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Old Nov 12, 2007, 12:41 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Well, over 90% of pregnancies diagnosed with Down syndrome are terminated (in the US, I'm assuming the rates are similar in other developed countries), so we're on the way already.
Source? And if that's the case, China's just been throwing babies out of the hospital window (especially girls) for the past twenty years due to overpopulation, not retardation.

It seems like we've been on the road to infanticide for a lot longer than any form of genetic engineering has...plus, cloned body parts and blood would eliminate the entire "donor compatibility" dilemma the whole world is facing right now. If you could remove things from the genome like paralysis, deformation, retardation and brain damage, it would not only be substantially beneficial, but would help create more productive members of society.

But when you really think about it, look where "playing God" has gotten us before...







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Old Nov 12, 2007, 01:11 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Wiley InterScience : Prenatal Diagnosis

Important data is in the abstract.
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Old Nov 12, 2007, 01:14 PM   #18 (permalink)
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its crappy cause its moving in the opposite direction of the natural balance the earth tries to maintain and will separate even further the "have and have nots"
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Old Nov 12, 2007, 01:21 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Wiley InterScience : Prenatal Diagnosis

Important data is in the abstract.
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Old Nov 12, 2007, 09:34 PM   #20 (permalink)
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My argument against genetic engineering is that in fact the desire to create an abstract version of human beings is fraught with problems that go far beyond the scope of philosophy. We have been and will continue to be successful in all our endeavors and perhaps within our life times see a world with genetically enhanced, improved or repaired peoples, perhaps even a new culture of superior beings, it remains to be seen. And BlueMak, I am afraid bug excrement has nothing to do with this.
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Old Nov 12, 2007, 10:18 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I'm against genetic engineering in that I don't want to live in a world that resembles the movie Gattica but if I ever have children I'd want them to tinker with the fetus as much as possible to eliminate potential defects and such.
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Old Nov 13, 2007, 02:50 PM   #22 (permalink)
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genetic engineering doesn't sound too fantastic if it isn't necessary, i'm all for helping to cure diseases and stuff like that which is why the folding @ home program is so successful.
Why make a human that's already perfectly good and well into some kind of superman?
I'm quite happy being just human,

gives me an excuse when things go wrong ;p
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Old Nov 13, 2007, 04:25 PM   #23 (permalink)
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genetic engineering doesn't sound too fantastic if it isn't necessary, i'm all for helping to cure diseases and stuff like that which is why the folding @ home program is so successful.
Why make a human that's already perfectly good and well into some kind of superman?
I'm quite happy being just human,

gives me an excuse when things go wrong ;p
folding at home is successful?

how do you measure that?
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Old Nov 13, 2007, 04:30 PM   #24 (permalink)
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i'm quite intriqued with the idea of "alternate species"
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folding at home is successful?

how do you measure that?
It's just from what i've heard there's like millions of people using it every day, was SETI @ Home successful or not? i can't remember.. I'll ask my physics teacher he was telling us about it
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Old Nov 14, 2007, 12:37 AM   #26 (permalink)
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i'm quite intriqued with the idea of "alternate species"
A genetic variation caused by mutation is widely understood in the animal kingdom and even in paleontology, say between Neanderthals and Cro-Magnon man, etc. But to artificially create it with the technology we have now is not beyond our ability, and that drives the left and right wing opinions on the matter. Genetic research is huge here in the military and private sector and we even have a geneticist on staff here, she is the one that posed the question to me recently.

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It's just from what i've heard there's like millions of people using it every day, was SETI @ Home successful or not? i can't remember.. I'll ask my physics teacher he was telling us about it
I heard it about years ago, but I dont do it. I just dont and still dont think my CPU cycles are gonna make a bit of difference in determining anything about our infinite universe. I know for a fact we are not the only ones in the Galaxy or Universe.
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Old Nov 14, 2007, 02:06 AM   #27 (permalink)
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actually falstaff.... it's already been done recently...

genetically forcing a mutation with different species altogether (however similare in some sense)

course there next step approach is likely massive differences.... perhaps a reptile like creature with a mammal.....
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Genetic engineering happens for centuries now. With plants and animals. For example flowers and dogs. Humans used to do it all the time, only that now it can be done faster.
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Genetic engineering happens for centuries now. With plants and animals. For example flowers and dogs. Humans used to do it all the time, only that now it can be done faster.


you kill me BlueMak...
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