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Nov 17, 2006, 09:54 PM
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A BBC Doc On Da Future Of Israel And Biblical Prophecy As To Iran And Russia Invading
Alright guys,
You might think im just trying to show you these end time video's about how Jesus said things would be up to the end of this age and we have entered that but through current news events (which is factual) it is being unfolded in the middle-east that soon there will be a conflict between Israel and Iran and pretty strong evidence that Israel will strike first seeing as its whole country is at risk if the Iranian President lives up to his threats....on this free non-copyrighted BBC Documentary (with no religious pitch attached) it says that Israel will have to act before summer 2007 and if things go unchecked at UN then its a certainty....worth a watch as this is pretty likely to be another more serious war in the middle-east.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...66392656270502
Well the back-lash from this if it does happen could capture many other country's in a war that this generation hasn't seen up to this date, but here is the religious pitch as it fits in with prophecy.
If this attack happens then according to scripture these country's will invade and make war with Israel which were written for the end days and maybe this is the event that will trigger it off, but it seems to be fitting together imo
The Bible's short forecast of the events that will happen if it kicks off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKIplOTaGAQ
Hardcore stuff especially if its just round the corner
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Nov 17, 2006, 10:19 PM
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Jesus never said how the "end of days" will come. John did, and he was a ... never mind.
Jesus said that there will be a second coming blah blah blah, but nothing about how and what will happen before it.
As for Russian invading....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Russia can't invade shit now. They can't handle a single 700000 people province, and they are going to invade another country? lol
I doubt they could successfully invade even Georgia these days.
One more thing, the "holy fathers" of the church, believed the second coming would come CENTURIES ago. Prove how much they knew. I tell you something, though I don't believe in it, even if it is going to happen I know that they knew shit.
Also, if Jesus wanted for the humans to know when it will happen, he would have said so, he didn't, cause (leaving logic behind) humans were not supposed to know when, that is the whole purpose of the second coming.
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Nov 17, 2006, 10:43 PM
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OP: would you admit that.. Religious leader asserting 'the end of the world comming' would encourage church attendance?
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Nov 18, 2006, 01:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maddogg6
OP: would you admit that.. Religious leader asserting 'the end of the world comming' would encourage church attendance?
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At the end of the day you proberly know enough bible prophecy as to wat the bible predicts will happen in the end days such as the destuction of the present temple snd the rebuilding of a new one which a few famous verses imply the anti-christ will visit, and many detailed events will happen during this time when (if) it kicks off and im guessing you know the book of daniel, ezekial, gospels and many other bits and bobs leading up to revelation, then revelation itself....and lets say for my arguements sake that all the bible predicts comes true down to the very detail....would you then believe or would you still dis-miss it as a lucky guess a few dozen times with-in a short period of time?
If u dont know the prophecy's im sorry, im just guessing you do as u seem to know some of the bible....
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Nov 18, 2006, 03:27 AM
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There have been hundreds, if not thousands of cases throughout history where people have believed the end of days is right around the corner, or has already begun. Every disastrous event is considered to be the apocalypse by someone.
If Iran and Israel do go to war, it will just be another page in the Brutal history of mankind. If by some small chance it does result in the destruction of mankind, it will be because of mans own doing. There is no reason to think there is something supernatural about it.
And just a question: Do you know who wrote revelation and under what circumstances it was written?
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Nov 18, 2006, 03:29 AM
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The beauty about the end of the wolrd scenario is that everyone who ever predicted it... Was wrong 
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Nov 18, 2006, 03:43 AM
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Tail Razer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mountain_Fire77
If u dont know the prophecy's im sorry, im just guessing you do as u seem to know some of the bible....
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Well - I know when a questions been avoided....
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Nov 18, 2006, 04:02 AM
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VETUS INFLATIO
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I hate the BBC bullshit...
nuff said..
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Nov 18, 2006, 12:43 PM
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Jesus also said repeatedly that the second coming would come before the end of the current generation when addressing his disciples. Considering that generation ended a little under 2000 years ago I think there may be some flaws in the prophecies. Revelations predicts that the second coming will happen within John's lifetime.
Revelations also said there would be specific problems with specific Christian churches before the second coming, churches that cannot ever have those problems because they no longer exist.
Last edited by TheBlackCat; Nov 18, 2006 at 03:32 PM.
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Nov 18, 2006, 02:09 PM
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VETUS INFLATIO
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I have my own convictions...that is why I am trying to have as much fun as I can right now....I am living on borrowed time anyway...

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Nov 18, 2006, 02:22 PM
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-DH Resident Uber Poster-
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Is that John Kerry on the left?
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Nov 18, 2006, 02:57 PM
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Demonic
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SFOSOK
Is that John Kerry on the left?
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Hahaha! The resemblance is striking!

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Nov 18, 2006, 03:31 PM
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Indeed it is. Weird.
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Nov 19, 2006, 01:58 PM
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I also think, because of they way they used to communicate, the 'end of the world' may have been refering the fall of the churches power. Which was inevitable anyway as historically religious leaders were removed via war - but now more so by peoples choice, as we as a society no longer accept differences in religious views as justification for war like it was back when the bible was supposivly authored.
So, I see too many things in the bible that are taken literally - but seem obvious parables to me but invite arguement - and is why we no longer speak in that way - as we have learned to articulate ourselves more literally/directly with our growing common vocabulary.
AND - we all refer to the bible - like its a one of a kind and unique text...
For a long time, I wondered about the 'King James Edition' seen in so many hotels. The word 'edition' infers 'editing'. And with out the verified (and scrutinized) original text we cant know for certain what was edited - and the why, makes most sense it was editied for MANS benefit, more specifically in this case - king james.
(I've read about theories that king james removed references of re-incarnation because he worried he would loose power if the 'peasants' of his kingdom figured out he could return as a peasant and vice versa.. ?? I dunno if I believe that either... - but made me really do some thinking on this. Prolly avoided peasant mass suicide, I suspect as well, and served multiple purposes if this is true)
No matter WHO gets credit for writing the bible - man edited it - and IS admitted/advertised with that word 'edition'. So, as far as Im concerned - anything but the 'positive messages' contained with in it - should NEVER be taken literally for this reason as well.
As for the 'end of the world' - All we should worry about is if we cause it or not - not predict when it happens. Arguing these 'predictions' just makes it justifiable for fanatics to pave the road to it, and I fear would only make it a 'self fullfilling prophecy'.
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Nov 19, 2006, 02:03 PM
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Tail Razer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SFOSOK
Is that John Kerry on the left?
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Oh crap... that does look strikingly like him...
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