Athlon XP Wiremod

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jan 13, 2006, 06:31 PM

If I do the wiremod, and the CPU doesn't take it (i.e. I connect the two pins to unlock the multiplier) will it in any way negatively affect my mobo or CPU or system if I just try it out then take it off if it doesn't work?

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jan 23, 2006, 03:51 PM

Anyone....

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jan 23, 2006, 04:26 PM

FYI: the wire trick it only unlocks the "lower" multipliers, like the really low ones ex. 6X
though there is a guide some where about what pins to short to try to obcheve a certain multipulyer ... though with a super locked cpu your probubly still

just buy an AMD 64 already!

pr0digal jenius · Jan 23, 2006, 04:39 PM

i thimk, if i recall, to et it completely unlocked, you hafta mod the bridges?

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jan 23, 2006, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Neon_Cowboy

FYI: the wire trick it only unlocks the "lower" multipliers, like the really low ones ex. 6X
though there is a guide some where about what pins to short to try to obcheve a certain multipulyer ... though with a super locked cpu your probubly still

just buy an AMD 64 already!

Why the hell would I, I don't have any money left these days and I don't need a 64 bit O/S and if I could get my mobo to do it this one would perform fine.

And I know its the lower multiples, its 6 - 13 which is fine and I know the pins

My question was, if you read it...if I do it and it doesn't work because its superlocked do I fry my chip or not?

@ PJ: No I don't have to mod the bridges I just want 6 - 13 open so I can go 216 FSB and get near as I can to 2600 Mhz.

xTmDarren · Feb 3, 2006, 06:07 PM

HA! I've done this mod before- But never got it to work when I had the 3000+ Barton. But from what I can remember only the Athlon XP 3000+ Barton (400MHz) CPUs manufactured in a certain time frame can be modded, and even then only a few motherboard actually would read it right. I wish I could remember which motherboard I had

I Believe it was tha Asus A7N motherboard. So it could of been my motherboard. Anyways when I did this mod all my CPU would do was read like it did before I did the mod. I tried redoing the wiremod about 5 or 6 times and nothing. Everything just read what it was at default. I ended up leaving the wire on and just selling the PC about 6 months later, and still to this day the CPU runs great and hasnt had any problem from what the guy that baught it from tells me.

Sorry I couldnt be the greatest help. But like I said. Nothing I did seemed to mess up the CPU at all.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Feb 3, 2006, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by H3X4D3C1M4L

Why the hell would I, I don't have any money left these days and I don't need a 64 bit O/S and if I could get my mobo to do it this one would perform fine.

And I know its the lower multiples, its 6 - 13 which is fine and I know the pins

My question was, if you read it...if I do it and it doesn't work because its superlocked do I fry my chip or not?

@ PJ: No I don't have to mod the bridges I just want 6 - 13 open so I can go 216 FSB and get near as I can to 2600 Mhz.

becouse a 1.8 ghz "3000+" AMD 64 is faster then a 3200+ 2.2 ghz socket A
when it comes to things (like gameing)

H3X4D3C1M4L · Feb 3, 2006, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Neon_Cowboy

becouse a 1.8 ghz "3000+" AMD 64 is faster then a 3200+ 2.2 ghz socket A
when it comes to things (like gameing)

You'd be surprised.

Not fast enough to justify the price

fobis · Mar 2, 2006, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Neon_Cowboy

becouse a 1.8 ghz "3000+" AMD 64 is faster then a 3200+ 2.2 ghz socket A
when it comes to things (like gameing)

I don't know if I'd go that far.... My CPU beat several Athlon64 3200+ CPU scores on 3DMark06 in that 3DMark06 thread in the benching section...
Check this website out for a pin mod guide: http://www.ocinside.de/go_e.html?/ht..._workshop.html

BWX · Mar 3, 2006, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fobis

I don't know if I'd go that far.... My CPU beat several Athlon64 3200+ CPU scores on 3DMark06 in that 3DMark06 thread in the benching section...
Check this website out for a pin mod guide: http://www.ocinside.de/go_e.html?/ht..._workshop.html

That's an awesome site.

EDIT... they got my new CPU speed wrong though.. it is actually 2200mhz default.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Mar 3, 2006, 09:46 AM

Incidentaly enough thats the sight I was using to do it.

I guess I'll do it when I work up the balls for it.... or have another machine to fall back on

fobis · Mar 3, 2006, 08:19 PM

Well, worst comes to worst, your computer won't boot if the pin mod is unstable at the settings you set. It shouldn't fry anything unless you really screwed something up. So, I would say go for it.
However, you may be able to buy an Athlon XP-M and make up the cost by selling your current CPU. I bought my CPU that I have right now for $60 and I sold my old Athlon XP 2500+ (with an unlocked multiplier) for $60. My current CPU is a far better overclocker than my old one.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Mar 3, 2006, 08:47 PM

Yeah. I'll go for it one day

nitrousoxide52 · Mar 3, 2006, 09:24 PM

I was going to do the mod with my 3000+ (it was the 400 FSB one btw) but I decided not to, I wouldn't be seeing too much of a benefit over the overclock I could already pull with it.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Mar 4, 2006, 12:56 AM

Yeah but 400FSB ones are different multiplier so its a different situation. They use a 10.5 multiple, I'm stuck on a 13

fobis · Mar 4, 2006, 01:08 AM

And you also have a lower bus speed, so overclocking from 333FSB to 400FSB will create a world of difference for you. Actually, I don't know why you have your RAM running at 400FSB when your CPU is at 333FSB. I've heard that Athlon XP's work best in synchronous mode, not asynchronous like you have it now.

BWX · Mar 4, 2006, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fobis

And you also have a lower bus speed, so overclocking from 333FSB to 400FSB will create a world of difference for you. Actually, I don't know why you have your RAM running at 400FSB when your CPU is at 333FSB. I've heard that Athlon XP's work best in synchronous mode, not asynchronous like you have it now.

yeah that's very true.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Mar 4, 2006, 12:22 PM

Well I've been flipping between it. Its only really true on nForce2 based boards. KT600's don't seem to care much either way so I Was just running it like that because then when I edge up the FSB my memory stays at FSB+33 so I see how far the RAM will go. Even when I 1:1 it inbetween where my PCI divider is either too low for the speed im running or too high unless I go up 10 more MHz, I don't have the guts to push the chip farther than I know is safe. The eventual plan is to get the FSB and RAM 1:1 at 216MHz then just push the chip as high as it'll go. With a 13 multiplier, I can get up to 2750 something which is just beyond the limit of most AXP's

fobis · Mar 4, 2006, 04:25 PM

Umm, overclocking on a KT600 board is a baaaaad idea. If you clock to a higher FSB than to what you set your jumper to, then the PCI bus will start overclocking with it since there is no PCI lock. That could lead to some pretty serious problems, it did for me when I tried on a KT600 board. My SATA controller went berserk and the partition on my HDD was damaged.
If you really want to overclock like you're talking about, then get an nForce2 board. DFI's and Epox's overclocked well in the Socket A days, IIRC. The Asus A7N8X is also a very nice board to look into.

EDITED for spelling and grammarical issues.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Mar 4, 2006, 06:36 PM

I know that. I've pushed my PCI bus as far as 37MHz without issue. So it isn't a bad idea, it just gives me more PCI bandwidth

The only reason your SATA would go nuts is if you had a bad mobo design. My PATA and SATA controllers are tied directly onto the southbridge and don't go over the PCI bus because of the way the motherboard is designed.

fobis · Mar 4, 2006, 06:51 PM

Uhh, everything except AGP goes over the PCI bus to talk to the CPU. You can even look through SiS Sandra. If you look at the devices hooked up to the PCI bus, you'll see your SATA and PATA controllers...

H3X4D3C1M4L · Mar 4, 2006, 06:53 PM

So says they. Sandra also says I have 2 ISA slots which I know I don't.

Either way it works fine at PCI 37, regardless of whatever else is on the PCI bus

fobis · Mar 4, 2006, 06:54 PM

Ooooo, you're only running the PCI bus at 37MHz? Oh, ok. That's why. That tiny overclock won't do any harm. But when I was doing that kind of stuff, I had the PCI bus clocked to around 47MHz. That's when my troubles started

EDIT
Or did I go higher than that? lol, it's been so long since I used that board... I'm so glad I don't have to anymore... It was a POS. I had the ECS KT600a or something like that.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Mar 4, 2006, 07:38 PM

The KV7 is a beast...the KV7-V's kinda suck but the original KV7's are awesome.

Vcore I have the option of 1.1 all the way to 2.375.. and everything inbetween.

Oh yeah

fobis · Mar 5, 2006, 02:42 PM

Wow, that's a lot of voltage settings.
I really don't like VIA anymore ever since my horrible experience with their Socket A chipsets (KM400, KT400, KT600, etc). Even in this day in age, their chipsets are for the super-low budget people most of the time and they just don't perform well. Maybe I'm wrong, but almost nobody in their right minds would buy VIA based boards anymore, especially for AMD's and such.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Mar 5, 2006, 02:51 PM

Well no one does because nForce 4's and ATI's are the only ones offering worthwhile dual graphics solution. I think you just got burned by a cheap mobo. I happen to like my mobo and its more than competitive enough against other AthlonXP boards I find.

fobis · Mar 5, 2006, 11:33 PM

Yeah, ECS (Elite Computer Group or whatever it is) is crap. Oh, my gosh, I have never seen such crap in my life. I've never really heard good things about them, though.
I wouldn't have had that board, but I suppose that's what you get when you don't buy your own components... (I didn't, back then)

H3X4D3C1M4L · Mar 6, 2006, 10:15 AM

Well I was a whore with mobo brands before I went ABit, I haven't looked back since

g35x · Mar 6, 2006, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H3X4D3C1M4L

Well I was a whore with mobo brands before I went ABit, I haven't looked back since

no because you paid them they didnt pay you

H3X4D3C1M4L · Mar 6, 2006, 03:13 PM

Ah, very true

Jan 13, 2006, 06:31 PM	#1
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,818 Rep Power: 0	Athlon XP Wiremod If I do the wiremod, and the CPU doesn't take it (i.e. I connect the two pins to unlock the multiplier) will it in any way negatively affect my mobo or CPU or system if I just try it out then take it off if it doesn't work?

Jan 23, 2006, 04:26 PM	#3
The_Neon_Cowboy DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,135 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	FYI: the wire trick it only unlocks the "lower" multipliers, like the really low ones ex. 6X though there is a guide some where about what pins to short to try to obcheve a certain multipulyer ... though with a super locked cpu your probubly still just buy an AMD 64 already! __________________

Feb 3, 2006, 06:07 PM	#6
xTmDarren DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kannapolis, NC Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	HA! I've done this mod before- But never got it to work when I had the 3000+ Barton. But from what I can remember only the Athlon XP 3000+ Barton (400MHz) CPUs manufactured in a certain time frame can be modded, and even then only a few motherboard actually would read it right. I wish I could remember which motherboard I had I Believe it was tha Asus A7N motherboard. So it could of been my motherboard. Anyways when I did this mod all my CPU would do was read like it did before I did the mod. I tried redoing the wiremod about 5 or 6 times and nothing. Everything just read what it was at default. I ended up leaving the wire on and just selling the PC about 6 months later, and still to this day the CPU runs great and hasnt had any problem from what the guy that baught it from tells me. Sorry I couldnt be the greatest help. But like I said. Nothing I did seemed to mess up the CPU at all. __________________ AMD Athlon 64 3700+ ATI X800XT PE 1gb DDR400 Kingston ValueRam Asus K8N Motherboard (why do people get the deluxe anyways) 2 80GB Western Digital HDs DVD burner ThermalTake Xaser Case W/ 420W PSU Sony Floppy Drive Gaming mouse Mousepad HP off the chains! Keyboard 17' Monitor-

Mar 3, 2006, 08:19 PM	#12
fobis DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 741 Rep Power: 36	Well, worst comes to worst, your computer won't boot if the pin mod is unstable at the settings you set. It shouldn't fry anything unless you really screwed something up. So, I would say go for it. However, you may be able to buy an Athlon XP-M and make up the cost by selling your current CPU. I bought my CPU that I have right now for $60 and I sold my old Athlon XP 2500+ (with an unlocked multiplier) for $60. My current CPU is a far better overclocker than my old one. __________________ MacBook Pro Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.4 Intel Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz 2GB DDR2-677 ATi Mobility Radeon X1600 256MB 120GB 7200RPM SATA HDD

Mar 3, 2006, 09:24 PM	#14
nitrousoxide52 Driverheaven.com err .net Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,722 Rep Power: 0	I was going to do the mod with my 3000+ (it was the 400 FSB one btw) but I decided not to, I wouldn't be seeing too much of a benefit over the overclock I could already pull with it. __________________ AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+ XFX Geforce 7800GT ABIT AN8-SLI BFG Tech 650w

Jan 23, 2006, 03:51 PM	#2
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,818 Rep Power: 0	Anyone....

Jan 23, 2006, 04:39 PM	#4
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,672 Rep Power: 0	i thimk, if i recall, to et it completely unlocked, you hafta mod the bridges?

Mar 3, 2006, 09:46 AM	#11
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,818 Rep Power: 0	Incidentaly enough thats the sight I was using to do it. I guess I'll do it when I work up the balls for it.... or have another machine to fall back on

Mar 3, 2006, 08:47 PM	#13
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,818 Rep Power: 0	Yeah. I'll go for it one day

Mar 4, 2006, 12:56 AM	#15
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,818 Rep Power: 0	Yeah but 400FSB ones are different multiplier so its a different situation. They use a 10.5 multiple, I'm stuck on a 13

Mar 4, 2006, 01:08 AM	#16
fobis DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 741 Rep Power: 36	And you also have a lower bus speed, so overclocking from 333FSB to 400FSB will create a world of difference for you. Actually, I don't know why you have your RAM running at 400FSB when your CPU is at 333FSB. I've heard that Athlon XP's work best in synchronous mode, not asynchronous like you have it now. __________________ MacBook Pro Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.4 Intel Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz 2GB DDR2-677 ATi Mobility Radeon X1600 256MB 120GB 7200RPM SATA HDD

Mar 4, 2006, 12:22 PM	#18
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,818 Rep Power: 0	Well I've been flipping between it. Its only really true on nForce2 based boards. KT600's don't seem to care much either way so I Was just running it like that because then when I edge up the FSB my memory stays at FSB+33 so I see how far the RAM will go. Even when I 1:1 it inbetween where my PCI divider is either too low for the speed im running or too high unless I go up 10 more MHz, I don't have the guts to push the chip farther than I know is safe. The eventual plan is to get the FSB and RAM 1:1 at 216MHz then just push the chip as high as it'll go. With a 13 multiplier, I can get up to 2750 something which is just beyond the limit of most AXP's

Mar 4, 2006, 04:25 PM	#19
fobis DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 741 Rep Power: 36	Umm, overclocking on a KT600 board is a baaaaad idea. If you clock to a higher FSB than to what you set your jumper to, then the PCI bus will start overclocking with it since there is no PCI lock. That could lead to some pretty serious problems, it did for me when I tried on a KT600 board. My SATA controller went berserk and the partition on my HDD was damaged. If you really want to overclock like you're talking about, then get an nForce2 board. DFI's and Epox's overclocked well in the Socket A days, IIRC. The Asus A7N8X is also a very nice board to look into. EDITED for spelling and grammarical issues. __________________ MacBook Pro Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.4 Intel Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz 2GB DDR2-677 ATi Mobility Radeon X1600 256MB 120GB 7200RPM SATA HDD

Mar 4, 2006, 06:36 PM	#20
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,818 Rep Power: 0	I know that. I've pushed my PCI bus as far as 37MHz without issue. So it isn't a bad idea, it just gives me more PCI bandwidth The only reason your SATA would go nuts is if you had a bad mobo design. My PATA and SATA controllers are tied directly onto the southbridge and don't go over the PCI bus because of the way the motherboard is designed.

Mar 4, 2006, 06:51 PM	#21
fobis DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 741 Rep Power: 36	Uhh, everything except AGP goes over the PCI bus to talk to the CPU. You can even look through SiS Sandra. If you look at the devices hooked up to the PCI bus, you'll see your SATA and PATA controllers... __________________ MacBook Pro Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.4 Intel Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz 2GB DDR2-677 ATi Mobility Radeon X1600 256MB 120GB 7200RPM SATA HDD

Mar 4, 2006, 06:53 PM	#22
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,818 Rep Power: 0	So says they. Sandra also says I have 2 ISA slots which I know I don't. Either way it works fine at PCI 37, regardless of whatever else is on the PCI bus

Mar 4, 2006, 06:54 PM	#23
fobis DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 741 Rep Power: 36	Ooooo, you're only running the PCI bus at 37MHz? Oh, ok. That's why. That tiny overclock won't do any harm. But when I was doing that kind of stuff, I had the PCI bus clocked to around 47MHz. That's when my troubles started EDIT Or did I go higher than that? lol, it's been so long since I used that board... I'm so glad I don't have to anymore... It was a POS. I had the ECS KT600a or something like that. __________________ MacBook Pro Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.4 Intel Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz 2GB DDR2-677 ATi Mobility Radeon X1600 256MB 120GB 7200RPM SATA HDD

Mar 4, 2006, 07:38 PM	#24
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,818 Rep Power: 0	The KV7 is a beast...the KV7-V's kinda suck but the original KV7's are awesome. Vcore I have the option of 1.1 all the way to 2.375.. and everything inbetween. Oh yeah

Mar 5, 2006, 02:42 PM	#25
fobis DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 741 Rep Power: 36	Wow, that's a lot of voltage settings. I really don't like VIA anymore ever since my horrible experience with their Socket A chipsets (KM400, KT400, KT600, etc). Even in this day in age, their chipsets are for the super-low budget people most of the time and they just don't perform well. Maybe I'm wrong, but almost nobody in their right minds would buy VIA based boards anymore, especially for AMD's and such. __________________ MacBook Pro Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.4 Intel Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz 2GB DDR2-677 ATi Mobility Radeon X1600 256MB 120GB 7200RPM SATA HDD

Mar 5, 2006, 02:51 PM	#26
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,818 Rep Power: 0	Well no one does because nForce 4's and ATI's are the only ones offering worthwhile dual graphics solution. I think you just got burned by a cheap mobo. I happen to like my mobo and its more than competitive enough against other AthlonXP boards I find.

Mar 5, 2006, 11:33 PM	#27
fobis DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 741 Rep Power: 36	Yeah, ECS (Elite Computer Group or whatever it is) is crap. Oh, my gosh, I have never seen such crap in my life. I've never really heard good things about them, though. I wouldn't have had that board, but I suppose that's what you get when you don't buy your own components... (I didn't, back then) __________________ MacBook Pro Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.4 Intel Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz 2GB DDR2-677 ATi Mobility Radeon X1600 256MB 120GB 7200RPM SATA HDD

Mar 6, 2006, 10:15 AM	#28
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,818 Rep Power: 0	Well I was a whore with mobo brands before I went ABit, I haven't looked back since

Mar 6, 2006, 03:13 PM	#30
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,818 Rep Power: 0	Ah, very true