zaim

(i want this thread CLEAN, no talk about terrorism, or any other bullshit which doesn't relate to the current topic in wish I want answered. THANK YOU.)

Ok. I myself am a son of Allah (lol), well, a muslim, but don't practice it as much as I probably should.

As most likely you know, we can't:

smoke, drink, swear, take drugs, eat pork/shark, commit adultry, all that stuff right...

Honostly, I don't follow any of it beside not eating the pork part and I do celebrate ramadan.. to an extent.

BUT MY QUESTION IS THIS...

Why can't us Muslims eat shark?

The pig reason is because it's considered as a dirty animal, thus unallowed to eat it... but shark is a little confusing. (I love my flake with my fish 'n chips!)

My logic tells me that we perhaps see the shark as a scavanger of the sea? a scrap eater? a man eater? ... I dunno... that's why I ask here =) seeing as this is a busy forum, I'm sure someone would be able to help me out.

thanks =)

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No I'm not Muslim but I find this interesting. Is there any other predators you folks are not allowed to eat? First time I've heard about this myself.

cozumel

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This is according to the Sahih Muslim No.1934. Any predatory beast that kills with its teeth, claws or talons is prohibited (haram). I suppose it could be due to the pain caused during death.

However, it is also written that all sea-animals are Haram except for fish. It will be permitted to eat a fish even without slaughtering it according to the rules of Shariah. However, a fish that dies naturally without an external cause and begins to float on the surface of the water (Samak al-Tafi) is also considered Haram. This I assume would be to with hygiene and the spread of disease/bacteria.

Basically according to some teachings shark is okay, whilst in other areas it is not. It all depends on the interpretation.

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zaim

Hey that's probably some accurate information you've supplied me thank you..
This your knowledge? Or did you read it up somewhere just now..

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The predator does make sense, wow guess I was right about that w/o having a clue.

zaim

Islam is built a lot on common sense.. so if you got that, then you'll understand our religion quite well

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BlueMak

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I had no idea muslims were not supposed to eat shark. Live and learn.


BTW, who eats shark?

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dj_stick

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i eat shark (flake) regularly

it's interesting to read/hear about different culture's prohibited foods, because there's usually a good historical reason for it

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cozumel

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Some of the clients I represent are Muslim (asylum seekers) so I learn a lot from them and a tiny bit of arabic too.

The precise Haram and Halal rules I googled. I then cross referenced with stuff from the Hanafi Madhab school. I t will help me and increase my understanding of the cultural needs of my clients. So thank you for submitting an interesting question

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cozumel

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Some muslims will eat shark as it all depends on interpretation. IE you can all eat all fish so it's okay. On the other hand it is a beast that hunts with its teeth. This is a minor conflict.

I eat shark. I eat (and will try) anything that moves.

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Maddogg6

Hmm - I too find it interesting that 'shark' is mentioned specifically

I mean... Pike (a fish) has teeth and feed on living creature (worms, smaller fish) - is that allowed?
Or how about sword fish (yum)..??


Cant say I see that here... seems like 'sharks' are specified for additional reasons, or cozumels post was too generalized... ??

zaim

Wel I said a lot.. not all

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SaberZ

I too am muslim and did not know shark was prohibited, then again I never ate it myself.

A lot of it is common sense, but then there are some items that are a bit old, that I don't think would matter much in todays times.

Such as, you can own a dog, but really shouldn't allow it into the house for hygene sakes, unlike a cat, granted it can clean up after itself, but both have foul breath and shed for the most part.


I myself am allergic to dander so keeping a dog in the house is really out of the question, but owning one always crossed my mind. But I've seen some of my friends dogs and honestly they can get annoying if they aren't trained correctly. Like trying to climb into a chair for human food, peeing on things in a room where they aren't allowed etc, its all hygenic, but i think with proper training and such it could work out....that or get a sentry gun to put the dog in its place....

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Maddogg6

Well - a dog sheds - and so do people - I read something like (edit: as much as../edit) 75% of 'household dust' is human dead skin. We shed hair as well (granted alot less - but there are breeds of dogs that don't shed much too)

And... its been proven a dogs saliva contains less bacteria than our own... and many people 'spit' when they speak (check for the DNA on your dinning room table).
And... I know plenty children, mentally ill and elderly that not only pee in their bed - but will continue to sleep in it till morning. And keep the stained mattress.

Additionally, we have cleaners and disinfectants that seem to be ok to use in hospitals. Or are those not allowed too?

So - as far as hygiene goes - not making sense to me how these things originate.
Thus, one *could* deduce that these are rules for the sake of control.

SFOSOK

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A child is not a predator can you eat those?

If so then I'm converting!

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