|
| Notices |
Welcome to the DriverHeaven.net forums. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us. |
 |
Sep 26, 2004, 04:40 PM
|
#1
|
|
NGO Crew
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 412
|
the offical barton vcore thread
many people claims high vcore rate such as 1.9x can damage the cpu fast.. and its too risky. others think different.. so i think we should clear this up.
please post your opinion in the subject.
p.s.
i have barton 2800 and only 1.95 pass prime test under 12.5x200mhz
while others use 1.95v under 219mhzx12.5 isnt it weird ?
Last edited by REGENERAT1ON; Sep 26, 2004 at 04:59 PM.
|
|
|
Sep 26, 2004, 04:56 PM
|
#2
|
|
F.U.B.A.R.
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Southern California
Posts: 19,037
|
i wouldn't go past 1.9v on a thouroughbred B or a barton unless it's watercooled.
|
|
|
Sep 26, 2004, 05:00 PM
|
#3
|
|
NGO Crew
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 412
|
only because the temperatures ? if temps fine under load with 1.9v with air cooling?
Last edited by REGENERAT1ON; Sep 26, 2004 at 05:17 PM.
|
|
|
Sep 26, 2004, 08:09 PM
|
#4
|
|
DriverHeaven Extreme Member
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: U.S.A.
Posts: 16,122
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by REGENERAT1ON
many people claims high vcore rate such as 1.9x can damage the cpu fast.. and its too risky. others think different.. so i think we should clear this up.
please post your opinion in the subject.
p.s.
i have barton 2800 and only 1.95 pass prime test under 12.5x200mhz
while others use 1.95v under 219mhzx12.5 isnt it weird ?
|
more voltage does damage the CPU faster, keep in mind a cpu is spec'ed for 10 years of use  , it shortens it's life due to the basic theory of electrical degradation. The more power the more heat (heat adds a smal amount of resistance) the more voltage in a circut the faster it degrades. But were talking years! not days
Many people have ran the CPU's @ over 2 volts for verry long times!
It could be the paticular CPU's limit, it could be your temps, then again it could be your south/north brige holding you back, you can volt mod (pencil trick, that will up both) or /also use a hacked bios such as the ubber bios, that allows you to chose the north bridge voltage
Last edited by The_Neon_Cowboy; Sep 26, 2004 at 08:15 PM.
|
|
|
Sep 26, 2004, 09:33 PM
|
#5
|
|
F.U.B.A.R.
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Southern California
Posts: 19,037
|
that's exactly what i was going to say neon....'cept for the hacked bios part  .
|
|
|
Sep 27, 2004, 01:33 AM
|
#6
|
|
Xtreme
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can
Posts: 3,473
|
i've heard that anything over 1.775 was kind a pushing it. i guess i can OC even higher 
|
|
|
Sep 27, 2004, 01:53 AM
|
#7
|
|
DriverHeaven Extreme Member
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: U.S.A.
Posts: 16,122
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Tulcakelume
i've heard that anything over 1.775 was kind a pushing it. i guess i can OC even higher 
|
as always just be carefull  better safe then
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! OH NOES!!! 
|
|
|
Sep 27, 2004, 02:57 AM
|
#8
|
|
F.U.B.A.R.
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Southern California
Posts: 19,037
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Tulcakelume
i've heard that anything over 1.775 was kind a pushing it. i guess i can OC even higher 
|
that is true only for p4 northwood cores. actually, w/the northwood chips, you shouldn't go above 1.7v. AMD chips, i wouldn't go over 1.9v unless i was doing some extreme OCing.
|
|
|
Sep 27, 2004, 06:38 AM
|
#9
|
|
NGO Crew
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 412
|
well tried everything.. nothing helps.. my cpu is stable only under 1.95v
|
|
|
Sep 27, 2004, 06:57 AM
|
#10
|
|
DriverHeaven Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Indonesia
Posts: 34
|
Well there are some standard voltages for AMD, you can tell from its label on processor. Mine is Barton 2500+ @3200+ 200x11 1.7V and I think 1.85 is the top limit for me. I don't want to go any further. If I may suggest, you better find a better proc (you can tell from its label once again before you but it), running at that voltage really makes your proc dying.
|
|
|
Oct 5, 2004, 03:19 AM
|
#11
|
|
Xtreme
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can
Posts: 3,473
|
1.85 is my motherboards max  being stable so far @ 199fsb on a barton 2600. so i guess thats as high as i'll be going.
|
|
|
Oct 5, 2004, 08:33 AM
|
#12
|
|
DriverHeaven Senior Member
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 469
|
whoaw.... i never needed that much voltage with my xp2500...
at 1.65 it did 200fsb stable.. only tested 1.7 but it didn't make a difference.
|
|
|
Oct 5, 2004, 11:48 AM
|
#13
|
|
第3 子供
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Nerv HQ
Posts: 1,322
|
I have my Barton from 2500+ to 2.2 GHz 3200+ and left the voltage at stock which is about 1.65v. No stability issues and it runs like a champ.
|
|
|
Oct 6, 2004, 08:08 AM
|
#14
|
|
DriverHeaven Addict
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Back Woods of MO
Posts: 279
|
I'm running 2 2500 Bartons, one locked and one unlocked. The locked is running at 220x11 @ 1.85v water cooled for about a year now and the other runs at a max of 12x210 or 215x11 @ 1.80v also water cooled. I think my ram is holding both of them back. Temps on both stay around 40c under max load.
|
|
|
Oct 12, 2004, 07:04 AM
|
#15
|
|
DriverHeaven Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Buenos Aires - Argentina
Posts: 44
|
Man, that cannot be that way! You shouldn't use 1.95 VCore unless you're using WC...or just for a bench. Try to lower...1.8V max for aircooling.
|
|
|
Oct 24, 2004, 07:18 AM
|
#16
|
|
DriverHeaven Lover
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Stoke-on-Trent, UK
Posts: 122
|
Had to put 1.85 volts through my Barton 2500 rto get it stable @ 3200 speeds. All is well now, temps are also fine. Running at 33c idle and 39 full load.
Last edited by Killer_uk; Oct 24, 2004 at 08:28 AM.
|
|
|
Oct 24, 2004, 08:37 PM
|
#17
|
|
Xtreme
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can
Posts: 3,473
|
i've being running @ 1.85V for about a month and a half  so far so good. 2600+ @ 200FSB, 2305Mhz.
|
|
|
Oct 24, 2004, 09:01 PM
|
#18
|
|
boo!!!!
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Ft. Meyers, FL
Posts: 2,025
|
i had my 3000+ @ 230fsb at 2.6ghz 1.75 vcore. it was a beauty with a thermalright slk900-a
|
|
|
Oct 25, 2004, 01:58 AM
|
#19
|
|
F.U.B.A.R.
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Southern California
Posts: 19,037
|
thermalright makes good stuff  . My friend bought me the thermalright northbridge cooler for my b-day. All copper, that thing is a beauty. I just want to get the sp-94 and a 92MM tornado to go w/it. Then i'll have a better OCing system  .
|
|
|
Oct 25, 2004, 11:15 PM
|
#20
|
|
I Have lovely Breasts
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: In the closet...
Posts: 5,394
|
how do you get 1.95v? mine only goes to 1.875 :'(
|
|
|
Oct 26, 2004, 12:31 AM
|
#21
|
|
Delete Me
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 14,676
|
i wish i could change my voltage at all 
|
|
|
Oct 26, 2004, 03:47 AM
|
#22
|
|
F.U.B.A.R.
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Southern California
Posts: 19,037
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Geminiwave
how do you get 1.95v? mine only goes to 1.875 :'(
|
update your BIOS if you don't already have the newest one. Usually BIOS updates will give you new feature, or updated stuff, like increased voltages, and/or higher FSB settings. If you already have the newest BIOS version of your board, then all you can do is 1.875v.
My old ePox board did upto 2.2v. I never took my old xp2400/xp2500 chips that high though. Never went past 1.9v on that board.
|
|
|
Oct 26, 2004, 07:50 AM
|
#23
|
|
Genuine Crazy Canuck
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Hamilton, ON Canada
Posts: 210
|
I have my Barton 2500 at 3200 speeds (11x200) and was running it a default voltage for almost a year, then I started getting random crashes about 6 months ago. Now it seems that every 2-3 months I have to bump the voltage 0.25 to keep it stable at 3200 speeds. I'm up to 1.775 now. You think it's on it's last leg?
I'm just using a Volcano 9 HSF but my temps are 32-33 idle, 48-50 under a 3 hour gaming load.
Even if it blew up next week, I wouldn't complain. I've been running it at 3200 since I got it over a year and a half or so. I would just get another, maybe a mobile 2500 or 2600.
|
|
|
Oct 26, 2004, 01:19 PM
|
#24
|
|
F.U.B.A.R.
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Southern California
Posts: 19,037
|
it shouldn't be dying like that if it's still at stock voltages. But if and/or when it does go out, i'd say get an Athlon 64. The only thing you'd be getting new in an Athlon 64 system would just be a board and CPU if you really think about it. That is unless you want to go all out and get new everything.
|
|
|
Oct 26, 2004, 04:22 PM
|
#25
|
|
I Have lovely Breasts
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: In the closet...
Posts: 5,394
|
I have an Asus A7N8X2.0 and its Bios version 1007. They have 1010 now but there is no 1008 or 1009 and the 1010 is just added support for Sempron procs.
|
|
|
|
|