U.S after war history.

Falstaff · May 18, 2003, 12:57 PM

I think DESMO meant it....lets turn back the clock, restore the prairie back to it's original state, restore the native american lands, restore the pristine wilderness....."never happen"

mike2h · May 18, 2003, 01:18 PM

yeh i figured that. i do not like what the human race is doing to this planet either. but like you said ....."never happen"! and i also like my toys. kind of a contradiction there but that is the kind of guy i am!

Falstaff · May 18, 2003, 01:43 PM

Ideology is a little scary, politics, economics, no prob...but ideology really takes people to their own value systems, heady stuff...like philosophy, one mans truth is another mans bullcrap...Gog has his own truth, gotta respect that, to be fair, just don't agree. but I lived in Europe and came face to face as a teenager with bias against americans, from the damn french, but met some cool ones too. I try to remain open minded...but what scares me is the economy, if Bush can't pull this one out of the fire, he won't get reelected, now that might not worry lots of people, but he has the ball in his court now...time to send it back over the net..get the economy straigtened out even if it takes 4 more years..

mike2h · May 18, 2003, 02:14 PM

agree, except for the gog part. can not respect somebody whose only function seems to be ripping somebody elses country & soldiers with lies & innuendo.

desmo · May 19, 2003, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mike2h
hope you are being funny, otherwise, bye!

I was serious.

~~SH4President~~ · May 19, 2003, 04:31 PM

Lets praise the brave and great nation that dropped the bomb on Nagasaki.
Heil USA.
Sieg ....
Seig ....
Seig ....

mike2h · May 19, 2003, 04:38 PM

hey look! saddam is back!

mike2h · May 19, 2003, 05:02 PM

sounds like that hitler special last nite got you all nostalgic.

digerati · May 19, 2003, 05:38 PM

Not only is he back but he didn't get any smarter at all! Praise idiocy in all it's glory as SH4 flaunts it proudly!

~~SH4President~~ · May 19, 2003, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ^_^
Not only is he back but he didn't get any smarter at all! Praise idiocy in all it's glory as SH4 flaunts it proudly!

U.S after war history.

I thought I might give you pro-Americans a quick rundown how the US have helped the world the last 50 years.

1953: U.S. overthrows Prime Minister Mossadeq of Iran. U.S. installs Shah as dictator.

1954: U.S overthrows democratically-elected President Arbenz of Guatemala. 200 000 civilians killed.

1963: U.S backs assassination of South Vietnamese President Diem.

1963-1975: American military kills 4 million people in southeast Asia.

Sept 11 1973: U.S stages coup in Chile. Democatically-elected President Salvador Allende assassinated. Dictator Augosto Pinochet installed.
5000 Chileans murdered.

1977: U.S backs military rulers of El Salvador. 70 000 Salvadorians killed.

1980: U.S trains Osama bin Laden and fellow terrorists to kill Soviets. CIA gives them $3 billion.

1981: Reagan administration trains and founds "contras". 30 000 Nicaraguans die.

1982: U.S provides billions in aid to Saddam Hussein for weapons to kill Iranians.

1983: White House secretly gives Iran weapons to kill Iraqis.

1989: CIA agent Manuel Noriega(also serving as President of Panama) disobeys orders from Washington. U.S invade Panama and removes
Noriega. 3000 Panamanians civilian casualties.

1990: Iraq invade Kuwait with weapons from U.S

1991: U.S enters Iraq. Bush reinstates dictator of Kuwait.

1998: Clinton bombs "weapons factory" in Sudan. Factory turns out to be making aspirin.

1991 and forward: UN estimates 500 000 Iraqi children have died from bombing and sanctions( this all before the war.)

2000-01: U.S gives Taliban-ruled Afghanistan $245 million in "aid".

Sept. 11 2001: Osama bin Laden uses his expert CIA training to murder 3000 people.

Heil the brave people of the USA.

mike2h · May 19, 2003, 06:22 PM

hey, saddam/hitler some of those things actually happened. not quite the way you put it but that is okay, must give people with obvious limitations all the help we can. now why dont you run of like a good little fella & get the big boys some links to support all that. there you go . off with you now

Falstaff · May 19, 2003, 08:19 PM

Another drive by post, he just likes using a whole clip, ha ha..

digerati · May 19, 2003, 11:11 PM

Can we ban him pretty please with a cherry on top of a whip cream mountain?

Falstaff · May 19, 2003, 11:49 PM

SH4president....makes this all interesting...sit in a cafe in Crete, an island in the Med. you will hear the waiter bitch and moan about the damn americans, and take their dollars just the same. Or in Haifa, they will take your money and complain about U.S. influence in the Middle East. He is entitled to be an A**hole just like everyone else, ha ha....just wish he would make more sense.. ha ha....opps ....Voyager is on..gotta go

Falstaff · May 20, 2003, 12:37 AM

1953...Shah is installed in Iran, a friend to the USA and a proponent of change in IRAQ...his legacy lives on even in the fundamentalist government in power now.

1954...President Arbenz was corrupt, his death squads ruled the nation of Guatuamala. his time had come. we are still finding the bodies in the jungles even now...the jaguar god has his revenge..

1963..We never backed the assasination of Diem, but were powerless to stop the coup..No one wanted a Catholic ruler in Vietnam, and his removal accelerated the change...while buddhists burned..

Vietnam War....a vehicle for change by the people who fled and remained in Vietnam. A tragedy, a pit that countless bodies fell into on both sides..thanks to the French..and years of colonial rule..

1973...Pinochet....we didn't have a damn thing to do with him...where the hell do you get this crap...

1977..secret funds and weapons diverted to support rebels in this country, nothing new, El Salvador had been a killing field long before we got there...for almost 2000 years..people have been killing each other in this area..old tribal disputes. economic disputes and criminals bent on maintain control of the drug trade..

1980?...no my friend...1979...we were recruited by Osama Bin Laden, he needed our weapons and support because he knew he needed to embrace the infidel to obtain more power and he sold the arms he recieved, and began to sincerely threaten non muslims all over the world...He made his bones in Afghanistan..but he didn't give a damn about that country...Saudi Arabia is the home of his family. he will bring his twisted and dark muslim fundamentalism back home...and it will fester as it does now...

1980...Reagan never found the Contra's. never endorsed their ideology, didn't know where the money was really going.....to support guerrilas that were smuggling dope...your pulling this one out of your ass.

1981..Hussien needs weapons., the soviets were ready to gain the upper hand. Saddam is a Stalinist and would rather find his warm bed with his russian bed fellows...but we have a better idea. A bad idea, but we took a risk...and it backfired.

1983...The Whitehouse didn't authorise the Hawk missles...nope...some Marine Corp Officer with a hair up his ass took the fall for that one..The trail doesn't end there, but he screwed up, and he paid the price..

1989...Noriega was a loose cannon, needed to be throttled, we could have done this all within the measure of a covert strike, but we needed support, needed legitimacy, we could have taken him out at any time..but we waited....enter Colin Powell..

1990...with weapons from the former soviet republics and N. Korea and France...yes France, IRAQ invaded Kuwait..Even my history is pretty damn sharp on this one...I was there...long before you were born...

1991...Kuwait reinstalls the ruler of that country...and restores the country to it's rightful place in OPEC..
(even I couldn't resist pointing out....your making this crap up SH4president)

1998...President (cant get enough pootang) Clinton...really screws up, acts on bad information and lets Bin Laden slip past...now we all pay for that one..

AND THE IRAQI CHILDREN? come on man....Hussien has palaces, drains swamps, amases cash and gold and his children die...and the killing field...please be realistic...you couldn't have missed this one.

2000 to the present...Afghanistan isn't blowing up anchient relics anymore , but is allowing experts and volunteers to help them rebuild their infrastructure..but the Talibun murdered most of the intellectual flame from their candles..it will take time..Afghanistan will shine again one day...

9/11....Now you have really blown this one out your rectum...into a large fan...and you have covered yourself with the steaming excrement of your argument....We did not train these men to kill Americans....just like a gun, these men seized control...turned the airplanes into weapons and pointed them into buildings...and then they became martyrs for their cause.....nothing more than that..and now our president is bringing fire and brimstone upon these men, these conspirators, these twisted and scarred fugitives from planet earth, that cling to anger and fear and their faith..one by one...like ducks in a shooting gallery...they will fall...

AS YOU SOW.....SO SHALL YOU REAP...

Yes "hail" the brave americans and those that suffer and struggle daily, to come to terms with the hatred fostered by religious fundamentalists..
I discount your reference to "DAS RIECH" and Adolph Hitler....unless you have read Mien Kampf...
I don't recommend it, but it is a window into the soul of a meglomaniac....
perhaps reading it will spark some kind of ephiphony....or insight...

digerati · May 20, 2003, 01:02 AM

But there's a difference between an @$$hole and a guy who makes up stuff. I mean it's one thing to be one sided but to just throw out stuff like that is slanderous.

EDIT:

BTW thanks for putting a single celled organism who can somehow type in his place.

mike2h · May 20, 2003, 01:05 AM

YOU DA MAN! unfortunatley i think it is going to go into you-know-whos brain swirl around in all the shit in there & get flushed out with any other thought that might have some intelligence behind it.
good post

Falstaff · May 20, 2003, 02:08 AM

to clear the mind of anyone full of intellectual excrement, ha ha..let's just hope he wipes his intellectual butt with something that won't make him smell like the pre-excremental information he ingested...

~~SH4President~~ · May 20, 2003, 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fallang_jeff
1953...Shah is installed in Iran, a friend to the USA and a proponent of change in IRAQ...his legacy lives on even in the fundamentalist government in power now.

1954...President Arbenz was corrupt, his death squads ruled the nation of Guatuamala. his time had come. we are still finding the bodies in the jungles even now...the jaguar god has his revenge..

1963..We never backed the assasination of Diem, but were powerless to stop the coup..No one wanted a Catholic ruler in Vietnam, and his removal accelerated the change...while buddhists burned..

Vietnam War....a vehicle for change by the people who fled and remained in Vietnam. A tragedy, a pit that countless bodies fell into on both sides..thanks to the French..and years of colonial rule..

1973...Pinochet....we didn't have a damn thing to do with him...where the hell do you get this crap...

1977..secret funds and weapons diverted to support rebels in this country, nothing new, El Salvador had been a killing field long before we got there...for almost 2000 years..people have been killing each other in this area..old tribal disputes. economic disputes and criminals bent on maintain control of the drug trade..

1980?...no my friend...1979...we were recruited by Osama Bin Laden, he needed our weapons and support because he knew he needed to embrace the infidel to obtain more power and he sold the arms he recieved, and began to sincerely threaten non muslims all over the world...He made his bones in Afghanistan..but he didn't give a damn about that country...Saudi Arabia is the home of his family. he will bring his twisted and dark muslim fundamentalism back home...and it will fester as it does now...

1980...Reagan never found the Contra's. never endorsed their ideology, didn't know where the money was really going.....to support guerrilas that were smuggling dope...your pulling this one out of your ass.

1981..Hussien needs weapons., the soviets were ready to gain the upper hand. Saddam is a Stalinist and would rather find his warm bed with his russian bed fellows...but we have a better idea. A bad idea, but we took a risk...and it backfired.

1983...The Whitehouse didn't authorise the Hawk missles...nope...some Marine Corp Officer with a hair up his ass took the fall for that one..The trail doesn't end there, but he screwed up, and he paid the price..

1989...Noriega was a loose cannon, needed to be throttled, we could have done this all within the measure of a covert strike, but we needed support, needed legitimacy, we could have taken him out at any time..but we waited....enter Colin Powell..

1990...with weapons from the former soviet republics and N. Korea and France...yes France, IRAQ invaded Kuwait..Even my history is pretty damn sharp on this one...I was there...long before you were born...

1991...Kuwait reinstalls the ruler of that country...and restores the country to it's rightful place in OPEC..
(even I couldn't resist pointing out....your making this crap up SH4president)

1998...President (cant get enough pootang) Clinton...really screws up, acts on bad information and lets Bin Laden slip past...now we all pay for that one..

AND THE IRAQI CHILDREN? come on man....Hussien has palaces, drains swamps, amases cash and gold and his children die...and the killing field...please be realistic...you couldn't have missed this one.

2000 to the present...Afghanistan isn't blowing up anchient relics anymore , but is allowing experts and volunteers to help them rebuild their infrastructure..but the Talibun murdered most of the intellectual flame from their candles..it will take time..Afghanistan will shine again one day...

9/11....Now you have really blown this one out your rectum...into a large fan...and you have covered yourself with the steaming excrement of your argument....We did not train these men to kill Americans....just like a gun, these men seized control...turned the airplanes into weapons and pointed them into buildings...and then they became martyrs for their cause.....nothing more than that..and now our president is bringing fire and brimstone upon these men, these conspirators, these twisted and scarred fugitives from planet earth, that cling to anger and fear and their faith..one by one...like ducks in a shooting gallery...they will fall...

AS YOU SOW.....SO SHALL YOU REAP...

Yes "hail" the brave americans and those that suffer and struggle daily, to come to terms with the hatred fostered by religious fundamentalists..
I discount your reference to "DAS RIECH" and Adolph Hitler....unless you have read Mien Kampf...
I don't recommend it, but it is a window into the soul of a meglomaniac....
perhaps reading it will spark some kind of ephiphony....or insight...

fallang_jeff.
You live in a dreamworld. But I hope you will wake up someday and see the truth.
I see in the post above that you have not a clue to what is happening in the world. You are completely brainwashed.(good job Rumsfeldt)

~~SH4President~~ · May 20, 2003, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ^_^
Can we ban him pretty please with a cherry on top of a whip cream mountain?

Ahhhhhh, here we have a little communist!!!
If we dont like the other guys point of view, then we call for censorship!!!
Are you born in Russia or do you just beleive in the communistparti ideologi?

mike2h · May 20, 2003, 11:01 AM

You live in a dreamworld. But I hope you will wake up someday and see the truth.
I see in the post above that you have not a clue to what is happening in the world. You are completely brainwashed.(good job Rumsfeldt)

yeh that is it,it is a miracle, i see the light! me & hundreds of millions of other people have been brainwashed by donald rumsfeld! oh the tyranny. that evil man! i can see him now with his light & little pendulum going from door to door brainwashing al us mentally inferior(to you) people. and he is so fast to.

do you actually beleive the crap you spew? scare me that there is somebody out there who, and i use this term with some trepidation, 'thinks' like you do and is not locked up somewhere. or are you? are you sneaking out of your padded cell & posting? does that mean when we get those blessed days when you are not, you are in electroshock therapy? or have i got it all wrong and you are actually on the run from all the worlds police forces who are hunting ex president S.H. down like the rabied dog he(you) are. hmmm

, the second part to the hitler story is tonight. can we expect another tirade tomorrow? crap, now i am really confused. the whole insane asylum, hussein, hitler thing has me confused. wait i got it

! you are hitler/hussein & you are hiding in an asylum undergoing shock therapy as a cover!! that is it! i wonder if i can get the reward? let me get back to you on that.

~~bluelight~~ · May 20, 2003, 01:00 PM

As far as i concerned Rumsfeld IS evil.Any man that first licks the boots of Saddfam because it just happens...to fit the needs of the Usa in their imperialistic foreign politics and then nicely adapts to the opposite is of course evil in some sense.

Fully logic.

Bluelight