Ways the US gov is working against it's citzens

OnDborder · Feb 4, 2007, 12:59 AM

Please edit,, "citizens"
Well, I'll start it off..
Illegal immigration(occupation)
The lack of control of the borders, which is one of the duties of the federal goverment if not the only one, is one in my book. The Congress sat on their hands while some of us were writing, emailing, and talking to them about this problem years ago.
Another, the suspension of habeaus corpus..

OnDborder · Feb 6, 2007, 01:40 PM

A super highway through the middle of the country, from Mexico, to transport goods from the ports of Mexico, bypassing, excluding the coastal workers of this country. http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=15497

Dowaco · Feb 9, 2007, 10:00 AM

So "by the people, for the people" is no longer in effect?
Is it us against "them" whoever them is?

Elected officials are supposed to represent the majority. The minority has a voice but certainly does not always get what it wants. I am not endorsing or rejecting the actions you pointed out, just saying you get what you vote for if you are in the majority. You complain and campaign for change if you are in the minority. In that sense, the govt is always working against at least some of the people some of the time.

Falstaff · Feb 9, 2007, 02:23 PM

That majority you might be referring to is more than happy to hire those illegal immigrants for substantially less.

Dowaco · Feb 9, 2007, 02:53 PM

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That majority you might be referring to is more than happy to hire those illegal immigrants for substantially less.

Exactly, which is why nothing is being done about it.

The major way the government is working against its citizens is to take over 1/3 of our earnings in taxes to maintain their power base via pork, handouts, welfare, etc.

OnDborder · Feb 11, 2007, 10:59 AM

Rush hour tax for folks that are stuck in a jam going/coming back from work. http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0207/p...omv.html?s=itm

cozumel · Feb 11, 2007, 12:24 PM

I stopped driving about six years 'cos I got pissed at the congestion at parking problems. I spend somewhere between $75-$150 in a typical week on cabs (don't like or feel comfortable in public transport system). I'm all for increased taxation of motorists and gas!!!

Does that make me popular with you guys???? No....Well tough!!

Dowaco · Feb 11, 2007, 01:54 PM

If they raise taxes at bridges and tunnels then it will encourage people to drive the long way around and use even more gas. Spend an extra $5 for gas to save $15 on tolls. It will encourage working from home which means productivity will fall, tourism will fall, small businesses will fail.
Higher taxes are rarely good for anyone.

Zelig · Feb 11, 2007, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowaco

If they raise taxes at bridges and tunnels then it will encourage people to drive the long way around and use even more gas. Spend an extra $5 for gas to save $15 on tolls.

That's why gas taxation would be increased too...

cozumel · Feb 11, 2007, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Zelig

That's why gas taxation would be increased too...

Something like $7.50 / gallon would be perfect.

Dowaco · Feb 11, 2007, 05:18 PM

And people would pay it. Oil companies would not be hurt, only the poor and lower middle class would suffer due to increased transportation costs.
Politicians would use the windfall to line their own pockets, or to ensure their re-election.

That's how a government punishes its own citizens, tax the crap out of them. The harder they work and the more they earn, the more the govt takes to give to those who do not contribute.

cozumel · Feb 11, 2007, 09:05 PM

People would have the option of driving cars on biofuel or electric / hybrid on zero tax or getting VW beetles with small engines / high mpg. Alternatively everyone could ride nice big yamahas which go miles quicker than most cars and are loads more economical.

As for politicians lining their pockets....that's how we truly do get shafted and is the way all governments / politicians work against their citizens.

OnDborder · Feb 21, 2007, 04:08 PM

Tax breaks for companies "out-sourcing" jobs to other countries. Bush Supports New Tax Breaks for Companies that Ship Jobs Overseas

Yousaif · Feb 22, 2007, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cozumel

Something like $7.50 / gallon would be perfect.

And just what do you think that your cab rides would cost you per week if this happened?

Just because you don't personally drive a car doesn't mean that an increased gas tax wouldn't affect you.

OnDborder · Feb 26, 2007, 10:35 AM

Mexican trucks "ok'd" to transport freight in the continental U.S... Critics bash Mexican truck decision - Yahoo! News

Oh boy..
What do you think these truckers are going to use for currency?? The dollar or peso?
In order to ease the confusion, that's what goverment/congress does best, the amero will be instituted..

Thank you Clinton and the Congress for nafta.. "What's that sucking sound??"