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Old May 3, 2003, 04:27 PM   #31
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First of all, SARS and Iraq are two completly different topics. Yes i know that the UN voted with 1441, but some of the countries with veto powers said they would veto the act. You just proved my point. The creators of the UN gave the orignal creators veto powers for a reason, it is part of the whole democracy of the UN. The US ignored this fact and went ahead with it anyway. Even if you go by the rules partly, you still break them. I apologize for the misunderstanding about the despots. However i still believe you can deal with them though understanding. Really the easiest way is to establish a worldwide socialist state. Regrettably the US is much to steadfast in its ways, not realizing the failures of the curent system in place. It is unfortunate that the most powerful nation in the world is led by a man who is so insecure about himself that he jepordizes the UN and Americas place in the world in order to get in a history textbook.
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Old May 6, 2003, 03:19 AM   #32
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I'm sorry to upset you, please do not take me too seriously.
Note I wasn't saying that Clinton cared at all about terrorism,
only that Bush was indeed President at the time of the attacks.
What would you say is the standard turn-around time, then, for
the policies of a new administration to go into effect?
Rather, I should wonder . . . if the WTC/Pentagon attacks never
happened, how would the Bush administration's attitude be
toward terrorism, at this point in time?
Of course, we cannot know.
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Old May 6, 2003, 08:57 PM   #33
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Rather, I should wonder . . . if the WTC/Pentagon attacks never
happened, how would the Bush administration's attitude be
toward terrorism, at this point in time?
Of course, we cannot know.
Well, 9-11 changed everything for us. I suspect that had the attacks not occured, there would have been no war in Afghanistan or Iraq. It is pretty safe to say that the administration would care much less about terrorism than it does not. But one thing is clear: while the Clinton administration, after eight years, had created no formal policy to deal with terrorism, the Bush administration had a draft of its policy on terrorism in draft form in the early days of September. What that policy involved... we probably will never know, and it was probably thrown out the window or rewritten when those towers fell.
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Old May 6, 2003, 09:08 PM   #34
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the what ifs will kill you

Eventually, within time....Afghanistan and IRAQ would have happened....it's been an issue for along time...9/11 just accelrated or exascerbatred the situation, but is was a goal all along...(incoming......boom)
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Old May 16, 2003, 04:18 PM   #35
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clinton was too busy getting hummers to do anything about terrorism

even though dubya was president at the time of the 9-11 attacks, that doesn't mean that the attacks were not conceived before his term in office. something that big took a lot of planning, it didn't just happen overnight
how long were those f@ckers taking flight lessons for?

dubya may not be the best president we've ever had, but at least he had the cahones to DO something about it
if gore had won, where would we be?

understanding is not how to deal with despots...
unreasonable people can't be reasoned with
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Old May 16, 2003, 06:47 PM   #36
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yes...

Im afraid like Kennedy and Clinton will share the "cant seem to get enough" award..
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Old May 17, 2003, 12:52 AM   #37
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Well if slavery exists in a country I doubt it has Republicans in it. My point is if "The Republican Party was a party founded for the explicit purpose of combating slavery"; and slavery no longer exists in America, whats the point in the party anymore? Why not more their party to where their needed?
The point of the republican party nowadays is GREED!!!! Plain and simple... You need look no further than that infernal tax cut they just passed. Raegonomics didn't work in the past... It isn't working now (2000 tax cuts). Nor is it going to work for 2004. The republicans just f^ckedup bigtime. Then again it is just about short term profits anyways.
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Old May 17, 2003, 08:09 AM   #38
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No way

Cant be a republican unless your in the game for the long haul...that is the difference between conservative and liberal...long term solutions vs short term gains...
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Old May 17, 2003, 06:18 PM   #39
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The point of the republican party nowadays is GREED!!!! Plain and simple... You need look no further than that infernal tax cut they just passed.
Yeah, really. Why in the world would we stop taxing dividends? Old people, a major beneficiary, should have to pay taxes just like everybody else.
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