OmegaRED

Regular people are stupid and will believe anything. I'd rather let smart people (like Popular Mechanics) dissect the theories to find the truth...big surprise it's usually the most obvious explanation (ie terrorists).

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[hobo]eclipse

o cmon omega get real, people cant be regular and smart? (whoever defines people as smart and regular anyway?)

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OmegaRED

As George Carlin wisely says: "Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."

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[hobo]eclipse

and the other half then......?

Talk about troll'n up a topic

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Falstaff

if that were true then we all are stupid sir, I think otherwise, but your entitled to your opinion, I give most the benefit of the doubt. But I am not sure how you measure wisdom, but my benchmark is pretty high and just admitting your not as smart as you think you are is one step closer to being smarter.

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OmegaRED

We're all ignorant or stupid about something, I used to believe in everything from angels to Loch Ness Monster, I understand how people fall for this crap. The only measure of wisdom I know of right now (at this point in my life) is to attempt to see the world for what it really is and limit the amount of illusions and fantasies that I believe in.

Well excuuuuuuuuuuse me

I didn't mean to interrupt this ongoing investigation. I'll step aside and let you Zeitgeist crusaders open our eyes to the truth.

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Falstaff

a man's life must be shaped by the knowlege that he embraced

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[hobo]eclipse

Just look at all these Architectural and Engineering Professional who don't want to accuse anybody of anything, but would like a new investigation because with their knowledge of the architectural and engineering laws they find it very hard to believe the "official story".

This only about 1/3 to 1/2 of the people listed here not to mention there is also pilots and scholars for 911 truth

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OmegaRED

Compile a list of architects and engineers who support the official version of the events to make it fair. I imagine the list would be 100 times as long which is why no one has tried

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[hobo]eclipse

none the less, would it make these professionals opinions any less valid?

Wouldn't such a drastic difference in the opinions of professionals on the same subject just scream to let science speak and have a true investigation where all sides are granted the same access to express their beliefs/concerns/facts into the accounts of the day?

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Reckless187

Just remember that anything that goes against the thinking of the majority is considered weird, lies & a conspiracy theory & is always 100% wrong because strange & weird things never happen in this world of ours. It's pointless even having a discussion like this as the subject matter will always be just a theory as there is hardly ever enough evidence to prove otherwise or it's been well covered up, sorry, not covered up as that sort of thing never happens.

Judas

Actually, we live in a sociaty that is spoon fed our information through TV and magazines, newspapers and any other media.

A considerable amount of information that "counters" what the majority have read or have understood for so long is usually burnt alive before it can gets it's head outa the ground..... barried over and over again.


IMO, everyone is stupid, that's a fact, we are all really really stupid creatures, just some are smarter then others at some things.

What i would like to see,

That list, incorrporating EVERYONE that is in those proffesions around the world, devided into 3 thirds, the ones that are damn sure this shit didn't go down like it should have, the ones that know are the fence knowing the official story is bullshit, and the side that is pro brainwashing imo.

I would be the least serprised that there is more in the middle then the 2 other sides combined, and i would be the bit surprised if the 2 competeing sides had either similare numbers, OR, the "official story" side has LESS.....

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Kazeko

Many things and there may be two posts.


1. Was 9/11 plotted by the U.S Government, as Andrew Russo wants you to believe?

So what? - What if it was?

It identifies Democracy as a massive failure to prevent coercive control. (which the US Media already does, Youtube and Andrew Russo included.)

Also... what happens if it's identified as false? We just burn the politicians at the stake and move on?

Rather than focus on your emotions that have been flared by the sanctioned violation of your free will, how's about we ask "Well, if that's the case, then what do we do with it?"

2. Here's your first GLARING INACCURACY.

The people who said they were IRS agents and couldn't find where, taxes were written into law...?

First, The 16th amendment, which was officially ratified by 42 states, where only 36 were necessary. Ohio, which was not officially recognized as a state when the amendment was ratified, is irrelevant, as you still have another 5 states that ratified the amendment.

Second,
United States Code; Title 26 IS the Internal Revenue Code.
You can find it in Westlaw, Lexisnexis, or on the IRS.Gov website or at ANY local library.

This, is a GREAT example of what I mentioned in #1, above. - People don't look before they believe. People will accept ANYTHING as fact without trying to find out if what they've been told is even correct.

Those proclaimed IRS agents, are no longer employed by the IRS, because they lacked the mental faculty required for their respective positions.

Should you require, I'd gladly bring to light the MULTITUDE of court cases, that have tried these arguments already, before a jury, and failed.

Don't forget. Al Capone went to jail for Tax Evasion. NOT Racketeering or any other crime. TAX EVASION.


3. The Security and Protection Partnership is an initiative (NOT AN ACT) intended to prevent drug smuggling and to protect Intellectual Property Rights between Canada, the US and Mexico.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CURRENCY. Again, this is publicly available information. Lou Dobbs, and CNN were lying through their teeth to get ratings, because CNN AND OTHER NEWS AGENCIES ARE FOR-PROFIT BUSINESSES THAT WANT YOU TO WATCH THEIR STATION AND RECOGNIZE THEIR BUSINESS.

And they got EXACTLY what they were looking for.

3. I've already cited the inherent fallacies in the arguments against the Federal Reserve Bank (which includes the Federal Reserves of other countries and their purpose) in previous posts. Suffice it to say that the value of a dollar is synonymous with production, and those who produce - Businesses.
When the value of the dollar drops, US companies win, foreign companies lose. This is the very reason that the FRB has sought to push the value of the US dollar down for the last thirty years - it's good for US companies.

Go look at Toyota's massive profit loss and stock drop in the US over the last two years and ask yourself why, when they're the most popular car on the road.


4. The sad truth is; Russo is preaching anarchy as a form of socialism. - Corporate America (The FRB) gets nothing, the Government gets nothing, and subsequently, neither do the people. Exonerate the proletariat, and trash business and government - Organization.


Here's my quote for the night.

"Each activity and each need of the individual will thereby be regulated by the party as the representative of the general good. (Democracy) There will be no license, no free space, in which the individual belongs to himself. This is socialism, not such trifles as the private possession of the means of production. (Property) Of what importance is that, if I range men firmly within a discipline they cannot escape? Let them then own land, or factories as much as they please. The decisive factor is that the state, through the party, is supreme over them, regardless whether they are owners or workers. All that, you see, is unessential. Our socialism goes far deeper...

The people about us are unaware of what is really happening to them. They gaze fascinated at one or two familiar superficialities, such as possessions and income and rank and other outworn conceptions. As long as these are kept intact, they are quite satisfied. But in the meantime, they have entered a new relation; a powerful social force has caught them up. They themselves are changed. What are ownership and income to that? Why need we trouble to socialize banks, and factories? We socialize human beings."

I won't say who I just quoted. Only that this quote is the scariest thing that I've EVER come across in my life. I hope that someone understands why I quoted this.


Leaders, are still that. They lead people incapable of leading themselves.


Humans are beings of Volitional Consciousness. Rational thought requires cognitive effort. It does not happen automatically, like the beating of your heart.

Zeitgeist conveys emotion. If you agree with it, without asking "WTF?" first, then you've given up your capacity for rational thought, and subsequently - your Free Will.



"Who is John Galt?"

(Note: Do not confuse Libertarians with Radical Capitalists.)

RSOblivion

@Kazeko - Thanks for pointing out the codes regarding the IRS. One slight problem though, its only minor and most people yell semantics whenever its mentioned, but does any of the IRS documents pertain to a man? So far all I have read in Australian documents (and many US documents) pertain to Persons, Individuals and Corporate bodies. So how does it apply to a man?

First you need a definition of Persons & Individuals to understand where I am coming from. Blacks 1st edition describes Persons as "Bodies Corporate or Bodies Politic". That isn't a man. They are legal fictions created to describe entities which can only exist on paper in writing rather than physically as a living breathing bloke.
Individuals are men who are directly in the employ of the Governing body or residing within a military base (actual wording is fort but the terminology is updated). Now that means again that your average man is not eligible to pay tax. Though it does mean that 1/3 of all Americans are eligible to pay tax as the Government is the largest employer in the States.

At no point have I found or been noticed that a man is eligible to pay any of his hard earned assets to the government. Even the Constitution protects against this, though an amendment did let the floodgates open for abuse of the tax system which was only ever designed to be used upon Governmental employees and businesses.