Drug Addiction Issue

~~RE III - Frankie~~ · Sep 17, 2009, 11:38 AM

Why is it that people for whatever reason people feel that one day they need to take drugs? When they can have a positive lifestyle and have everything they need? I myself have delved into the rocky underworld of drug abuse when I was in high school, but giving it up was (I believe) to be the best thing I could have done for myself.

Going back I remember being a child secretly plotting out in my head how good it would be to take an illegal substance (I remember this quite clearly) and when it got time to do it I remember then that it made me feel so much better than the pain that had welled up inside of me all of those years in between. Is it a psychological thing? Magical? To this day I don't know. Maybe that's what I spent all my time trying to figure out in my head whether what I was doing was actually worth it.

Anyway getting off drugs was completely insane for me. My life had become the property of the dealers and they were to control me until someone could see fit to save me which eventually happened, but in a really supernatural way (as it was). But I did it and not one day has passed since that I have felt the need to go out and try it all over again. not once. I am satisfied with the control of my life and can only see it getting better as I keep going.

comp_ali · Sep 17, 2009, 12:23 PM

Good you got rid of it.

I think this would fit better in Off topic forum.

isaak · Sep 18, 2009, 06:12 AM

What type of drugs were you in to?

It's good to see you've moved on and are not looking back

GigaWatt · Sep 18, 2009, 09:42 AM

i usually don't post in the "political and religious debate" and "FWZ" subfroums, but here goes...

i can understand the hell you must have gone through to get rid of them... i myself was an addict... first recreational ones (acid, ex, amphi, weed...)... but after a while, the kick i got from using them was too small, i had to move to something stronger... and that's when i met the yellow wonder... i was stuck on it for about a year... smoking heroin was fun... get all stoned up, no worries on your mind, just the pure feeling of joy and nirvana all over your body... but thank god the first time i saw a needle i passed... if i got stuck on the needle, there would have been no turning back... luckily, i cleaned up my act in the third year of highschool... i don't even remember about a whole year of my life... where i have been, who i have met... the following years people (mostlly junkies) would greet me on the street, but i just couldn't remember where i had met them... the cleaning procee was awfull... your knees hurt, you can't sleep, you can't eat, you ache, you wish your life was over... it was a terrible experinece, wouldn't want to go through it again...

anyway... that being said, kids, stay off drugs...

dawgXdenta · Sep 18, 2009, 12:49 PM

For me we humans are designed to love, and love of such pleasures obsures true love the hunger you felt was the need to love, thats at least what I think, we are deep creatures true nirvana can be found with loving people and loving yourself, I know many people arent religious here but I think its also a need to touch something infinite & powerful and lasting that why we humans fear death even though death is a reality we must face and many times we tryn not to think about it.

Methinks we are trying vainly to reach the moon by howling at it, those cooperates who make wars for their benefit know that when they die their riches will mean nothing and their names will not be remembered by history, so why?
There is a need, a hunger and that need cannot be fulfilled by any other thing except love so long as humanity wakes up from this sleep, ours will be like wandering aimlessly in a waterless desert

dawgXdenta · Sep 18, 2009, 12:52 PM

My message and my avatar dont suit one another, scurvies pink poodle seems kinda right for how gooey lovey my msg was

GigaWatt · Sep 18, 2009, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dawgXdenta

My message and my avatar dont suit one another, scurvies pink poodle seems kinda right for how gooey lovey my msg was

hahahahahaha

... is that thing still standing on his profile... i gotta check it out...

EDIT: yeah it does.. muahhahahahahaha

OmegaRED · Sep 18, 2009, 05:09 PM

I never understood drug use either. Nowadays, every kid knows that anything from cigarettes and booze to crack will get you addicted and eventually kill you yet it doesn't stop them from trying to get some as soon as possible.

It's almost impossible to use these substances regularly and not form a life long addiction, how can anyone do drugs knowing this? Plus, who doesn't know some messed up druggie or former addict struggling to stay clean...do you want to be like them? That's what has kept me from ever doing any drugs or even smoking cigarettes and beer. I stayed away from alcohol until my 20's and even then I rarely ever drink it's just not worth it.

comp_ali · Sep 18, 2009, 05:17 PM

Glad I don't smoke any or drink.

skylineaddict · Sep 18, 2009, 11:45 PM

The main reasons for taking drugs seem to be either many teenagers' obsession with non-conformism, peer pressure, or lack of good stress-management techniques (These are of course my views and are based upon my observations of drug-abusing people that I know personally).

Psychology ultimately plays a role in everything we do, so asking that seems to be a little redundant.

I personally don't do any recreational drugs (Including smoking) other than alcohol, but even with alcohol, I hardly drink more than once a month, and that's no more than 2 or 3 drinks.

GigaWatt · Sep 19, 2009, 09:14 AM

looks like most of you don't live in countries where drinking is looked upon as sacred gift passed from generation to generation, from father to son... i drank my first can of beer when i was six... at 9, i drank my first glass of red wine... here, kids are encouraged to drink (maybe not encouraged, but certainly not stopped) even since young age, well, at least by most fathers... "c'mon son, it'll grow hair on your knuckles, you're not a real man if you don't drink" or something along those lines is usually said by your father if you don't want to drink...

actually, i was one of the few kids that didn't have a father like that, but still, i just liked the taste of alcohol... been drinking ever since, almost on a regular basis, although my stomach can't handle certain types of alcohol any more (i'm getting old LOL

)...

but i mostly drink either beer or cognac, or both the past few years, and not much, i kinda got fed up with drinking, it's the same old same old routine... get drunk, start laughing like a retard, get laid (optional), go home, start all over the next day...

that's why now i only drink when i go out on the weekend, and as i said, not too much... enough to feel the buzz, but not enough to be drunk...

~~RE III - Frankie~~ · Sep 20, 2009, 02:17 AM

The first time I smoked was when I was seven and my Dad gave me a small drag on is cigarette. Needless to say I coughed like an idiot and solemly vowed never to touch it ever in my whole life (existance). The first cigarette I had I was with a friend and we were at the docks near the beach here and the first thing I said was where have you been all my life. Pretty stupid, but I guess the moral is that to keep balance one day this could happen to you too, just not right now I guess.

dawgXdenta · Sep 20, 2009, 03:44 AM

@ omega word up for leaving the booze i stopped when I realized that I was drinking to compensate for "wanting to fit in and be comfortable among friends".
If i'm not comfy with the people I'm with already highly likely they arent my friends and besides I want to learn how to be the 'life of the party" without depending on drugs
Many people I've realized booze to let loose/ relax. Its culturally accepted ofcos
but I'd rather deal with my problems head on, whether it simply be that i'm tired on friday after work , or I wanna fit in, or i'm shy and nervous around new people I'm not gonna depend on a drug to do the work fer me

I am a man afterall goddamit

dawgXdenta · Sep 20, 2009, 03:50 AM

That was a long time ago BTW I was a kid 19-20-21 , dont know if it helped but now most times I try to keep a very positive attitude so much so that i'm the will ferrel of the group and I'm a happy idiot, thats one without the booze

GigaWatt · Sep 24, 2009, 10:05 PM

well, good to see you positive and being the life of the party dawgXdenta...

i never wanted to be the life of the party... i had a close friend of mine who was... unfortunately, he died last year (almost two yeas now)...

anyway, my advice is, don't try to be anything, just be yourself... you'd be surprised how many people will actually like that...

Tyrsonswood · Sep 24, 2009, 10:16 PM

Might be surprised how many don't like it, as well

isaak · Sep 25, 2009, 01:14 AM

I go to friends parties sometimes and have a beer (never get smashed, never been smashed). I vowed a long time ago that I thought I had to do weed once in my life...it was just one of lifes experiences for me. I am definately sure I am not addicted, and so far I have done it 3 times. I plan on giving it away when my supply empties (about 2 more times)...it doesn't do it for me. I dont see the point, and theres no point in wasting money on something that isn't really working/you don't enjoy it.

GigaWatt · Sep 25, 2009, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyrsonswood

Might be surprised how many don't like it, as well

yeah, that one is true as well... but hey, if they don't like you, why hang out with them... if i'm not wanted somewhere, i would just leave... why bother someone who doesn't like me...

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Originally Posted by isaak

I go to friends parties sometimes and have a beer (never get smashed, never been smashed). I vowed a long time ago that I thought I had to do weed once in my life...it was just one of lifes experiences for me. I am definately sure I am not addicted, and so far I have done it 3 times. I plan on giving it away when my supply empties (about 2 more times)...it doesn't do it for me. I dont see the point, and theres no point in wasting money on something that isn't really working/you don't enjoy it.

you can't get addicted to smoking weed, it's a proven fact... on the other hand, EX, amphi is a totally different story...

and if you don't enjoy it, than just don't do it...

~~RE III - Frankie~~ · Sep 25, 2009, 12:56 PM

oN MY 18TH birthday, I had a joint party with my gf. I smoked weed then and my sister busted me. She totally let out that my eyes were the give away point. Anyway at the party was a band and the guitarist let my friend and I play on the guitar and drums. I couldn't keep time, but my ex was there dancing in front of me so it was still good.

**Mousey** · Sep 28, 2009, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Why is it that people for whatever reason people feel that one day they need to take drugs? When they can have a positive lifestyle and have everything they need? I myself have delved into the rocky underworld of drug abuse when I was in high school, but giving it up was (I believe) to be the best thing I could have done for myself.

At one point i would have agreed with you, then my life went down the crapper.
I'd lost my girlfriend, i was losing my grades at school, the bullying was intensifying and on top of it all i was stressed to breaking point with upcoming results.

That's when i started smoking weed with a friend.
Gave up, oo i dunno, bout a year agoish now?

dawgXdenta · Sep 28, 2009, 04:32 PM

X)

Drugs are ok so long as they are given to you by a qualified professional and by qualified I dont mean the dealer who avoids being caught.....

I mean a doctor with a 6year degree from a reputable college or university and more importantly he shouldnt have taken drugs either...

Tyrsonswood · Sep 28, 2009, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dawgXdenta

X)

Drugs are ok so long as they are given to you by a qualified professional and by qualified I dont mean the dealer who avoids being caught.....

I mean a doctor with a 6year degree from a reputable college or university and more importantly he shouldnt have taken drugs either...

Those drugs can kill you/damage you just as easy.... maybe more so.

dawgXdenta · Sep 28, 2009, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrsonswood

Those drugs can kill you/damage you just as easy.... maybe more so.

Ahhh yes the safe and wonderful world of "FDA" coz if they arent approved by us............ ummmm ...then......
well at least let us look good fer stampin yer food & yer drugs

It might say chemically tested for safety but we pay our chemists to say that...

heres another one:
We figure nature just aint good enough fer givin us just what we need, we figured millions of years of intertwined and symbiotic evolution just wont do for todays challenges: what we need today is profits and profits fast, we cant wait fer evolution to give us our profits so we ask nature to hurry the hell up and engineer life to the mitochonria tm(now trademarked under federal licence)
Ofcourse its all tested safe and ready fer nature
"A Bound and tied scientist ": muffles some incoherent noise
market Exec smiles , gives a thumbs up

Tyrsonswood · Sep 28, 2009, 07:43 PM

FDA is owned by Big Pharma now, so it's all about profits over people, not helping people get/stay healthy. Doctors are paid (bonuses) by Big Pharma to "medicate" people whether it is the proper course or not and on multiple drugs if possible, and drug interactions is largely an unknown. (until it happens, then it's a big "oops") If side effects occur, an other drug or two will take care of that as well.

The creepy guy down on the corner seems less and less creepy these days, you know?

~~RE III - Frankie~~ · Sep 29, 2009, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyrsonswood

FDA is owned by Big Pharma now, so it's all about profits over people, not helping people get/stay healthy. Doctors are paid (bonuses) by Big Pharma to "medicate" people whether it is the proper course or not and on multiple drugs if possible, and drug interactions is largely an unknown. (until it happens, then it's a big "oops") If side effects occur, an other drug or two will take care of that as well.

The creepy guy down on the corner seems less and less creepy these days, you know?

That all depends on whether the guy whom you refer to "has" an opinion on governement matters which chances are "he doesn't" so it's very good that he's all doped up to stay away from little girls and boys.

Sep 17, 2009, 11:38 AM	#1
~~RE III - Frankie~~ BANNED Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Castle Mansion Paradise 113 Posts: 1,200 Rep Power: 0	Drug Addiction Issue Why is it that people for whatever reason people feel that one day they need to take drugs? When they can have a positive lifestyle and have everything they need? I myself have delved into the rocky underworld of drug abuse when I was in high school, but giving it up was (I believe) to be the best thing I could have done for myself. Going back I remember being a child secretly plotting out in my head how good it would be to take an illegal substance (I remember this quite clearly) and when it got time to do it I remember then that it made me feel so much better than the pain that had welled up inside of me all of those years in between. Is it a psychological thing? Magical? To this day I don't know. Maybe that's what I spent all my time trying to figure out in my head whether what I was doing was actually worth it. Anyway getting off drugs was completely insane for me. My life had become the property of the dealers and they were to control me until someone could see fit to save me which eventually happened, but in a really supernatural way (as it was). But I did it and not one day has passed since that I have felt the need to go out and try it all over again. not once. I am satisfied with the control of my life and can only see it getting better as I keep going.

Sep 17, 2009, 12:23 PM	#2
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 3,678 Rep Power: 98 System Specs	Re: Drug Addiction Issue Good you got rid of it. I think this would fit better in Off topic forum. __________________ "It is doubtful how DRM could reduce piracy and there no way it can boost games sales either"

Sep 18, 2009, 06:12 AM	#3
isaak DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 914 Rep Power: 23 System Specs	Re: Drug Addiction Issue What type of drugs were you in to? It's good to see you've moved on and are not looking back __________________

Sep 18, 2009, 09:42 AM	#4
GigaWatt Now In Color :D Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonia, Skopje Posts: 2,073 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	Re: Drug Addiction Issue i usually don't post in the "political and religious debate" and "FWZ" subfroums, but here goes... i can understand the hell you must have gone through to get rid of them... i myself was an addict... first recreational ones (acid, ex, amphi, weed...)... but after a while, the kick i got from using them was too small, i had to move to something stronger... and that's when i met the yellow wonder... i was stuck on it for about a year... smoking heroin was fun... get all stoned up, no worries on your mind, just the pure feeling of joy and nirvana all over your body... but thank god the first time i saw a needle i passed... if i got stuck on the needle, there would have been no turning back... luckily, i cleaned up my act in the third year of highschool... i don't even remember about a whole year of my life... where i have been, who i have met... the following years people (mostlly junkies) would greet me on the street, but i just couldn't remember where i had met them... the cleaning procee was awfull... your knees hurt, you can't sleep, you can't eat, you ache, you wish your life was over... it was a terrible experinece, wouldn't want to go through it again... anyway... that being said, kids, stay off drugs... __________________ It's not schisophrenia... it's just a voice in my head...

Sep 18, 2009, 12:49 PM	#5
dawgXdenta DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Gabz Posts: 1,369 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	Re: Drug Addiction Issue For me we humans are designed to love, and love of such pleasures obsures true love the hunger you felt was the need to love, thats at least what I think, we are deep creatures true nirvana can be found with loving people and loving yourself, I know many people arent religious here but I think its also a need to touch something infinite & powerful and lasting that why we humans fear death even though death is a reality we must face and many times we tryn not to think about it. Methinks we are trying vainly to reach the moon by howling at it, those cooperates who make wars for their benefit know that when they die their riches will mean nothing and their names will not be remembered by history, so why? There is a need, a hunger and that need cannot be fulfilled by any other thing except love so long as humanity wakes up from this sleep, ours will be like wandering aimlessly in a waterless desert __________________ "I just want to make sure that this sensation really is hunger before i go and eat... " Emma Obita You Tube

Sep 18, 2009, 12:52 PM	#6
dawgXdenta DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Gabz Posts: 1,369 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	Re: Drug Addiction Issue My message and my avatar dont suit one another, scurvies pink poodle seems kinda right for how gooey lovey my msg was __________________ "I just want to make sure that this sensation really is hunger before i go and eat... " Emma Obita You Tube

Sep 18, 2009, 05:09 PM	#8
OmegaRED In Fedor We Trust Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa , Canada Posts: 4,785 Rep Power: 84 System Specs	Re: Drug Addiction Issue I never understood drug use either. Nowadays, every kid knows that anything from cigarettes and booze to crack will get you addicted and eventually kill you yet it doesn't stop them from trying to get some as soon as possible. It's almost impossible to use these substances regularly and not form a life long addiction, how can anyone do drugs knowing this? Plus, who doesn't know some messed up druggie or former addict struggling to stay clean...do you want to be like them? That's what has kept me from ever doing any drugs or even smoking cigarettes and beer. I stayed away from alcohol until my 20's and even then I rarely ever drink it's just not worth it. __________________

Sep 18, 2009, 05:17 PM	#9
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 3,678 Rep Power: 98 System Specs	Re: Drug Addiction Issue Glad I don't smoke any or drink. __________________ "It is doubtful how DRM could reduce piracy and there no way it can boost games sales either"

Sep 18, 2009, 11:45 PM	#10
skylineaddict DH's Laziest Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 356 Rep Power: 38 System Specs	Re: Drug Addiction Issue The main reasons for taking drugs seem to be either many teenagers' obsession with non-conformism, peer pressure, or lack of good stress-management techniques (These are of course my views and are based upon my observations of drug-abusing people that I know personally). Psychology ultimately plays a role in everything we do, so asking that seems to be a little redundant. I personally don't do any recreational drugs (Including smoking) other than alcohol, but even with alcohol, I hardly drink more than once a month, and that's no more than 2 or 3 drinks. __________________ My Youtube Channel: My time lapse videos. I suggest you watch my videos!!!

Sep 19, 2009, 09:14 AM	#11
GigaWatt Now In Color :D Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonia, Skopje Posts: 2,073 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	Re: Drug Addiction Issue looks like most of you don't live in countries where drinking is looked upon as sacred gift passed from generation to generation, from father to son... i drank my first can of beer when i was six... at 9, i drank my first glass of red wine... here, kids are encouraged to drink (maybe not encouraged, but certainly not stopped) even since young age, well, at least by most fathers... "c'mon son, it'll grow hair on your knuckles, you're not a real man if you don't drink" or something along those lines is usually said by your father if you don't want to drink... actually, i was one of the few kids that didn't have a father like that, but still, i just liked the taste of alcohol... been drinking ever since, almost on a regular basis, although my stomach can't handle certain types of alcohol any more (i'm getting old LOL )... but i mostly drink either beer or cognac, or both the past few years, and not much, i kinda got fed up with drinking, it's the same old same old routine... get drunk, start laughing like a retard, get laid (optional), go home, start all over the next day... that's why now i only drink when i go out on the weekend, and as i said, not too much... enough to feel the buzz, but not enough to be drunk... __________________ It's not schisophrenia... it's just a voice in my head...

Sep 20, 2009, 02:17 AM	#12
~~RE III - Frankie~~ BANNED Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Castle Mansion Paradise 113 Posts: 1,200 Rep Power: 0	Re: Drug Addiction Issue The first time I smoked was when I was seven and my Dad gave me a small drag on is cigarette. Needless to say I coughed like an idiot and solemly vowed never to touch it ever in my whole life (existance). The first cigarette I had I was with a friend and we were at the docks near the beach here and the first thing I said was where have you been all my life. Pretty stupid, but I guess the moral is that to keep balance one day this could happen to you too, just not right now I guess.

Sep 20, 2009, 03:44 AM	#13
dawgXdenta DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Gabz Posts: 1,369 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	Re: Drug Addiction Issue @ omega word up for leaving the booze i stopped when I realized that I was drinking to compensate for "wanting to fit in and be comfortable among friends". If i'm not comfy with the people I'm with already highly likely they arent my friends and besides I want to learn how to be the 'life of the party" without depending on drugs Many people I've realized booze to let loose/ relax. Its culturally accepted ofcos but I'd rather deal with my problems head on, whether it simply be that i'm tired on friday after work , or I wanna fit in, or i'm shy and nervous around new people I'm not gonna depend on a drug to do the work fer me I am a man afterall goddamit __________________ "I just want to make sure that this sensation really is hunger before i go and eat... " Emma Obita You Tube

Sep 20, 2009, 03:50 AM	#14
dawgXdenta DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Gabz Posts: 1,369 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	Re: Drug Addiction Issue That was a long time ago BTW I was a kid 19-20-21 , dont know if it helped but now most times I try to keep a very positive attitude so much so that i'm the will ferrel of the group and I'm a happy idiot, thats one without the booze __________________ "I just want to make sure that this sensation really is hunger before i go and eat... " Emma Obita You Tube

Sep 24, 2009, 10:05 PM	#15
GigaWatt Now In Color :D Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonia, Skopje Posts: 2,073 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	Re: Drug Addiction Issue well, good to see you positive and being the life of the party dawgXdenta... i never wanted to be the life of the party... i had a close friend of mine who was... unfortunately, he died last year (almost two yeas now)... anyway, my advice is, don't try to be anything, just be yourself... you'd be surprised how many people will actually like that... __________________ It's not schisophrenia... it's just a voice in my head...

Sep 25, 2009, 01:14 AM	#17
isaak DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 914 Rep Power: 23 System Specs	Re: Drug Addiction Issue I go to friends parties sometimes and have a beer (never get smashed, never been smashed). I vowed a long time ago that I thought I had to do weed once in my life...it was just one of lifes experiences for me. I am definately sure I am not addicted, and so far I have done it 3 times. I plan on giving it away when my supply empties (about 2 more times)...it doesn't do it for me. I dont see the point, and theres no point in wasting money on something that isn't really working/you don't enjoy it. __________________

Sep 25, 2009, 12:56 PM	#19
~~RE III - Frankie~~ BANNED Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Castle Mansion Paradise 113 Posts: 1,200 Rep Power: 0	Re: Drug Addiction Issue oN MY 18TH birthday, I had a joint party with my gf. I smoked weed then and my sister busted me. She totally let out that my eyes were the give away point. Anyway at the party was a band and the guitarist let my friend and I play on the guitar and drums. I couldn't keep time, but my ex was there dancing in front of me so it was still good.

Sep 28, 2009, 04:32 PM	#21
dawgXdenta DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Gabz Posts: 1,369 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	Re: Drug Addiction Issue X) Drugs are ok so long as they are given to you by a qualified professional and by qualified I dont mean the dealer who avoids being caught..... I mean a doctor with a 6year degree from a reputable college or university and more importantly he shouldnt have taken drugs either... __________________ "I just want to make sure that this sensation really is hunger before i go and eat... " Emma Obita You Tube