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Old May 4, 2008, 03:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
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"Opinion: Why Israel can't survive"
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Sixty years on, the country is facing a choice of two futures: it can be Jewish or democratic - but not both
Why Israel can't survive : Canada : News : Sympatico / MSN
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Old May 4, 2008, 03:38 AM   #2 (permalink)
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As far as I know the state of Israel is democratic state. So that quote isn't so accurate that I would hope from journalist.
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Old May 4, 2008, 05:02 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Theocracy bad...democracy good...
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Old May 4, 2008, 05:04 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Theocracy bad...democracy good...
Theocracy has worked in Tibet but I think that their system was the only one that worked fine.
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Old May 4, 2008, 05:48 AM   #5 (permalink)
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A long, serious article on the subject. I'm impressed.

There are of course degrees of democracy, like in ancient Greece or old South Africa. I wouldn't call either of those democratic states in a modern sense and todays Israel is not far from the Apartheid state. I'd also argue that the one state that breaks the most international laws and defies all UN resolutions might not be fit to be called a modern democracy.
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Old May 4, 2008, 05:57 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Mkk@ Does Hezbollah or Hamas follow the UN rules??? They have been doing strikes to Israel out side of Israel borders. Anyway this mess stared back when the Brits gave up their mandate for Palestine. There was reasonable plan for the land distribution for the Jewish people and the Muslims but the Arabs didn't play ball.

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So if we would go by all the international laws then there should be war in there. And we all know that modern warfare is what it is.
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Old May 4, 2008, 06:02 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Lol, sorry man but I'll stick to the topic. ;)

I believe a two state solution could still work even if the recent years of talk in one direction and actions in another has certainly put peoples expectations on that down a lot, which might of course fit the plans or wishes of the military.
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Lol, sorry man but I'll stick to the topic.
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I believe a two state solution could still work even if the recent years of talk in one direction and actions in another has certainly put peoples expectations on that down a lot, which might of course fit the plans or wishes of the military.
Yeah I believe in that too. But both sides should be talking and not fighting....
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does the United States stick to UN rules?
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As far as I know the state of Israel is democratic state. So that quote isn't so accurate that I would hope from journalist.
It's as democratic as the soviet union was. 99.9% of people voted with AKs on their heads and there was only 1 candidate to choose from.
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It's as democratic as the soviet union was. 99.9% of people voted with AKs on their heads and there was only 1 candidate to choose from.
Err... Why there are many political parties in Israel??
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Old May 5, 2008, 06:20 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Yes why and Israel won't survive because God cursed it at the end of the old testament.
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Old May 5, 2008, 07:25 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Yes why and Israel won't survive because God cursed it at the end of the old testament.
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does the United States stick to UN rules?
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im pretty sure we do since WE created the idea of the UN at the end of WWI...

who was president back then again? Wilson?
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im pretty sure we do since WE created the idea of the UN at the end of WWI...

who was president back then again? Wilson?
Was it not Franklin D. Roosevelt and Winston Churchill that came up with the term United Nations...?
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