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Apr 14, 2006, 07:40 PM
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irans leader threatens israel again
http://famulus.msnbc.com/famulusintl...ts=41420061731
somebody should put a 10mm hollowpoint in his turban. the palestinians & israelis are actually attempting to work thing out & soem of tghe surrounding countries are also starting to lighten up & this jackass wants to stir the pot. 
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Apr 14, 2006, 07:47 PM
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We'll probably end up bombing them if he doesn't pipe down.
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Apr 14, 2006, 07:53 PM
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i hope not. i really wished islam would start policing their own.
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Apr 14, 2006, 08:12 PM
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Scary news indeed. This guy really seems like he's going for it. Along with that scary quote of Israel will be annihilated.. this one stood out for as well:
''The Zionist regime is a rotten, dried tree that will be eliminated by one storm.''
Storm?. as in nuclear winter?.. For once I see a reason to stop this at ALL costs and that includes war. Or what will turn out to be WWW III.
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Apr 14, 2006, 08:19 PM
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This, my friends, is why church and state should ALWAYS be seperated.
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Apr 15, 2006, 02:56 AM
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Or a reason why crazy dictators should all be taken out.
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Apr 15, 2006, 03:43 AM
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Anyone here actually believe Iran wants a peaceful nuclear program? Besides trodas of course.
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Apr 15, 2006, 04:20 AM
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Demonic
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Originally Posted by Nacht
This, my friends, is why church and state should ALWAYS be seperated.
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indeed...
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Apr 15, 2006, 04:27 AM
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Hitler didn't base his idiocy on religion.. It is the evil dictators that are the problem I think. They will use any reason to kill and destroy... doesn't matter if religion ever existed or not.
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Apr 15, 2006, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by BWX
Or a reason why crazy dictators should all be taken out.
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Sorry to dissapoint you
But BUSH is not far from beeing a crazy dictator either...from his latest actions
At least as how most of us Europeans see it
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Originally Posted by Pompey
Anyone here actually believe Iran wants a peaceful nuclear program? Besides trodas of course.
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I do not know about trodas
and i can not say for certain if these is 100% for peacefull reasons or not
but starting Wars without having proof for what you claim is not going to get you anywhere either and certainly you are not going to get the support from the rest of the world
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Originally Posted by BWX
Hitler didn't base his idiocy on religion..
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Hitler was a fascist maniac to be sure but i would not call him a idiot or stupid
He conquered most of the Europe
and it needed a Alliance of 3 countries united to beat him down (England, Your Country & Russia from the east) plus several hits from local resistance groups from other countries that exchausted his resources and slowed him down behind the lines
3 against 1
and technology that USA have not even dreamed off at that time like the V2 missile, experimental jet crafts , Super Panzer tanks (not remember their exact true name right now)
and if he had not also lost a major force from the east in Russia from the Russian winter maybe things would be different...
Hitler was many bad things but certainly not a idiot
Last edited by Alien1; Apr 15, 2006 at 05:49 AM.
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Apr 15, 2006, 06:03 AM
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Who cares, it's none of our business and let them kill each other... We are overpopulated anyways 
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Apr 15, 2006, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Alien1
Hitler was a fascist maniac to be sure but i would not call him a idiot or stupid
He conquered most of the Europe
and it needed a Alliance of 3 countries united to beat him down (England, Your Country & Russia from the east) plus several hits from local resistance groups from other countries that exchausted his resources and slowed him down behind the lines
3 against 1
and technology that USA have not even dreamed off at that time like the V2 missile, experimental jet crafts , Super Panzer tanks (not remember their exact true name right now)
and if he had not also lost a major force from the east in Russia from the Russian winter maybe things would be different...
Hitler was many bad things but certainly not a idiot
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Yet you missed the entire point.
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Apr 15, 2006, 06:10 AM
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what you want is no leader and no religion. then we are fine 
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Apr 15, 2006, 08:51 AM
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This is a tough one, I don't like the idea of the US/UK dictating to any country whether or not they are allowed to develop a nuclear program, its a scientific advance that we made, so why shouldn't others follow suit especially in a case like this one where there are peaceful applications of the technology. But the idea of some loony running around with nukes in the Middle East scares me...
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Apr 15, 2006, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by BWX
Hitler didn't base his idiocy on religion.. It is the evil dictators that are the problem I think. They will use any reason to kill and destroy... doesn't matter if religion ever existed or not.
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Following qoute from "Mein Kampf"
Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.
--- Hitler did indeed base at least some of his actions on his religious beliefs.
try a google for "hilter religion" ... to suggest that Hitler's actions were not at least influenced by religion is either disingenuos or ignorant of Hitler's history.
Hitler wasn't the only one to hate Jews during this period many Christians of the day also did. Hitler was raised Catholic I believe.
Back to Iran, yeah their president is a loudmouth. I really don't want anymore countries to have nuclear weapons at all. It would be wonderfull if all nuke weapons just up and disappeared one day....but that isn't going to happen.
But the talk floating around Washington this last week about a limited nuke strike is completely bonkers. So we have a nut in the mid-east who wants nuculear weapons ...and...nuts in this country who want to use nuke weapons to stop him from getting nuke weapons.
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Apr 15, 2006, 11:27 AM
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Just because he blabbed about "god" at times means nothing. His only "religion" was he thinking he was GOD.. His hatred of Jews or any other people wasn't based on any religious belief. This moron in Iran also uses religion to spout hatred- that doesn't mean he represents what the religion is all about.
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Apr 16, 2006, 03:21 AM
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Iran does not need Nuclear power as it is sitting on vast reserves of *cheap* oil. Its not like its gleaming modern cities need the vast power produced by Nuclear reactors.
As far as I know however Iran is not breaking international law (in relation to Nuclear weapons/power) and we are trying to punish them for something they may or may not do further down the track.
I think we should also force Israel to give up its WMD's - that would take away much of the justification they have for gaining them. Not likely but hey I can dream.
In the case of Nuclear weapons, you gain the right to have them upon acquiring them.
Also anti-semitism may not be a part of mainstream Christianity now but it was back then and it had been for hundreds of years.
See here,
Igonre the picture at the top lol.
Last edited by Pompey; Apr 16, 2006 at 03:41 AM.
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Apr 19, 2006, 09:34 AM
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u do u take all that news for granted ??
u have already known u cant trust the media 100%
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Apr 19, 2006, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by moeness86
u do u take all that news for granted ??
u have already known u cant trust the media 100%
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if you are reffering to the topic of this thread, then yes it can be taken for granted when mutiple governments are reacting to it & it is a stance iran(governmet) has taken for many,many years
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Apr 19, 2006, 11:13 AM
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Well, I don't condone such statements by Iran's president, but was this not foreseeable? Iran and USA have been hostile to each other since at least 1979. Then, USA invades Iraq on a pretext that turns out to be false and is occupying that country by force with fairly siginificant military forces within easy striking distance from Iran. Then, George Bush declares Iran part of the "axis of evil" to include them with Iraq which we just invaded.
If you were in charge of Iran, would you not take any steps needed to try and secure the safety of your nation and its people? By almost any means possible?
Of course you would. Don't think that the USA and its middle east policies had nothing to do with this latest development. But, of course, according to George Bush we're "fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here" and "the world is safer without Saddam"! What a joke.
Ferd-
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Apr 19, 2006, 11:47 AM
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this isnt about protection. it is about preemptive strike. irans wanting nukes has little to do with the us & more to do with becoming the premier power in that region and forcing islam down everybodys throats. as an added benefit they get to nuke israel.
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Apr 19, 2006, 12:16 PM
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It's all about power
Either if it is about BUSH or about the Iran president
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Apr 19, 2006, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferdinand_L
Well, I don't condone such statements by Iran's president, but was this not foreseeable? Iran and USA have been hostile to each other since at least 1979. Then, USA invades Iraq on a pretext that turns out to be false and is occupying that country by force with fairly siginificant military forces within easy striking distance from Iran. Then, George Bush declares Iran part of the "axis of evil" to include them with Iraq which we just invaded.
If you were in charge of Iran, would you not take any steps needed to try and secure the safety of your nation and its people? By almost any means possible?
Of course you would. Don't think that the USA and its middle east policies had nothing to do with this latest development. But, of course, according to George Bush we're "fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here" and "the world is safer without Saddam"! What a joke.
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Yeah, that is a great way to help protect his country, spouting all this nonsense about wanting to destroy another member of the UN. Then saying they are closer to nukes.. then spouting about having suicide bombers ready to strike western targets... Hmm, I wonder why we would call him part of the axis of evil? maybe because he is threatening to destroy another nation? Maybe because he is a loony loose canon trying to make nukes?
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Apr 19, 2006, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Alien1
It's all about power
Either if it is about BUSH or about the Iran president
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that is pretty much a meaningless statement. that is true of every political leader in the world & a good % of the entire population.
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Apr 19, 2006, 04:06 PM
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