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Old Dec 4, 2007, 06:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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"God Hates America"

I had seen this in the news a few times before, but right now, i'm watching a documentary on this on the Discovery Times Channel about the Westboro Baptist Church (WBC). These guys are nothing but a cult. Oh, what irony it would be if all these people all went to hell and everybody else went to heaven.

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i just learned, that they were sued for 11 million back in october for their picketing. however, they have still filled an appeal.

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Old Dec 4, 2007, 07:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old Dec 4, 2007, 07:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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i just learned, that they were sued for 11 million back in october for their picketing. however, they have still filled an appeal.
Phelps used to practice as a lawyer, and has a good idea of what they're legally allowed to do.
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"God Hates America"
And just how do they know? Do they expect everybody else to believe something just because they said it, or do they expect everybody to believe that they understand the will of God?

These are some of the few people I'd like to throw handcuffed out of a truck in the middle of Tehran.

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Westboro Baptist Church and (WBC) is a controversial church headed by Fred Phelps, and based in Topeka, Kansas, U.S.. It runs the websites GodHatesFags.com,[1] GodHatesAmerica.com and others expressing condemnation of lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people (LGBT), Roman Catholics, Muslims and Jews, as well as populations it believes are supporting the forementioned groups, including Swedes, Canadians, IrishAmericans
...or offer them handcuffed in an Irish pub in that case, no need to go to the desert, sand and all that...


These guys hate everybody but me (thankfully) and themselves!
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Old Dec 4, 2007, 08:09 PM   #5 (permalink)
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if its on the tele then it must be so..



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Old Dec 6, 2007, 10:50 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I've heard all the members of the Church are lawyers which would be interesting if true (since they lost their case despite the massive legal team). "Church" isn't really what they are, it's all his extended family.

Years ago I went down to the Courthouse when Fred Phelps and his "God Hates Fags" brigade came to my city to spread their hatred but since then I've changed my religious views and now understand that what he is basically doing is taking the Bible literally. God does hate fags because the Bible was written by people who hated homosexuality. If you truly believe in the Bible then America wouldn't be in God's graces since it is based on secular values not Christianity.
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Old Dec 6, 2007, 10:54 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Years ago I went down to the Courthouse when Fred Phelps and his "God Hates Fags" brigade came to my city to spread their hatred but since then I've changed my religious views and now understand that what he is basically doing is taking the Bible literally. God does hate fags because the Bible was written by people who hated homosexuality. If you truly believe in the Bible then America wouldn't be in God's graces since it is based on secular values not Christianity.
but if god "loves all" where do "fags" come into play? this would be a complete and utter oxymoronic term here.
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Old Dec 6, 2007, 11:09 PM   #8 (permalink)
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It would be impossible for God to hate "Fags" since he created them that way. He hates them because He is really "they" and "they" is a bunch of people who wrote the Bible by committee.

As for the God Loves All stuff...

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Old Dec 20, 2007, 03:21 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Westboro Baptist Church and (WBC) is a controversial church headed by Fred Phelps, and based in Topeka, Kansas, U.S.. It runs the websites GodHatesFags.com,[1] GodHatesAmerica.com and others expressing condemnation of lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people (LGBT), Roman Catholics, Muslims and Jews, as well as populations it believes are supporting the forementioned groups, including Swedes, Canadians, IrishAmericans
Wow... You know who these guys sound like, right?



I don't think you need to attend eight years of Law School to sound like a f*cking bigot piece of sh!t.
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Old Dec 20, 2007, 08:58 PM   #10 (permalink)
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That's a girly sword right there.
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Old Dec 21, 2007, 02:55 PM   #11 (permalink)
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That's a girly sword right there.
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Old Dec 25, 2007, 02:54 PM   #12 (permalink)
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As for the God Loves All stuff...


Little old, but i had to bring this up...

Omega I'm not trying to rip on you in any way, just using the pic you posted as an example/reference.


This passage also reads...

"Saul answered, "The soldiers brought them from the Amalekites; they spared the best of the sheep and cattle to sacrifice to the Lord your God, but we totally destroyed the rest.""


Now, that's the NIV version (New International Version)

King James version reads....

"And the Samuel said to Saul, " the lord sent me to anoint you king over his people Israel; now therefore hearken to the words of the lord."
Thus says the Lord of hosts, "I will punish what Amalek did to Israel in opposing them on the way, when they came up out of Egypt. Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have; do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and donkey ("Donkey" edited for PC purposes)."


Basically what I'm getting at here... is that there's literally HUNDREDS of different translations, interpretations and meanings one can find in the Bible.


Some people take the word of the Bible verbatim, as though they should be slaughtering a ram and spraying it's blood on the Altar of God as the bible would indicate in Leviticus.



The bigger point is what Falstaff said...

"Just because the TV said it, it must be true... NO."

This warmed my heart.

One of the biggest problems I see is the acceptance of face-value, rather than the rationalization and effort required to find reality.


Christianity's isn't exclusively what someone else tells you it is. It's what you get out of it and what you find in Christianity.

TV can be a great source for news and opinions, the problem is that much of America (and other countries, I presume?) accepts the TV as fact, and accepts the opinions they're given by TV programs, assuming every word of a broadcast is true and factual. It's not. More and more often it's becoming false, or incomplete.

Note: Don't forget. Television stations, even in America, are under NO obligation to tell the truth.


If you take someone else's opinion or statement as fact without questioning it, you've given up the ability to decide for yourself.
There's a level of responsibility associated with making an opinion and finding reality, but that responsibility is part of Power.

With so many translations of the bible, and so many interpretations of world events, I would suggest, rather than accepting the TV as fact, or accepting a statement on the internets (including my own) as fact, you seek the answers for yourself.



Note: This is not directed at anyone specifically.


Personal Thought Section - What disappoints me, is that Christianity is being Villanized with no prior knowledge of the religion, only opinions others are accepting as fact.
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Old Dec 25, 2007, 07:03 PM   #13 (permalink)
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/me *looks for a bible*

/me *reads bible*

i agree with the above post 100%

and lets not forget that the bible is just a BOOK! anyone can write(and re-write) a book about anything. its up to us to LEARN(not to just blindly follow) wich notion or idea
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Old Dec 26, 2007, 12:40 AM   #14 (permalink)
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and lets not forget that the bible is just a BOOK! anyone can write(and re-write) a book about anything. its up to us to LEARN(not to just blindly follow) wich notion or idea
I agree with this, the Bible could be written by anyone and most likely was edited so many times by so many people that all of it is suspect.
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Old Dec 27, 2007, 12:09 PM   #15 (permalink)
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God does not hate anyone or thing.
absolute rubbish and twattle.
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