As an American citizen I just want to stop for a minute and thank.......

Sandok

Muslims aren't usually like that... My cousin's very good friend was killed by muslims... I mean, he is indian okay (thus hindu) and was living in the UK and he got a gf who was from dubai (muslim) and all. They enjoyed and blablabla their parents didn't know but finally, they decided to marry. Of course, as Indians, Hindus aren't compatible with Muslims mostly and thus, they said they won't marry. However, the girl's parents wanted the marriage and all... But since the guy was refusing the marriage (because of his folks), this somehow isn't acceptable with the muslim religion and they got him murdered (castrated, torttured and all),

Is that being ghadnish? I think not.

Drakon

It has always been that way, mate.

HawgsHead

Yes.Sorry about the spelling.It's a problem of mine.I spell everything just like it sounds!

temeteus82

Ok, you have that still have that paper. I'd like to read it ...

HawgsHead

Good Lord no....that was 23 years ago.I'm 45 now.An old fart.

temeteus82

Just wanted to see what you wrote about Stalin. He had some serious issues... Leading to that he killed 99% of his military commanders at the beginning of WWII.

Pompey

Do I seriously need to list the brutal, barbaric customs in Hinduism? Similar things happen in India, and expat Indian families. Something like that might happen in India if someone tried to marry outside their own class (lets not forget the status of the untouchables…im sure your parents taught you about them right?). The British of course put a stop, or at least partially eradicated many of the customs.

There are extremists in every religion and every culture. I wasnt saying all muslims are like Gandhi, I was saying what a good gesture they made. Just like Gandhi who had no hard feelings towards the British, the Muslims reached out to someone who had just vandalised their place of worship. I for one think they should be commended for making such a gesture.

You just described a case where cultural prejudices prevailed. Why didnt your Indian friends want their son to marry a muslim? Why did your cousin's friend bow to pressure and decide not to marry her? The even you described was appalling, and I have every sympathy for his family but it is by no means a reflection of the wider muslim community. You said that Muslims dont usually do what I just described. What you have described is just as unusual if not more so.

Sandok

I'm not saying India is perfect. Dude I'm not even Indian anymore cept by birth but that is something that happens more often than the problem of casts (that don't exist in the most modern parts of india). Those parents were from Dubai (pretty modern imho) and it still didn't stop em from being uber extremist.

And I know it's not ALL muslims. I know plenty who wouldn't do things like that but imho, in our current world, the muslim religion is the one with the most extremists. They are the youngest major religion, that surely contributes

Pompey

It has been argued that Islam is just 400 years behind Christianity (although this may be an explanation, it is no excuse).

For me, there are many questions around Islam. There are many peaceful muslims, but then there are the extremist...who make up 90% of the terrorists in the world. Some emphasise the violent verses of the Quran, some the peaceful passages. I think this site needs a Muslim...one who doesn’t do drive-bys.

BWX

Yeah they don't mean anybody any harm.

HawgsHead

He killed 40% of his military!The guy was very paranoid.He thought everyone was out to get him.

Maddogg6

Wait a minute... ??? - you use an editorial cartoon to back up your statements.... AMERICANS RELEASED THIS AS AN EDITORIAL of what THEY *THINK* is IRANS viewpoint. (check out the location of these people)

AND where does it say ANYTHING BUT IRAN - not muslums - not hezbulah....

How is this proof that the hezbulah (or anyone else for that matter) are terrorists?

They MUST have an inside look at foriegn affairs - they ALSO publish
A site that caters to car painters...

How silly of me to doubt they are privvy to insight beyond the reuters thier site links too.... Isreal MUST be the good guys - Bush MUST be on the 'good guys' side - and their abilty to finance the arms we send over couldnt possibly have anything to do with anything.
Hell, If Bush had a brain - he'd be filling hezbulahs wish lists as well - if they can afford our wares that is.... But he should consider bulk discount when added up with Isreals tab.

Open yur eyes guys.....
The above IS to be considered 'motive'? - And 'means' is a given - for a president to sell weapons - no problemo... Now, in a court room - PEOPLE (regular citizens that is) have spent many years in jail in simliar 'motive & means' circumstance for charges MUCH less than treason..

Even if HE DIDNT cause it - he profiting from their skirmish - or at least someone HERE is.

HawgsHead

True.Someone ALWAYS profits from war.Lets go back to 1964 to a place in time called call the Gulf of Tonkin incident.A couple of years back,in 1962 or so JFK sent US Army advisors to a little known strip of land called South Vietman.{Now,mind you ALL this is just 1 incident that wll be put on the table at this point.The 2nd thing I wii remind you of is this is NOT about the $$$ we will make on war.This is about killing an American President.Now,as roumor has it JFK wanted to take advisors OUT of South Vietnam.In other words he wanted the US OUT!Not to have a part in a civil war in South East Asia.BUT,NO ONE LIKED THAT IDEA...AT ALL.fron the Joint Chief's to the sec.def{the bastard that he was,and still is}right on up to the VP..Linden Baynes Johnson.{Can U start seeing a little light at the end of the tunel yet?Is 1 plus 1 starting to look like 2 yet?}So,from here,somehow, those men have the Commamder-n-Chief of the United States of America killed.Guess whos in charge now...Good ole LBJ.So 1 day a little later a couple of US Navy patroll boats{I dony remember the class}starts taking pot shots at these patroll boats that are 20 times the size of the little boats that are shooting at the American ships y the way}And thats how the whole Vietnam war starts.But the thing that really gets me is that now,to thia very day.Not 1 Navy officer or enlisted man can remember seeing the small boat and where near the American boats OR taking shots at them .1 Day later LBJ starts seletive bombimg from Carriers in the Gulf.And the rest is history.

temeteus82

That's why we were able to beat them in winterwar

BWX

Well they admitted they are terrorists.. it is a known fact.

Falstaff

Hezbullah are freedom fighters...
launching missles at the Zionist devils will surely loosen the yoke of oppresion our Palestinian brothers are burdened with at this time.
Lets just be real about this, in a country where the gene pool is pretty shallow and men out number the women 12 to 1, doesnt it seem consistent with other radical muslim movements to promote killing for socio-economic and religious reasons, at least to weed out the surplus population of mal-cotents.
If not the country of Israel, these so called freedom fighters would be fighting with someone else.
I wish Israel would just stop worrying about Iran and Syria and wipe the worthless bastards from the face of the earth..but then, that is the narrow view.

BWX

They need to worry about Iran and Syria, since that's where Hezbollah are getting 100 million dollars for weapons, and where they are getting trained, and that's who's behind it all anyway.. Did they not find Iranian soldiers killed fighting along side Hezbolla?

Falstaff

wasnt confirmed...
like weapons of mass destruction, I get all my information from the British Press...btw...they still believe that Elvis is alive too..LOL

Its a hell of a thing, when countries go to war. weeping for the lives of th soldiers on both sides when women and children are dying all around them...

HawgsHead

Hey man...Elvis is still alive here too!!

Maddogg6

Why? because a cartoon or Reuters says so.... pfff.

WTF does ANY one here know about that situation.... I dont... but I DO KNOW this- its ALWAYS about $$$$$$$$ (and the benefits wealth provides like power and influence) for someone.

Yeah - Id like to hear that audio 'We are Hezbulah and we are terrorists' - I must have missed that one (I ONLY see the media and people here make the claim) - Do you know their language? I don't. So we rely on others 'translation' - most likely the medias - and knowing they are out to make a buck as well ...

Did you see mike wallace interview the Iran pres...

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/60mi...main3415.shtml
He didnt come off to me as a radical, he seemed quite lucid and made some good points. Like.... (paraphrasing - I have a pornographic memory, just not in the ears)

Me - I dunno what to beleive - OTHER THAN - good old greed. $$$ / power

And the $64,000 question is - WHO is benefitting from all of this?

edit:

sorry for being OT - but I was just responding... 'Dont blame me - I didnt do it'.

BWX

Damn you sound like a terrorist yourself.. That's exactly what they'd say. No he was not lucid, he dodged all important questions and sounds like a nutcase radical.

BWX