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Old Jan 20, 2007, 10:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hillary makes it official

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070120/...clinton2008_10

Possibly the most polarizing politician to ever run for US president. Many love her, many hate her with a passion.

My reasons not to vote for H. Clinton:

Never held office before carpetbagging for senate in New York, a state she never lived in, by using her name recognition as First Lady.
Caused a fiasco in the health and pharmaceutical industry by proposing unworkable socialistic solutions.
Flip flopped on the Iraq war.
Obvious wrongdoing in the Whitewater scandal was covered up by mysterious deaths.
The cattle futures scam.
Firing of the White House Travel Dept. was done in a despicable way.
Lied about the "vast right wing conspiracy" in defending Bill while knowing he was a philandering horndog.
There's more but I will stop there.

This is a corrupt power hungry woman with no redeeming value.
But that's just my opinion.
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Old Jan 20, 2007, 10:37 AM   #2 (permalink)
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This is a corrupt power hungry woman with no redeeming value.
But that's just my opinion.
I see... well that's your point of view on the matter. I hope that the next president in USA can make USA more popular here in Europe. Now days Bush Jr. is not so popular back here...
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Old Jan 20, 2007, 01:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm not voting for her, but then again... I'm not voting at all.
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Old Jan 20, 2007, 01:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old Jan 20, 2007, 01:54 PM   #5 (permalink)
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no vote = vote of non confidence (if you walk into a ballot both, and not pick any cadidate, they SHOULD have to register that neither were voted for thus, no confidence)

but no one really understands how that system works.

IMO, any registered voter that doesn't end up filling out a ballot should automatically be put into the non confidence catagory....

just a imo.
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Old Jan 20, 2007, 02:08 PM   #6 (permalink)
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no vote = vote of non confidence (if you walk into a ballot both, and not pick any cadidate, they SHOULD have to register that neither were voted for thus, no confidence)

but no one really understands how that system works.

IMO, any registered voter that doesn't end up filling out a ballot should automatically be put into the non confidence catagory....

just a imo.
Or maybe we shouldn't catagorize anybody

I just haven't gotten around to registering for voting. I absolutely hate the DMV.
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Old Jan 20, 2007, 02:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
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not voting means u got nothing to bitch about imo. if u done like the mainstream candidates ... wich i almost always dont... vote for somebody in the green party. u know they wont get elected but if enough votes start showing up fot there 'non-runners' it WILL worry the mainstream guys.
THAT is how you show your dissatisfaction. all not voting does is help them & show that u really dont give a shit &, as i said earlier, doesnt give u a leg to stand on when bitchin. though i have been guilty of that one myself

sfosok, i hate the fn dmv to. & the way cal is governed as a whole.
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Old Jan 20, 2007, 02:33 PM   #8 (permalink)
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If the democratic party goes to elections with her as the candidate, I have a feeling that the republicans will win again.
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Old Jan 20, 2007, 02:38 PM   #9 (permalink)
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If this Bitch becomes our next president the USA will have sunk to a new low. If anybody thinks our life is censored now, wait and see what happens then. Our entertainment will be PG at the most, and she loves money, so our taxes will go through the roof.

Nobody will take her serious. You have to remember how old most of congress and the judges are and where they came from. What about the third world countries we are at war with, they will go on a rampage of so called terror. There are so many reasons for a women not to be president that the servers hosting DH couldn't handle it if they were all stated. A womens nature is what keeps them out of power. If they are appointed any position of power it is for a spokes person at best.
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I don't know yet who I AM voting for, but I'm certainly not going to vote FOR Hillary. It's best to wipe the slate clean and start fresh with someone new.

I still remember that committee she ran about nationalizing the health care system in the US. Secret meetings, proposals to criminalize medical practice done outside of the plan itself, that kind of stuff. That alone is reason enough to make a judgement against her, imo.

The way she became a Senator in NY is another. She's very un-genuine, I feel. Willing to say or do what she has to in order to curry favor.

We just don't need another person like that running the country, imo.

I wish her and her husband would just "Go Away" and shut up.
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Old Jan 20, 2007, 03:32 PM   #11 (permalink)
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If this Bitch becomes our next president the USA will have sunk to a new low. If anybody thinks our life is censored now, wait and see what happens then. Our entertainment will be PG at the most, and she loves money, so our taxes will go through the roof.

Nobody will take her serious. You have to remember how old most of congress and the judges are and where they came from. What about the third world countries we are at war with, they will go on a rampage of so called terror. There are so many reasons for a women not to be president that the servers hosting DH couldn't handle it if they were all stated. A womens nature is what keeps them out of power. If they are appointed any position of power it is for a spokes person at best.

I agree that Hilary is not to be trusted. As for your second paragraph...
It's been a while since the last time I read something this stupid.
There are examples of women in charge that were very good, very strong and definetely not soft on governing. The most famous recent one is of course Margaret Thatcher. (i hope i spell that ok) You are either trying to troll or you are naive or ignorant on the matter. Women have always been as good or bad rulers as men. It is not their nature the reason they are not as many in charge now.
Stupid stupid stupid post.
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I agree that Hilary is not to be trusted. As for your second paragraph...
It's been a while since the last time I read something this stupid.
There are examples of women in charge that were very good, very strong and definetely not soft on governing. The most famous recent one is of course Margaret Thatcher. (i hope i spell that ok) You are either trying to troll or you are naive or ignorant on the matter. Women have always been as good or bad rulers as men. It is not their nature the reason they are not as many in charge now.
Stupid stupid stupid post.
Well both of you are right and wrong.

Women can be trusted with power in the government but giving them this power puts the nation at more risk then putting a man into power. They are built different then men ( before you say it I am not afraid of things that are different) and they physically and mentally have to deal with more than a man does. This sort of stress and emtional diarrhea can be controlled but it is always there and adds more stress.


So overall I think letting a woman control the government would be pretty risky but I'm not against it seeing as every politician is corrupt (regardless of gender).


As for Hillary, I do not trust her (not because she is a woman) but because she is a horrible human being not looking to better the country but give herself more power first.
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So overall I think letting a woman control the government would be pretty risky but I'm not against it seeing as every politician is corrupt (regardless of gender).
Seems to me that letting anybody control the US government is pretty risky.

I don't really know anything about Hillary Clinton, so can't even say if I'd vote for her. She could always just follow her husband's advice, he did fine as president.
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Seems to me that letting anybody control the US government is pretty risky.

I don't really know anything about Hillary Clinton, so can't even say if I'd vote for her. She could always just follow her husband's advice, he did fine as president.
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Old Jan 21, 2007, 12:07 AM   #15 (permalink)
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She could always just follow her husband's advice, he did fine as president.
Thats the funniest thing I have ever heard. I personally strongly disagree with this and know alot of people who would as well.
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