Lebanon Israel Conflict

SFOSOK

While that sucks to hear, they don't really fight wars they just occupy then leave when they think things are getting better. The minute they leave it goes back to the way it was. I respect all soldiers though.

HawgsHead

I will tell you the defination of useless.....the UN.Thats useless.The US pays 60% of the budget of the UN.The Brits & Aussies pay most of whats left.Waisted taxpayer dollars.MY money.For a slew of bleeding heart liberals.I wish my govt. would throw the UN out of this country and NEVER give it another cent!Thats real estate in New York City that could be put to good use.When I joined the USAF I pledged allegiance to the United States of America and to uphold Her constatution,and to the USAF.I would NEVER put on a baby blue helmet.And by the way.I voted for George Bush.....twice.

BWX

yeah the UN is a waste of space.. a corrupt bunch of thieves..

Pompey

Oh come on! You dont seriously think Hezbollah got their weapons by air freight?
They were snuck across the border or manufactured at home. To bomb civilian infrastructure the offending state must prove it had military objectives. The airport was not. Hezbollah’s leadership don’t travel business class on emirates, they go in and out the same way as the weapons do. Have any Hezbollah leaders been captured?? NO!

I believe ive already responded to that, so ill just do a little copy and paste: Whoever is saying its the civilians own fault for being there, look at the actions taken by Israel. Those who have the means to flee have, the people that are left for the most part cant afford to leave - its like Hurricane Katrina. And for those who do want to leave, it is incredibly difficult because Israel has blockaded the ports, bombed the airport and destroyed the roads. Many are too terrified to leave their homes. How the hell are they supposed to get out?

What is UNICEF going to do? Fight the terrorists off with sacks of grain and good will? They are a humanitarian organisation not an armed force. I am not defending the actions oh Hezbollah im saying the Israeli response is disproportionate.

temeteus82

Must thank Israel for killing UN troops in the area and shelling rescue team that went to see is there any one alive....

Gabriel_Etranil

Warning the civilians is a prerequisite to attacking civilian areas, making it not illegal. So you did not respond to what I was refering to. Since you wanted to bring up Katrina where was the Lebanese government to evacuate it civilians from the impending disaster. Katrina was labeled all Bush's fault, the National Government was supposed to be the one to evacuated and provide relief to everybody harmed by Katrina. So if your going to make a comparision to Katrina make a proper one. But according to the Hezbollah leader he told members of the Lebanese Government of Hezbollah going to go into Israel to kidnap soldiers for an exchange. They supported it and both them and the Hezbollah leader believed Israel would not retaliate.
The UN(international community, or whatever) sat by and did nothing so they are responsible for everything that has happend to Israel and to Lebanon by their inaction to do anything to stop the current, prior, and inpending violence.

BWX

No they aren't.. how are you supposed to win a war? Act UN-disproportionate? No, they have to do what they have to do to disarm the terrorists.




How do you know how they got there? Manufactured at home? Syrian missiles manufactured in Lebanon?

Yes An airport is a military target.


If they haven't been captured, they have been killed... or will be..


You say you don't defend Hezbollah, but you attack Israel.. so in fact you are defending Hezbollah.. Defending their right to exist and attack Israel.
It's obvious you are on Hezbollah's side.

BWX

Yes I am sure they did it on purpose.. No they didn't..

Also what is the UN doing there? If they sit around and have tea with Hezbollah during a war, they run the risk of getting bombed accidentally.

They shouldn't even be there.. they obviously aren't dong a good job.. been there for 20 years doing nothing..

temeteus82

Well when Israel Air force dropped that smart weapon there were only four UN workers in the bunker, no Hezbollah there at the time.
Tell me then how-to remove terrorist organisation that is using basic tactics from WW2 to resist Israel... Yeah you can try to kill them with high-tech weapons and create more support for their cause...

BWX

I think they do that by pounding them until they run out of weapons.. I am sure it won't get that far.. and it will go back to the way it has been for 4000 years.

kelticknight

first off /UN is a apeace keeping force,not fighting force,there to report whats going on,maybe you should check it out before YOU reply about things you seem to know nothing about
from friends serving in UN forces there,this is only the start
Un till a UN OR NATO force is deployed there of 15,000 plus troops,it will continue
terroists oare wrong anyways in this,problem have support of othere,israel is wrong in way they shelling and not hitting targets
so boths side are wrong
the terroists started this round with kidnapping israel personnel,that is fact,the israel reacted,but lately have over reacted and given more support to the terroists in they way they have reacted

Gabriel_Etranil

A correction on my part I started refering to UNICEF in my postings, what it actually should be is UNIFIL. I don't know whether or not it was UNICEF or UNIFIL whose vehicle was used in a kidnapping.

Pompey

Ok, let’s nuke the Middle East. Its the civilians fault for being there. It doesn’t matter; anything is justified so long as it kills the terrorists.

I said they were either snuck across the border or manufactured at home. An airport is a piece of civilian infrastructure, which can only be bombed if it being used for military purposes. There is not evidence of that and considering the authorities would know if weapons were on a plane the likelihood of weapons travelling that way are slim to none.

no. How many times do I have to say this: I AM NOT DEFENDING TERRORIST ACTIONS. Criticising one side does not automatically mean support for the other; unlike some I have the ability to consider both sides.

Wrong.

According to article 53 of the 4th Geneva Convention no private property, state property can be destroyed unless its a military necessity. Indiscriminate attacks or attacks that affect civilians disproportionately to the military gains are also prohibited under the Geneva conventions.

It was a proper one. People in the path of hurricane Katrina were warned to get out, but many couldn’t afford to get out so got caught in the path of the storm. Its the same in Lebanon, although people were advised to get out many simply cant afford to.

Yousaif

So Hezbollah is a signatory of the Geneva Accord now? Or are we speaking of Iran, who backs the Hezbos?

Something tells me they aren't manufacturing those Silkworm missiles in their basements.

The Hezbians have been preparing for this for the past several years, with DEEP bunkers under mosques and private homes. Pompey you apparently have all of the answers in your island paradise, please enlighten us and instead of telling us what they shouldn't be doing and what they can't do (in your opinion), tell us what should be done to resolve this issue.

You may not want to try to bring the UN into this as they are more impotent than ever since Kofi took over years ago.

temeteus82

They are smuggled in trough Syria...

Yousaif

And they originate in Iran.

BWX

And they blow up in Israel.

temeteus82

And then we have WW3???

Falstaff

Yes....
Stand
The
F*ck
By

As I said in a post almost two years ago...
we need to look to Syria and Russia...
keep your eyes on Megido...

HawgsHead

Are you a CHRISTian falstaff?Sounds like you have been reading a bit of Daniel & Revelation.All of this is foretold in those 2 books of the Bible.

temeteus82

Why to Russia???

Yousaif