amd 2800+ 333fsb 512ddr 3200

ptsigas

hey all - basically i want to OC my cpu a bit- to save a bit before any possible chip upgrades, anyways.. lowering the multiplier and raising the fsb is the way to go right?

well i have an Amd athlon + ABIT NF-7 MOBO+2800 333mhzFsb+ 512DDR 3200 and 420W PSU

bascially i am a noob when it comes to this, my buddy has done it, ill ask him, but DH seems to have alot more knowlegde on all aspects of the Computer..pls any help- basically i am asking for a guide, any info- i know FSB has to dowith this- and one other question- is Overclocking a 2800 (running at 2.08ghz) worth the risks time et al?

GAME ON! - ohh yeah checking out painkiller, heh-


"not even death will part me from my virtual life..only a power failure.."

dj_stick

ok if the AMD is unlocked, set the multiplier to 11, then increase the fsb to 200, instant a-xp 3200

Judas

what kinda of Cooler or heatsink are you using.... and do you have Temperature Alarms and auto shutdowns enabled and at what temperature... as these are real handy if the cpu heatsink ends up not being enough..... If you want to be safe.... you can just up the multiplier .5 or a full 1x and you'll see a nice speed increase.... if that's all you wanna do though.... But the 2800+ should have no problems running 3200+ 200fsbx11 ...however.. if it won't get into windows.... or it's a little unstable.. up the voltage just one notch....

ptsigas

basically it is an air cooler, with the heat sink - it came with the chip, when i bought it.

i do have the alarms and temps set up so if somethin goes wrong, it wont allow me to go into windows and or shutdown.

now IF it is locked, how do you unlock it?

also is it worth OC ? will it make a difference or?

basically as of now im going to play it safe and up the fsb to 1x - nothing crazy.

thanks guys ! game on!

Judas

the oc difference with the bartons are very nice... moving my barton 2500+ to 3000+ gave me a nice improvement with zero temp difference.... still running the default FSB.. just change the multiplier from 12 to 13

FluffyChicken

I would put the FSB to 200MHz (DDR400) without altering anything else.
Just see if it works

If it get's to hot and or cannot cope you'll crash or lock up. Either way just go into the BIOS and go back.
It a simple and easy.

As you have a heatsink you'll not fry the CPU (or a very low chance of it, maintly due to the fact i'll lock up or crash which redues the load on the CPU and saves it (As it's still being cooled).
First get a temp monitor program MOtherboard monito and WebTemp (ignore the name, it just keeps graphs of your temps and voltages etc) That way when you apply a load you'll see it rise, as long at it stay belowe ~55C your fine.

Just give it a go!

FluffyChicken

by the way, tha OLY thing your overclocking when you alter the FSB to 200MHz is the CPU, nothing else in you system is overclcoked.

ptsigas

alright im going to give it a go, but only up the fsb- not going to go nuts and

ptsigas

alright cool, i Oc 'd the cpu from a 2.08ghz to 2.39ghz

now my M (multiplier) by default was at 12.5 so i kept it on my first OC try and raised the FSB to 200MHZ- now things were cool, but it wouldnt load windows- then i downed the FSB to 190 i believe- it went to windows, but i couldnt use keyboard or mouse - so i take it i need to up the notch with my CPU voltage

BUT Judas, you said to raise it one if windows is a lil looney, but is it up 1.0V or .5V? so right now my voltage is by default set to 1.65V - should i up the sucker to 2.65V or 1.75v? thats my big big questions cause im a lil tense when it comes to this stuff- pls help will as always be highly appreciated! cause when i set'd to 12.5X200 i get a nice cpu speed of 2.5GHZ (thats cooL!) - but no windows i just wanna know before actually setting it.

although 2.39 is neat, 2.5 is neater!

- now my ram is 3200 - the 'class' 512ddr - now is that cool for all of this OC'ing? should i worry about it?

OH and is it worth oc'ing a VID CARD? ie ati radeon 9800 PRO 128MB? thanks!
-=GAME ON=-

Judas

up it to 1.70v try.. then try 1.75v... and try.... i would recoommend with a stock cooler that you don't go any higher as the voltage increase tends to really tax the heatsink.... it starts spitting out a fair bit of heat..... try slacking off your DDR ram timings a bit though... it could be cause it as well...

ptsigas

alright so i should also lower the RAM voltage a bit too? and Defintely grab a nice cooler- and heat sink, cause yep i got the stock one...now i have the multy set to 13x and the fsb at 180 i believe- voltage is at 1.80-82V but the CPU core temp is at 44.50c is that safe? the colour indicator is at green but-

is ram voltage adjusting dangerour or?

this overclocking business seems tensful!! so a new cooler should help out?

thanks again!

dj_stick

don't adjust the ram VOLTAGE, but the TIMINGS ie Cas to RAs latency n all that

ptsigas

luckily i didnt move the ram voltage im still going to mess with the V for cpu core, just a wee bit, but nothing high until i snag a new therma volcanao whateevr heat sink thing-

RAS?! whats that - anyhoot going back to some OC'ing, i gots it at 2.28 right now, but i really want that 2.5ghz

ptsigas

wicked! i oc'd the cpu to 2.50ghz!! from 2.08 - now i know this is old school noob stuff for you guys lol but for me, first time overclocking its a big deal!, but ONE question pls-

lets say i play FARCRY right now- will it overheat or somethin? the temp is at (looking at my cpu dr thing) 41.50C - its bright green indicated,, so if i play a game? will this overheat or something does the heat rise? --i n eed to know before playing anyhthing- whatever happens im replacing the stock heatsink+fan..

GAME ON! thanks for the help- all- it gave me tonns of knowlegde!

Sourcer_2002

I think you should be fine runing games man...i would recommend a different heatsink or course if you plan to OC more and continue on...as far as games go you should be fine...at load your temps may rasie up about 5-15C i would exit the games and let it start to cool once it hits around 55-60C though.

dj_stick

my barton is hovering around 64 at idle… not good

ptsigas

a new cooler/heat sink is then a definite must, i mean right now its a nice 31c at 2.5ghz, but im just scared of it getting way too high- im going to run the painkiller demo, just to see whats going on - but either way im snagging a new cooling unit for the chip, i cannot risk anything!

take it ez Gamerz!

mOpToP

Unless you have a really cold house and really good case ventalation, 31c seems really low since you are using the stock HSF @ that speed, you sure your not looking at the motherboard temp?

My XP-M 2500+ at 2.5ghz sits at about 40c idle with an slk900a and a 50cfm 92mm fan with good case airflow and an ambient temp of about 70 degrees. my motherboard temp hovers between 27-31c all the time.

Judas

ptsigas.. what are you using to view the temps?

ptsigas

i use Winbond Hardware- it came with my MOBO, andi have read correctly, Cpu temp was the previous mentioned...BUT i ran into a slight prob, when i tried to run painkiller, it wouldnt at 2.5ghz so i downed it to 2.2ghz, it ran but- it got to 51C afterwords...so i still need a nice cooler- heh its pretty cold down here - no heat whatsoever not even in the summer, we got no airflow down here only windows...

but is there a better program? this one is for the Nf7 (my mobo)

system1 temp right now 28 and 38 running at my original 2.08ghz - i just placed it back to normal until i get cooler.

FluffyChicken

Motherboard Monitor and WebTemp

Motherboared monitor being the free temperature monitor, WebTemp being a program that'll plot constant graphs and keep a recored of it (and free as well)
Web Temp is useful to see the temp rising.
If you run a Distributed Project (aka DC projrct, Seti@home, Find-a-Drug, D2ol, folding@home...) run that.
Find-a-Drug being one of the more CPU taking and temperature rising. Or a CPUBurn or Pi calculation program. This will heat the PCU up, tell you if your getting memory errors (they crash or exit)
and you can see your temperatures rising.

Temperature is all relative (not very often actual temp, but it not far out)
If it works with Seti/FAD or a Pi calculation and sits at 55C then there is nothing wrong. Many would say that is too high, but it's fine and the chips are desinged for higher.
I run a Thermaltake Silentboost and under load have about 50/52C been running constantly like that for a long time

I prefer quiet to cool (or silly overclocks)

Judas

usually the best way to figure out how well its running is going into the bios and set your ALARM temp to say 55*C..... and your shutdown at 60*C.... run a few dozen progams at once... or a good game.... if it alarms... it's on or past 55*C