The debate religion thread!

[narwal]

What matters most to me? On the surface, this would seem an easy question. Were I inclined to take the question unseriously? Based on my experiences, I found the answer quite revealing.

With the advent of personal computers, waiting times no longer seemed to be an issue – users came to expect computers to respond immediately. The Web, however, is one of the reasons that waiting times did not disappear into the shadows of history.

The lack of functionality can constrict you in several ways: In its severest form, it can prevent you from achieving your goals, or put simply, you cannot make the application do what you want it to do. As a simple example, think of an application that doesn't let you select several items at a time and perform an action on them, such as Delete. As a result, you have to carry out the procedure for each item separately. This is particularly cumbersome if procedures consist of several steps.

It's a bit like the old wisdom that your car has to have four wheels before you can drive it.

[Maddogg6]

I think I understand your analogy... and would like to point out that - a car, is a mode of transportation - and is most popular - but the truth is... a motor cycle with only 2 wheels is more efficient in several ways.

Then theres the bicycle - thats even more efficient with only 2 wheels...

My point - all because its popular - doesn't make it the best thing for *us all*. Considering those with big cars tend to drive like they own the roads.

[OmegaRED]

Originally Posted by narwal

What matters most to me? On the surface, this would seem an easy question. Were I inclined to take the question unseriously? Based on my experiences, I found the answer quite revealing.

With the advent of personal computers, waiting times no longer seemed to be an issue – users came to expect computers to respond immediately. The Web, however, is one of the reasons that waiting times did not disappear into the shadows of history.

The lack of functionality can constrict you in several ways: In its severest form, it can prevent you from achieving your goals, or put simply, you cannot make the application do what you want it to do. As a simple example, think of an application that doesn't let you select several items at a time and perform an action on them, such as Delete. As a result, you have to carry out the procedure for each item separately. This is particularly cumbersome if procedures consist of several steps.

It's a bit like the old wisdom that your car has to have four wheels before you can drive it.

I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You in the wrong thread maybe?

[Maddogg6]

Originally Posted by OmegaRED

I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You in the wrong thread maybe?

*I think* he was saying 'if it floats your boat, theres nothing wrong with your religion, and those without religion are doomed to failure'... in a difficult to follow analogy.... ??? maybe I'm wrong... but I'll first assume the guy isnt all that whak... it seem to work with what I read (or at least I have heard my interpretation said before)

so I continued with his car analogy to refute him... ??? - if he is whak - erm, its kinda funny coincidence... ???

[OmegaRED]

I dunno, it was a stretch when that one guy used Windows comparisons now this other guy is using the web and cars. FFS, quit with the riddles and say what you mean.

[Russ]

lol, "all powerful" leaves no room for debate, or logic, and allows for any contradictions.

Could God create some indestructible object?
- Of course, he is all powerful...
Could God destroy this indestructible object?
- Of course, he is all powerful...

hmm....

[Maddogg6]

Originally Posted by Russ

lol, "all powerful" leaves no room for debate, or logic, and allows for any contradictions.

Could God create some indestructible object?
- Of course, he is all powerful...
Could God destroy this indestructible object?
- Of course, he is all powerful...

hmm....

great point. thats the typical circular logic with those who don't even think about what they say, or been told... but then again, how many religions actually promote 'thinking for thy self'... ? few, if not *none*.

[OmegaRED]

I'd like to hear from Christians and non Christians (especially in the UK and Europe) on their thoughts of the Archbishop of Canterbury's comments about adopting Muslim Sharia Law.

BBC NEWS | Politics | Williams under fire in Sharia row

Also, I came across this Channel 4 video which shows the abuse Christians suffer at the hands of Muslims in Egypt. It really is quite appalling how badly Muslims treat unbelievers in their own countries yet demand to be treated fairly in Christian cultures. Western countries always give in yet the Muslims don't reciprocate...I think it's time our leaders put their foot down and stood up to Muslim bullying.

YouTube - Egypt ; Treatment of Christians 1 of 3.
YouTube - Egypt ; Treatment of Christians 2 of 3
YouTube - Egypt ; Treatment of Christians 3 of 3

Show details here:
Channel 4 - News - Egypt's Rubbish People

[Zelig]

The archbishop is a nut, but it's not as if he's particularly relevant in Britain, so it doesn't really matter anyway.

I can't see the sharia law thing going over any better in Britain than it did in Ontario.

edit: And FWIW, as many Muslims in Britain oppose Sharia law as those who support it.

edit2: And should have posted a source for that, here's some pretty graphs and stuff: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/grap...aria119big.jpg

[OmegaRED]

Originally Posted by Zelig

The archbishop is a nut, but it's not as if he's particularly relevant in Britain, so it doesn't really matter anyway.

That's not what I've seen in articles posted on other forums, they show an emerging trend of Muslims demanding the UK conform to their beliefs; it's political correctness gone bad.

edit: And FWIW, as many Muslims in Britain oppose Sharia law as those who support it.

I hope so, the Muslim population in the UK is rising quickly eventually they're going to have much more say in these matters. I don't understand why they'd go to Britain if they didn't want to be a part of a secular society.

[Maddogg6]

Chat11.com: Hamtramck Michigan Islamic Call To Prayer

This town used to be refered to as 'Pol Town' - from the large number of polish immigrants - now, the muslim call for prayer is also heard.(the

'ALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALLALA'

The arguments *for* it is; If a church can have bells that 'tells time' - so can a mosque. Tho it seems a PA is more economical solution for Islam ??

Most non muslim, athiests included, would find a church bell less audibly offensive - as it is also a tribute to our liberties (re: Liberty Bell).

When I am at home, I *like* the sound of a bell - I get annoyed at sounds of loud/obnoxious people however. Be it a hoedown, an auctioneer, or a call to islam prayer. We can safely assume the first 2 would never be imposed upon us here, certainly not 5 times a day every day, but the latter????

I hope the local church here stops ringing their bell - as much as I *like* it - I dont want it to be used as the justification like in Hamtramck.