians hate them.

That's my two cents.

You have to realize that this has been going on since long before hamas became a terrorist organization. The media (especially American media) doesn't feel the need to cover the entire truth

... It is the Palestinians that are retaliating against the Israelis... not the other way around. Did you just conveniently forget to realize that half their country was taken from them and that Israel has taken Jerusalem and plans to destroy two of the holiest mosques in the world?

Malus · Jul 11, 2002, 05:56 AM

So the Palestinians should blame Israel for being given their land back by another country? They should "retaliate" against Israel because some of the wise leadership in North America decided to give them their land back without asking anybody? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Israel had much to do with taking half of their land in the first place. I can see why they would want to remove the mosques, it's their land now and they can pretty much do anything to the mosques that they want. Not that I necessarily agree with that, but that's how it is.

Malus · Jul 11, 2002, 05:58 AM

I do agree with you about our media though, it really does suck. Especially for us pro-gun advocates.

Yeti · Jul 11, 2002, 06:01 AM

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So the Palestinians should blame Israel for being given their land back by another country?

Woah? Give who back what? The israelis lived there So did the christians so did the moslems.

Everyone lived there, you cant give someone BACK land that doesn't belong to them

If the Israelites wanted to live in Palestine, they could. Its that simple. If i wanna go to Washington D.C. I dont ask them to make it into my own private country.

The part about "Giving" Israel to the Israelites is what got this whole thing going.

Malus · Jul 11, 2002, 06:08 AM

I meant the institution of the country known as Israel. The nation of Israel was formed in 1949 (or something like that, I hate dates). You could say the land was given to the Jews since they are the government of the land now (well, at least that's what most countries recognize as the government). I'm probably not making any sense now and I intend to keep it that way.

Malus · Jul 11, 2002, 06:11 AM

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I see its too late now... you've been brainwashed

Have you any idea whatsoever how long ago Israel was inhabited by the Jews or how long they stayed there?

It has been thousands of years since Jews lived in that land. Not only that, they only lived there for a few hundred years!! The Muslims have inhabited that land for over a thousand years now.

Now, tell me if a man decides he will live on an island one day and then decides to move away... and then later, his great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandson one day decides he'll move back, but finds others have been living there all these thousand years and have made a prosperous civilization... would it be right for that grandchild to kill all of those people and destroy their homes and holy sites just because he feels he owns the land?

Give me a break. Why don't you just say it. You hate them because they're Muslim. It would save me from a looooooong argument that we're about to have and would make your point more clear.

WTF?

Did I say it was right? No. Don't make assumptions. That is what happened. I never said it was good, I just said that if I was in the same situation, I wouldn't argue with it. I would never argue with the most powerful countries in the world and expect to win.

I hate it when people make assumptions about me. That makes me sick.

Malus · Jul 11, 2002, 06:13 AM

Now that the land pretty much belongs to them, they are going to do whatever it takes to make sure it stays that way, whether the Palestinians like it or not. I never said it was right, I feel that is just the way it is.

DallasStar · Jul 11, 2002, 06:14 AM

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Originally posted by Malus
WTF?

Did I say it was right? No. Don't make assumptions. That is what happened. I never said it was good, I just said that if I was in the same situation, I wouldn't argue with it. I would never argue with the most powerful countries in the world and expect to win.

I hate it when people make assumptions about me. That makes me sick.

Okay, sorry. I misread your post, I guess.

Malus · Jul 11, 2002, 06:15 AM

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Originally posted by dallasstar
Give me a break. Why don't you just say it. You hate them because they're Muslim. It would save me from a looooooong argument that we're about to have and would make your point more clear.

Accusing me of being racist or the like is a very poor and immature way of arguing.

Malus · Jul 11, 2002, 06:15 AM

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Originally posted by dallasstar
Okay, sorry. I misread your post, I guess.

Ok. You didn't have to delete your post though.

DallasStar · Jul 11, 2002, 06:16 AM

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Originally posted by Malus
Ok.

I deleted the post.

Ryoko · Jul 11, 2002, 06:16 AM

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Originally posted by dallasstar
Why don't you just say it. You hate them because they're Muslim.

ok, how bout this:

i hate them because they're muslim.

true? nope.

true:

i hate them because they have no respect for peace.

that pretty much sums it up.

Malus · Jul 11, 2002, 06:18 AM

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Originally posted by Ryoko
ok, how bout this:

i hate them because they're muslim.

true? nope.

true:

i hate them because they have no respect for peace.

that pretty much sums it up.

While Israel hasn't been too peaceful either, I'd have to say that the Palestinians seem a lot more violent than the Israelis (sp?) in general.

DallasStar · Jul 11, 2002, 06:20 AM

I have to agree that they are being quite violent, but they have a right to their land... (but I don't like the way they're going about expressing it...

)

Malus · Jul 11, 2002, 06:24 AM

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Originally posted by dallasstar
I have to agree that they are being quite violent, but they have a right to their land... (but I don't like the way they're going about expressing it... )

That's the biggest problem though. How can any respect your side on the issue of the land if you constantly terrorize the other side? I think they are shooting themselves in the foot.

DallasStar · Jul 11, 2002, 06:31 AM

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Originally posted by Malus
That's the biggest problem though. How can any respect your side on the issue of the land if you constantly terrorize the other side? I think they are shooting themselves in the foot.

Heck, I don't even respect the terrorists. I'm just sad that the civilians have to get in the way

.... Also, I hate it how people make Israel to look like its the greatest bunch of little angels on the planet. That's all, I'm not saying that what Hamas does is right... I don't agree with it and I don't have respect for Hamas... but it IS all because of the Israeli occupation that it was formed and became the way it is.... How do you expect them to fight when all they have are sticks and stones? If they tried to have a proper war, America would, in some way, block all their resources and give Israel tons of money...

..if you ask me, I think they should take a good look at Ghandi and the way he helped India. That's their best option right now imo.

skinlab · Jul 11, 2002, 09:06 AM

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Originally posted by dallasstar
..if you ask me, I think they should take a good look at Ghandi and the way he helped India. That's their best option right now imo.

he was assassinated, they dont want that to happen to their leaders.
the biggest terrorrists here are the israelis, they're the one who go into people's homes, rape their women, kill their children, and then burn their houses down. what's left for the palestinians? they have nothing to live for, a suicide attack gives them the feeling that they have contributed something to their cause. im not against it, i support it. they lose a couple homes, they kill a couple 'innocent' civilians, as if the people that were in those destroyed homes arent innocent, oh wait, they're palestinians, how can they be innocent, they are, after all, the terrorrists arent they?

american media is the most biased media in the world, u can never get the facts... ever. something is always phased out, especially when it comes to the middle east, and it just so happens they support the israeli's... i wonder why.

the u.s should keep their nose out of other country's business, they wonder why everyone hates them? maybe if they changed their foreign policy, or better yet, stop butting in when they shouldnt even be there in the first place.

Yeti · Jul 11, 2002, 10:20 AM

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i hate them because they have no respect for peace.

Who are they? It is really easy to generalize but the fact is: no clearly identifiable group can be blamed for any specific crime in the Middle East. (other than the terrorists ... so they get all the blame

)

The truth is that its always either the Israeli government or the Palestinian suicide bombers. Either way you cant lay a finger on them.

So because of this i beleive that neither populace (Palestinians or Israelites) should be the subject of blame. Rather, i would comment on the actions of the most pronounced figureheads (thus not discussing the people in general).

This is what i mean when i say

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Israel should watch itself...

I am simply asserting that the Israeli leadership has gone too far. Who is responsible for this? I don't know.

~~Sourcer_2002~~ · Jul 11, 2002, 10:35 AM

I think that we should just (North American and Others) Should just let leave them alone and let them figure out. Have we ever entered a war that wasnt our fight? Yes! And what did do we do we comlicated issues more! I mean i feel sorry for those innocent people and familys that wrongful killed but they've been fighting against for each other for decades maybe longer i dont know but my point is that we should let them work thangs out!

* Gives a moment of peace to all the innocent lost*

JavaFox · Jul 11, 2002, 11:01 AM

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Originally posted by dallasstar
You have to realize that this has been going on since long before hamas became a terrorist organization. The media (especially American media) doesn't feel the need to cover the entire truth ... It is the Palestinians that are retaliating against the Israelis... not the other way around. Did you just conveniently forget to realize that half their country was taken from them and that Israel has taken Jerusalem and plans to destroy two of the holiest mosques in the world?

.

No, no, no, no, NO!

I don't care how upset you are, terrorist bombings are never right. Not in retaliation, not for freedom -- never. So long as the Palestinians continue to blow up buses and night-clubs full of civilians, they will never have international sympathy or legitimacy as a movement. They are not freedom fighters. Arafat said he would take care of Hamas.

When?

Jul 11, 2002, 03:10 AM	#1
Yeti DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 662 Rep Power: 0	Israel should watch itself... http://www.google.com/url?sec=GE&ser...f3635862%2ehtm Looks like someone learned a little bit from Hitler. Not the one they should have. Raiding offices at a University? This is the last straw. And whats next? Internment camps!!!!!!!??????? __________________ --Oh lord not again

Jul 11, 2002, 04:14 AM	#5
skinlab Got Satan? Join Date: May 2002 Location: was in Canada, now in UAE Posts: 286 Rep Power: 0	i believe israel is the party responsible for terrorrism in that region, not arafat sharon is a butcher, and it just so happens to be his nickname. he massacres people for fun, he is a ruthless bloodthirsty monster. __________________ Religion is the opiate of the masses - Marx God is dead - Nietzsche X-pider2 + Enermax 465 / P4P800-DX / 2.6C@3.25 / 1GIG XMS 4000PT/ R9800PRO / Audigy2 ZS / 80gig WD SE + 160gig Maxtor SE + 200gig Maxtor PS3100 External / Plextor Premium + BenQ DW1640 / other stuff

Jul 11, 2002, 05:40 AM	#9
Yeti DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 662 Rep Power: 0	.... I wanna round off my previous statments: neither the Israelites nor the Palestinians are inherently bad, evil or wrong in any way. There are those, however, that feel hatred for one another. I doubt that these people will ever stop fighting and i am truly sad for that fact. I do believe, however, that the political strife in the Middle East has been caused, in large part by all facets of America's participation in the Middle East. I only hope that both the Israelites and the Palestinians don't figure that out. If they do, i am going to pray ... and i am going to run. __________________ --Oh lord not again

Jul 11, 2002, 05:42 AM	#10
Malus BSD SMASH! Join Date: May 2002 Location: A rabbit hole. . . Posts: 1,170 Rep Power: 0	I wouldn't call it ethnic cleansing. If there were constant terrorist attacks against your country, wouldn't you want to do something about it? Attacks of terrorism occur quite frequently in Israel and it seems that they want to do something about it. If most of the attacks originate from the followers of Arafat, wouldn't you want to shut down their eduactional institutions and businesses? By doing so, it could help cut down on the funds and support they can raise in order to promote acts of terrorism. Israel isn't doing this because they hate the Palestinians, they are doing this because they Palestinians hate them. That's my two cents. __________________ quad (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT): Intel Q6600 - Asus P5E-VM HDMI - 2x2 GB Kingston PC6400 DDR2 Ram - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - 2xSeagate 1TB 7200RPM HD in RAID 1 via ZFS - Lite-On 20x DVD Multi Recorder - Coolermaster Centurion 5 router (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT): Intel E4500 - Intel D945GCNL - 2 GB PC6400 Mushkin Ram - Lite-On 48x24x48x16 - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - Silverstone SST-SG02-F wanderer (FreeBSD/i386 7-CURRENT): Lenovo Thinkpad T61p mini (OS X 10.5): Intel Core 2 Duo @ 1.8Ghz, 4 GB Mushkin PC5400 Ram - Headroom MicroDAC Portable sound: Rockboxed iPod Video -> Westone UM2's Not-So-Portable Sound: Headroon MicroDAC -> Singlepower PPX3-SLAM -> Grado RS-1's or Beyerdynamic DT-880's Very-Not-Portable-Sound: Squeezebox v3 -> Denon AVR-1507 -> B&W 683's & Sunfire HRS-10

Jul 11, 2002, 05:56 AM	#12
Malus BSD SMASH! Join Date: May 2002 Location: A rabbit hole. . . Posts: 1,170 Rep Power: 0	So the Palestinians should blame Israel for being given their land back by another country? They should "retaliate" against Israel because some of the wise leadership in North America decided to give them their land back without asking anybody? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Israel had much to do with taking half of their land in the first place. I can see why they would want to remove the mosques, it's their land now and they can pretty much do anything to the mosques that they want. Not that I necessarily agree with that, but that's how it is. __________________ quad (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT): Intel Q6600 - Asus P5E-VM HDMI - 2x2 GB Kingston PC6400 DDR2 Ram - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - 2xSeagate 1TB 7200RPM HD in RAID 1 via ZFS - Lite-On 20x DVD Multi Recorder - Coolermaster Centurion 5 router (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT): Intel E4500 - Intel D945GCNL - 2 GB PC6400 Mushkin Ram - Lite-On 48x24x48x16 - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - Silverstone SST-SG02-F wanderer (FreeBSD/i386 7-CURRENT): Lenovo Thinkpad T61p mini (OS X 10.5): Intel Core 2 Duo @ 1.8Ghz, 4 GB Mushkin PC5400 Ram - Headroom MicroDAC Portable sound: Rockboxed iPod Video -> Westone UM2's Not-So-Portable Sound: Headroon MicroDAC -> Singlepower PPX3-SLAM -> Grado RS-1's or Beyerdynamic DT-880's Very-Not-Portable-Sound: Squeezebox v3 -> Denon AVR-1507 -> B&W 683's & Sunfire HRS-10

Jul 11, 2002, 05:58 AM	#13
Malus BSD SMASH! Join Date: May 2002 Location: A rabbit hole. . . Posts: 1,170 Rep Power: 0	I do agree with you about our media though, it really does suck. Especially for us pro-gun advocates. __________________ quad (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT): Intel Q6600 - Asus P5E-VM HDMI - 2x2 GB Kingston PC6400 DDR2 Ram - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - 2xSeagate 1TB 7200RPM HD in RAID 1 via ZFS - Lite-On 20x DVD Multi Recorder - Coolermaster Centurion 5 router (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT): Intel E4500 - Intel D945GCNL - 2 GB PC6400 Mushkin Ram - Lite-On 48x24x48x16 - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - Silverstone SST-SG02-F wanderer (FreeBSD/i386 7-CURRENT): Lenovo Thinkpad T61p mini (OS X 10.5): Intel Core 2 Duo @ 1.8Ghz, 4 GB Mushkin PC5400 Ram - Headroom MicroDAC Portable sound: Rockboxed iPod Video -> Westone UM2's Not-So-Portable Sound: Headroon MicroDAC -> Singlepower PPX3-SLAM -> Grado RS-1's or Beyerdynamic DT-880's Very-Not-Portable-Sound: Squeezebox v3 -> Denon AVR-1507 -> B&W 683's & Sunfire HRS-10

Jul 11, 2002, 06:08 AM	#15
Malus BSD SMASH! Join Date: May 2002 Location: A rabbit hole. . . Posts: 1,170 Rep Power: 0	I meant the institution of the country known as Israel. The nation of Israel was formed in 1949 (or something like that, I hate dates). You could say the land was given to the Jews since they are the government of the land now (well, at least that's what most countries recognize as the government). I'm probably not making any sense now and I intend to keep it that way. __________________ quad (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT): Intel Q6600 - Asus P5E-VM HDMI - 2x2 GB Kingston PC6400 DDR2 Ram - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - 2xSeagate 1TB 7200RPM HD in RAID 1 via ZFS - Lite-On 20x DVD Multi Recorder - Coolermaster Centurion 5 router (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT): Intel E4500 - Intel D945GCNL - 2 GB PC6400 Mushkin Ram - Lite-On 48x24x48x16 - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - Silverstone SST-SG02-F wanderer (FreeBSD/i386 7-CURRENT): Lenovo Thinkpad T61p mini (OS X 10.5): Intel Core 2 Duo @ 1.8Ghz, 4 GB Mushkin PC5400 Ram - Headroom MicroDAC Portable sound: Rockboxed iPod Video -> Westone UM2's Not-So-Portable Sound: Headroon MicroDAC -> Singlepower PPX3-SLAM -> Grado RS-1's or Beyerdynamic DT-880's Very-Not-Portable-Sound: Squeezebox v3 -> Denon AVR-1507 -> B&W 683's & Sunfire HRS-10

Jul 11, 2002, 06:13 AM	#17
Malus BSD SMASH! Join Date: May 2002 Location: A rabbit hole. . . Posts: 1,170 Rep Power: 0	Now that the land pretty much belongs to them, they are going to do whatever it takes to make sure it stays that way, whether the Palestinians like it or not. I never said it was right, I feel that is just the way it is. __________________ quad (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT): Intel Q6600 - Asus P5E-VM HDMI - 2x2 GB Kingston PC6400 DDR2 Ram - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - 2xSeagate 1TB 7200RPM HD in RAID 1 via ZFS - Lite-On 20x DVD Multi Recorder - Coolermaster Centurion 5 router (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT): Intel E4500 - Intel D945GCNL - 2 GB PC6400 Mushkin Ram - Lite-On 48x24x48x16 - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - Silverstone SST-SG02-F wanderer (FreeBSD/i386 7-CURRENT): Lenovo Thinkpad T61p mini (OS X 10.5): Intel Core 2 Duo @ 1.8Ghz, 4 GB Mushkin PC5400 Ram - Headroom MicroDAC Portable sound: Rockboxed iPod Video -> Westone UM2's Not-So-Portable Sound: Headroon MicroDAC -> Singlepower PPX3-SLAM -> Grado RS-1's or Beyerdynamic DT-880's Very-Not-Portable-Sound: Squeezebox v3 -> Denon AVR-1507 -> B&W 683's & Sunfire HRS-10

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DallasStar Junior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wave Existence Posts: 2,065 Rep Power: 0	I have to agree that they are being quite violent, but they have a right to their land... (but I don't like the way they're going about expressing it... ) __________________ "A picture of my existence... would show a useless wooden stake covered in snow... stuck loosely at a slant in the ground in a ploughed field on the edge of a vast open plain on a dark winter night." --- Franz Kafka

Jul 11, 2002, 10:35 AM	#29
~~Sourcer_2002~~ BANNED Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Indiana , USA Posts: 2,677 Rep Power: 0	I think that we should just (North American and Others) Should just let leave them alone and let them figure out. Have we ever entered a war that wasnt our fight? Yes! And what did do we do we comlicated issues more! I mean i feel sorry for those innocent people and familys that wrongful killed but they've been fighting against for each other for decades maybe longer i dont know but my point is that we should let them work thangs out! * Gives a moment of peace to all the innocent lost*