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Feb 2, 2007, 02:27 PM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
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Funny how you USA guys (well most) are such hardcore extreme righties... 
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Feb 2, 2007, 02:50 PM
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Frozen in Carbonite
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Originally Posted by Sandok
Funny how you USA guys (well most) are such hardcore extreme righties... 
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So, if we don't support Hillary than we are considered to be on the extreme right? You must think that Hillary is a moderate.
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Feb 2, 2007, 02:53 PM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
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 Course not... And dude, I didn't necessarily mean ya... Just a global feeling I have from some users in general (concerning more than just hilary and bush....)
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Feb 2, 2007, 06:51 PM
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DriverHeaven Lover
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: East Coast, USA
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None of the other forums I regularly visit allow religious or political discussion which is fine. Finding a semi mature forum to post on controversial topics is not easy. Thanks for allowing an open discussion here.
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Originally Posted by Sandok
Funny how you USA guys (well most) are such hardcore extreme righties... 
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I think your are correct.
I left a well known (mostly gaming) forum because the moderators would not tolerate a conservative viewpoint while espousing a liberal bias of their own. I was pointed to DH from a fellow ocforums member and found a more accepting attitude here. At least disagreements are somewhat civil and the mods and admins don't punish posters who do not think as they do...
As to political leanings, I'm not sure why there are so many conservatives here. I have a theory that (in general) gamers who play shooters are right wingers and those who play RGPs are left wingers. Highly technical people tend to not be so religious but are usually more well off so they want lower taxes. Not a textbook Democrat or Republican, but more of a Libertarian.
Hillary is such a polarizing figure that she is either hated vehemently or loved warmly. The same post about "would you vote for..." replacing Hillary with John Edwards for example would get hardly any notice at all.
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Feb 2, 2007, 07:55 PM
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Mars
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calidan
So, if we don't support Hillary than we are considered to be on the extreme right? You must think that Hillary is a moderate.
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No, it's just that on a global scale, all two of the major US political parties are right-wing. In Canada, we've got 4 parties with parlimentary seats, running across the political spectrum, with a disputably overall tendency towards being moderate, yet we don't have a single party as right-wing as either US party.
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Originally Posted by Dowaco
None of the other forums I regularly visit allow religious or political discussion which is fine. Finding a semi mature forum to post on controversial topics is not easy. Thanks for allowing an open discussion here.
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Yeah, it's good as long as people stick to the issues, and not to each other, otherwise it becomes pointless.
Personally, I probably wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton. I don't have anything against her, but her party doesn't seem particularly effective. Of the largest 4 parties, I'd probably vote libertarian.
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Feb 3, 2007, 01:05 AM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: U.S.A.
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Originally Posted by AndyOCZ
Other than the "Clinton" part how does that differ from our current President?
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For one shes on the EXTREME LEFT, IRL: She makes others from left in her
party look "right wing" in compairison.
HORRABLE Things she said in front of our troops in iraq, is just for starters.
(Not to mention anyone remember the Whitewater scandal? or course they lacked
evidence to prove any wrong doing)
I pray we have more canadates this year, so theres actually a good choice out
there some where... vs chooseing a lesser of EVILs
Last edited by The_Neon_Cowboy; Feb 3, 2007 at 01:11 AM.
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Feb 3, 2007, 06:18 PM
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DriverHeaven Lover
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Can you imagine,, her vs. McCain? It'll be like Bubba vs. Dole. McCain won't have a chance.
The republicans better come up with someone or else she will be our next prez.
We really don't have "left" or "right" wing in politcs anymore. Did you notice the way our republican(rightwing) dominated congress voted in the last 12 yrs? There isn't any difference between the 2 parties anymore. They are both bought and paid for by the same corporate interests. Getting real close to becoming an oligarchy, if not one yet.
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Feb 3, 2007, 07:44 PM
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OCZ Technology Guru
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: So. California, USA
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Originally Posted by OnDborder
Can you imagine,, her vs. McCain? It'll be like Bubba vs. Dole. McCain won't have a chance.
The republicans better come up with someone or else she will be our next prez.
We really don't have "left" or "right" wing in politcs anymore. Did you notice the way our republican(rightwing) dominated congress voted in the last 12 yrs? There isn't any difference between the 2 parties anymore. They are both bought and paid for by the same corporate interests. Getting real close to becoming an oligarchy, if not one yet.
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Finally somone coming from the middle, which is where most of America stands! The Extremists are in power now, but this will change. 
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Feb 3, 2007, 08:37 PM
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DriverHeaven Addict
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I'll be voting for Rudolf Guiliani or John McCain and I'm hoping the one the loses his bid for the Nomination will run as the others Vice Presidential nominee. I hope Clinton is the nominee for her party though, because I think one of them will win if that's the case.
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Feb 3, 2007, 11:50 PM
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-DH Resident Uber Poster-
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Riverside, CA (right next to the f*ckin train)
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Originally Posted by Sandok
 Course not... And dude, I didn't necessarily mean ya... Just a global feeling I have from some users in general (concerning more than just hilary and bush....)
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Your broad generalizations and stereotyping are not only annoying but ignorant, please take it somewhere other than this thread. Maybe in the Flame Warzone.
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Feb 4, 2007, 04:08 AM
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DriverHeaven Addict
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Wellington, New Zealand
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandok
Funny how you USA guys (well most) are such hardcore extreme righties... 
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They have a different perception of what right and left wing is.
The new leader of the main right-wing party here gave a speach in which he stated "there will always be a welfare state in New Zealand", and although his policy is a little unfinished, hes hinted that he will be expanding some aspects of the welfare state.
Hilarys desire for a nationalised helthcare system would not be considered extreme in most countries.
Sorry for any spelling mistakes, i just bought a new laptop and havent set up any spell check on it or anything yet.
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Feb 4, 2007, 04:38 AM
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DH Team Leader
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Location: Vantaa, Finland
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What it Clinton won't be running for the office but instead Barack Obama is.....
BTW. Political colors in Europe are red for the left and blue for the right. 
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Feb 4, 2007, 12:45 PM
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-DH Resident Uber Poster-
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Riverside, CA (right next to the f*ckin train)
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Liberals are conservatives who haven't won yet...
As soon as they take over completely and change the nation to their ideals they become conservatives.
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Feb 6, 2007, 01:29 PM
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DriverHeaven Lover
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jp306
I'll be voting for Rudolf Guiliani or John McCain and I'm hoping the one the loses his bid for the Nomination will run as the others Vice Presidential nominee. I hope Clinton is the nominee for her party though, because I think one of them will win if that's the case.
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Problem with Guilani is that he's never been conservative.. Pro-abortion, pro-gun control, and what'd you know, he lived with another woman while still married.. Not to mention, wasn't he married to his cousin? Oh ya, he'd fit right in.. He might have done a good job with NY, but not everybody lives in NY, or would tolerate his ethics.
McCain? I live in the state that, unfortunately, has him for a senator.. I wouldn't, haven't, vote for him.
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Feb 6, 2007, 01:31 PM
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DriverHeaven Lover
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The ticket I would vote for is Tom Tancredo/ Ron Paul.. I would actually vote FOR these guys.
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Feb 6, 2007, 01:35 PM
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DriverHeaven Lover
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Quote:
Originally Posted by temeteus82
What it Clinton won't be running for the office but instead Barack Obama is.....
BTW. Political colors in Europe are red for the left and blue for the right. 
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Watch the way hillary's machine tries to destroy this guy. They've already begun with the story on the school he went to as a child. http://www.insightmag.com/Media/Medi...er/Obama_2.htm
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Feb 6, 2007, 03:04 PM
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DriverHeaven Addict
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Location: U.S.A.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OnDborder
Problem with Guilani is that he's never been conservative.. Pro-abortion, pro-gun control, and what'd you know, he lived with another woman while still married..
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That's why I think he has a shot. He's a Republican that won in the Mayorship of the Democrat Capital(NYC). If he can get the Republican nomination, he'll get some of the Democrat's votes as he did in NYC. He's a Hero in NYC after all.
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Feb 6, 2007, 03:59 PM
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DriverHeaven Lover
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Originally Posted by OnDborder
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OMG! And we though Bush was underhanded with McCain in the Carolina Primary. This is a hatchet job.
The bad thing about Hillary is that all her dirty laundry has been aired and she survived it. People have very short memories and are now not shocked by her sordid past. We would have to hear that she killed the Whitewater witnesses in order for her to be derailed. Her strategy of laying low for 8 years might pay off. Next, she will play the gender card like she did in the NY race. "Don't pick on me, I'm a woman. You would not say that about a man, shame on you."
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Feb 14, 2007, 04:57 AM
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DriverHeaven Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Viriginia
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Vote for Hillary HELL NO!!!!
This country is in bad enough shape as it is,why would we want to screw it up any more than it already is.Hell she'll probly have Tipper as her running mate for the VP position can you imagine all the BULL Shi* we would be put through under that administration.GOD WHAT HORRORS!!!!
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