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How to kill an American (what to look for)

Written by an Australian Dentist....and too good to delete....

To Kill an American
You probably missed this in the rush of news, but there was actually a report that someone in Pakistan had published in a newspaper, an offer of a reward to anyone who killed an American, any American.

So an Australian dentist wrote an editorial the following day to let everyone know what an American is . So they would know when they found one. (Good one, mate!!!!)


"An American is English, or French, or Italian, Irish, German, Spanish, Polish, Russian or Greek. An American may also be Canadian, Mexican, African, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Australian, Iranian, Asian, or Arab, or Pakistani o r Afghan.


An American may also be a Comanche, Cherokee, Osage, Blackfoot, Navaho, Apache, Seminole or one of the many other trib es known as native Americans.


An American is Christian, or he could be Jewish, or Buddhist, or Muslim. In fact, there are more Muslims in A merica than in AfghanistanThe only difference is that in America they are free to worship as each of them chooses.


An American is also free to believe in no religion. For that he will answer only to God, not to the government, or to armed thugs claiming to speak for the government and for God.


An American lives in the most prosperous land in the history of the world.


The root of that prosperity can be found in the Declaration of Independence , which recognizes the God given right of each person to the pursuit of happiness.


An American is generous. Americans have helped out just about every other na tion in the world in their time of need, never asking a thing in return.


When Afghanistan was over-run by the Soviet army 20 years ago, Americans came with arms and supplies to enable the people to win back their country!


As of the morning of September 11, Americans had given more than any other nation to the poor in Afghanistan. Americans welcome the best of everything...the best products, the best books, the best music, the best food, the best services. But they also welcome the least.


The national symbol of America , The Statue of Liberty , welcomes your tired and your poor, the wretched refuse of your teeming shores, the homeless, tempest tossed. These in fact are the people w ho built America


Some of them wer e working in the Twin Towers the morning of September 11, 2001 earning a better life for their families. It's been told that the World Trade Center victims were from at least 30 different countries, cultures, and first languages, including those that aided and abetted the terrorists.

So you can try to kill an American if you must. Hitler did. So did General Tojo, and Stalin, and Mao Tse-Tung, and other blood-thirsty tyrants in the world. But, in doing so you would just be killing yourself . Because Americans are not a particular people from a particular place. They are the embodiment of the human spirit of freedom. Everyone who holds to that spirit, everywhere, is an American.


I thought that was profound so I posted it here.
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Old Apr 24, 2008, 04:09 AM   #2 (permalink)
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sorry falstaff but that was written by an american the bias towards america being the best and the greatest

the Australian Dentist story is a myth no one but an American would have written such a pro america piece , in the world at the moment america is pretty much hated and funnily enough this is best shown in Alan Shore's speeches normally at the end of Boston Legal he nails it every time several times he has pondered how the world looks at america and everytime i find i agree

other times though he does state what is wrong with america and how it could be fixed and funnily i agree with that too

anyway check out Break the Chain and Snopes it was written by a Law Proffesor in Viginia

Urban Legends Reference Pages: What Is An American?

Australian Dentist Describes What An American Is? - BreakTheChain.org

the UK doesnt look at America like that at all in fact respect for America seems to have fallen in the last few years
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Old Apr 24, 2008, 06:01 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I dunno it might be true since dentists have access to some damn funny substances.
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sorry falstaff but that was written by an american the bias towards america being the best and the greatest

the Australian Dentist story is a myth no one but an American would have written such a pro america piece , in the world at the moment america is pretty much hated and funnily enough this is best shown in Alan Shore's speeches normally at the end of Boston Legal he nails it every time several times he has pondered how the world looks at america and everytime i find i agree

other times though he does state what is wrong with america and how it could be fixed and funnily i agree with that too

anyway check out Break the Chain and Snopes it was written by a Law Proffesor in Viginia

Urban Legends Reference Pages: What Is An American?

Australian Dentist Describes What An American Is? - BreakTheChain.org

the UK doesnt look at America like that at all in fact respect for America seems to have fallen in the last few years
It was written in spite of the fact that the world finds or may find any country unpopular, but the story about a Pakistani ad offering a reward for killing Americans is undeniable.
America like many other free nations is justifiably proud of many things, including their heritage. Like GB, America is made up and is continuously influenced by an influx of immigrants from all over the world. I dont want Americans to forget that being American means being tolerant and embracing other cultures, nations and belief systems without losing any of it's American identity. However any nation percieves America, there is no reason for anyone to persecute Americans, nor Americans to persecute other nations that respect our place in the world.
People from all over the world, including Americans lose sight of the fact that one day there will be one Nation call Earth, not just individual countries. Killing anyone from any nation is still killing a brother or a sister of the family of man.
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I dunno it might be true since dentists have access to some damn funny substances.
It is more likely that he is someone with access to so many damn funny substances that they actually made him believe that he is a dentist...

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Oh stop...
the thread had some meaning until it spiraled away....
such is life...
you guys are terrible..
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sorry Falstaff i didnt mean to rain on your parade but i think you will find that the world isnt that "pro america" at the moment if you had posted that 6 years ago you probably would have 500+ replies all praising that message as it is you have had Half a Dozen or so and none of them really agree and some just take the mick

Most people just dont care one way or the other at the moment

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sorry Falstaff i didnt mean to rain on your parade but i think you will find that the world isnt that "pro america" at the moment if you had posted that 6 years ago you probably would have 500+ replies all praising that message as it is you have had Half a Dozen or so and none of them really agree and some just take the mick

Most people just dont care one way or the other at the moment

sorry
its not about being pro anything really...
its about patriotism and national identity...
like a tele program about being a Brit
come to find out, the most "British" of many poeple
interviewed were decended recently from immigrants
when cultures or people or countries are attacked
it either makes martyrs or victims or combatents out of
the dead, but in reality it is you could substitute almost any
country for the USA and make similiar statements about
being attacked, albeit the 9/11 incident stirred national feelings
within people that lay dormant and others were equally aroused
to action. The US had no problem bringing its enormous mailed fist
down upon not one but to several countries to destroy or suppress
our adversaries. The speed and ferocity of the US response was
calculated already by their adversaries.
It doesnt take a political scientist to see that this has occured many times
in the past, and with great affect. America is a great sleeping bear
sometimes that reacts very violently to attack.
Its a little sophmoric to think that it was merely one to two provocations
to make the USA do this, but imagine any great power, suddenly bringing
its military resources to bear on a problem that might require a little more
inspection and examination before swords and shields are rattled.
Every time I see that America or any country is attacked, I know that
a little later on down the road, the repercussions will be out of proportion
to the original attack (if you will).
The post was interesting in many ways, but the not the first I have seen, and not meant to be so superficial as to be a flag waving oppurtunity.
Rather look beyond this, for within the conservative thinking majority of the US is smoldering the desire to rise again and smite all of the enemies of the state.
The next president of the US might very well be elected to approximately this one thing.
Just food for thought, but it takes a great deal to wake the bear, but once it is awakened there will be hell to pay for everyone.
I wonder if we are not mortgaging the future of our children away as we unleash the dogs of war to rip the flesh from other nations.
I have grand children, and I have a different perspective than I did years ago, when I sat off the coast of IRAQ and launch 32 Tomohawk missles into space and only half reached their intended targets. Imagine how the crew felt when we learned that some of the warheads exploded into residential areas of the city killing women or children.
What is acceptable to the state? When is it okay to crush a nation and destroy its government? Toppling regimes and going to war seems to be the legacy of this country, great or gruesome.
I am perfectly aware of the image of the US in the world, that is where I work and I sit elbow to elbow with warriors, wenches and peaceful people too, and they all wonder why we have to go to war all the time.
Its about one world, one people and the hope for the planet.
Its about peace, not religion, and freedom, not oppresion, and its about the future of our children. You can wave all the flags and martyr all the people you want, but when the show is over, our bretheren and our kids have to clean it up, roll us into our graves and they dont give a damn about all the political crap, they just want to live.
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Where I'm from the overall mood as I'd call it is no longer pro American.
I don't deny the fact that the US have had reasons to take up arms in the case of the 9/11 attack , but not really in the Iraq issue.
Yes, a large country has dangerous enemies for obvious reasons. My country was never all that great for existing at a crossroad between super powers at their respective times. For the mere fact that the Otoman Empire wanted to conquer Central Europe they first attacked us cause we would have become dangerous adversaries if we had teamed up with western nations against them, by blocking supply routes etc.
This somewhat simple example however illustrates a different principle. It makes me think of the less obvious reasons for the US governments decisions regarding foreign politics.
And what's with all this propaganda about the "enemies of the free world"?
America isn't the only democratic country
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its not about being pro anything really...
its about patriotism and national identity...
Your saying that first post wasnt pro america .. im sorry but that really is the way it reads Sorry

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like a tele program about being a Brit
come to find out, the most "British" of many poeple
interviewed were decended recently from immigrants
when cultures or people or countries are attacked
it either makes martyrs or victims or combatents out of
the dead
i have reread that three times and i am still struggeling to understanding what you mean (not being personal m8 but try using some Paragraphs , Full Stops and proper spacing) do you mean you watched a program recently about being a Brit

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enormous mailed fist
America is a great sleeping bear
before swords and shields are rattled.
the desire to rise again and smite all of the enemies of the state.
but it takes a great deal to wake the bear, but once it is awakened there will be hell to pay for everyone.
I wonder if we are not mortgaging the future of our children away as we unleash the dogs of war to rip the flesh from other nations.
Again im sorry to be funy but do you really talk like that in conversation , if you have a point to make keep it simple wrapping it up in Soundbites doesnt help you sell your viewpoint

TBH your post sounds more like a speech than an opinion something that i would get in an email with the usual "read this then mail it to 5 friends" type of thing

but to say that the first post isnt pro anything ... cmon m8 be serious

anyway i feel like im having ago at you personally at the moment ( i am not trying too) so i will stop here
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Your saying that first post wasnt pro america .. im sorry but that really is the way it reads Sorry



i have reread that three times and i am still struggeling to understanding what you mean (not being personal m8 but try using some Paragraphs , Full Stops and proper spacing) do you mean you watched a program recently about being a Brit



Again im sorry to be funy but do you really talk like that in conversation , if you have a point to make keep it simple wrapping it up in Soundbites doesnt help you sell your viewpoint

TBH your post sounds more like a speech than an opinion something that i would get in an email with the usual "read this then mail it to 5 friends" type of thing

but to say that the first post isnt pro anything ... cmon m8 be serious

anyway i feel like im having ago at you personally at the moment ( i am not trying too) so i will stop here

you are having a go at me personally, Its no doubt part of your character, but I can accept that. And yes, I do talk like that, you dont like America or Americans or no biggie, but if you disagree then fine, maybe you dont debate or you have a different agenda, mine isnt confusing to me, but in the language that I understand and use daily America is characterized in quite a few ways that are niether complementary or kind, and my point is clear enough. Your avatar looks suspciously similiar to someone else that I have seen before but I wont let that color my future statements.
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