OC'ing problems with my new setup.

drakesteakn · Apr 12, 2005, 07:08 PM

it seems no matter what i want to do i go nowhere. video card(BBA X800XL) wont OC cuz no programs can tell what it is. Everytime i try and oc the processor it locks up. i tried from the bios and using the NF4 version of clockgen. neither will work for me. any suggestions? oh, i am also using watercooling and temps look great. 22C idle and 26C load.

specs are as follows:

3500+ 90nm
DFI NF4 SLI-DR
1gb Samsung DDR 400(i have had these 2 sticks @230FSB before with 2.5-3-3-8 timmings)
1 200GB Maxtor DM 9 S-ATA
X800XL from ATI
Win XP Pro
Enermax 600W eg701ax-ve (supports SLI if needed)

not sure whats wrong, Help!!!! Please

daedal · Apr 13, 2005, 05:32 AM

What do you mean when you say "no programs can tell what it is" ?
Do you mean that the software doesn't recognize your card, which I'm guessing it because it is fairly new to the market? Have you tried ATI Tool?

As far as the Processor OCing is concerned, what multiplier/ratio have you tried? Does it boot? When you do get a change, are you able to go into the BiOS and monitor heat readings?

drakesteakn · Apr 13, 2005, 06:20 AM

on the video card, yeah, ati tool dont work, it doesnt recognize it. neither do anyother ones i tried.

well i cant say much about multiplier changing. its locked. all i can do is up the fsb. this processor is stock @ 11x200. i tried moving the FSB up and moved the V up and nothing happens but a crash going nito windows. In BIOS right now it says the processor was at 14C when i booted up this morning.

***Zardon*** · Apr 13, 2005, 10:14 AM

I know you have a beefy PSU but what are the rail readings?
Have you tried a fresh OS?
is it rebooting randomly?
What voltage to the CPU?
Tried any new bioses for the mobo?

pr0digal jenius · Apr 13, 2005, 10:49 AM

how high exactly can you push it before it craps out?

can you raise it any at all on stock volts without it dying?

drakesteakn · Apr 13, 2005, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zardon

I know you have a beefy PSU but what are the rail readings?
Have you tried a fresh OS?
is it rebooting randomly?
What voltage to the CPU?
Tried any new bioses for the mobo?

i get 12.03V on 12V rail
3.32V on the 3.3V
5.18V on the 5V rail
my core V is at 1.4V

this is a fresh install of XP Pro. everything seems to run perfectly. just no OC. the BIOS i didn't check into. let me get back to you on that one Z.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

how high exactly can you push it before it craps out?

can you raise it any at all on stock volts without it dying?

like 2.28Ghz which is like nothing of a OC.

itchy5 · Apr 13, 2005, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drakesteakn

i get 12.03V on 12V rail
3.32V on the 3.3V
5.18V on the 5V rail
my core V is at 1.4V

this is a fresh install of XP Pro. everything seems to run perfectly. just no OC. the BIOS i didn't check into. let me get back to you on that one Z.

like 2.28Ghz which is like nothing of a OC.

wow umm

try a different bios, see if that helps.

drakesteakn · Apr 13, 2005, 05:15 PM

here are some screen shots.this is the max i can OC this thing below with a cpu-z screenie. hope this helps

Anupama · Apr 14, 2005, 08:27 PM

Hey, ati tool works on my 800xl. On radlinker its a mess though. Heard about that problem but it works with me. Read a test in a Danish computer site where they had your problem. The tester found a software that found the card and overclocked it. I cant remember the name of that oc software and cant find that site again, sry. But its pretty comon software and Ive had it installed twice. (remember the layout,, lots of yellow colours, and some striped colours in the logo who looks something like the german flag )

I didnt manage to get a very high speed, but it works. Gave me 600+ in 3dmark 2005.

drakesteakn · Apr 14, 2005, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anupama

Hey, ati tool works on my 800xl. On radlinker its a mess though. Heard about that problem but it works with me. Read a test in a Danish computer site where they had your problem. The tester found a software that found the card and overclocked it. I cant remember the name of that oc software and cant find that site again, sry. But its pretty comon software and Ive had it installed twice. (remember the layout,, lots of yellow colours, and some striped colours in the logo who looks something like the german flag )

I didnt manage to get a very high speed, but it works. Gave me 600+ in 3dmark 2005.

i finally got it to work. i had some terrible problems with ati tool. i finally got it to work later tonight. 15,000 in 3dmark03 and 25,000 in 3dmark2001SE. havnt gotten 05 to install yet. not sure i want to until i get thsi cpu OC thing figured out.

i'm thinking its a setting on something in the BIOS i havent figured out. still looking.

thanx for the post

drakesteakn · Apr 14, 2005, 09:18 PM

i'm running the latest BIOS and still cant figure it out. i get past the windows boot screen then i get the blue screen and a memory bump. could this mobo not like my RAM for some reason? its not liking something, any suggestions guys.

farkas · Apr 14, 2005, 09:39 PM

You might of done that before, but it's just s suggestion.

1. Have you checked that the memory that you are using figures at least on some compability list from the mainboard manufacturer.

2. Have you tested your RAM on your system and on another system, to see if RAM or memory circuitry on the board being dubious, or generating memtest errors when another board does not ? Maybe just a mem timing. Like manual FSB but with auto SPD etc...

Ive had issues in the past were I though board was problem, only to find out that my HDD was operating with a faulty X/on x/off issue or somthing tothat effect, basically a bad or overheated chip and my board had mem timming settings set to auto in the BIOS on an OC's CPU.

Try experimenting with cool & quiet on or off.

Let us know, hope it works out fine soon !

itchy5 · Apr 14, 2005, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by farkas

You might of done that before, but it's just s suggestion.

1. Have you checked that the memory that you are using figures at least on some compability list from the mainboard manufacturer.

2. Have you tested your RAM on your system and on another system, to see if RAM or memory circuitry on the board being dubious, or generating memtest errors when another board does not ? Maybe just a mem timing. Like manual FSB but with auto SPD etc...

Ive had issues in the past were I though board was problem, only to find out that my HDD was operating with a faulty X/on x/off issue or somthing tothat effect, basically a bad or overheated chip and my board had mem timming settings set to auto in the BIOS on an OC's CPU.

Try experimenting with cool & quiet on or off.

Let us know, hope it works out fine soon !

throw a 4:3 ratio on that ram then see if its the CPU

drakesteakn · Apr 15, 2005, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by farkas

You might of done that before, but it's just s suggestion.

1. Have you checked that the memory that you are using figures at least on some compability list from the mainboard manufacturer.

2. Have you tested your RAM on your system and on another system, to see if RAM or memory circuitry on the board being dubious, or generating memtest errors when another board does not ? Maybe just a mem timing. Like manual FSB but with auto SPD etc...

Ive had issues in the past were I though board was problem, only to find out that my HDD was operating with a faulty X/on x/off issue or somthing tothat effect, basically a bad or overheated chip and my board had mem timming settings set to auto in the BIOS on an OC's CPU.

Try experimenting with cool & quiet on or off.

Let us know, hope it works out fine soon !

well i tried evverything u mentioned. still no workie. can't get past 207FSB for anything. i tried upping the timmings on the RAM to 3-4-4-8 and even set the cpu/fsb to 4/3 and still nothing. i turned cool and quiet on and off. i couldnt find a memory compatability sheet on dfi's website. this samsung RAM was tested in memtest just fine. its been used before in another system and could get to 230FSB at default timmings. maybe this board dont like the memory for some reason.