Roadee's Fastest Rig Competition Discussion Thread

Logla · Apr 11, 2004, 10:42 AM

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Originally posted by Cartman
Logla,

Have you been running all your benchies in 1:1.. ?

Yep, everything in 1:1

I think it was the RAM voltages that were holding me back and the fact that the other half had the central heating on (my pc is located directly above our boiler) Today the weather has been kinder so I've had the heating off and the window open. Temps are now lower and I've been able to bench it a little more stable.

Were you going to suggest lowering the ratio by any chance?

**Asmoday** · Apr 11, 2004, 03:44 PM

Nope..i was just curious..

well it seems that you have beat my score now, good work Logla!!!

I would challenge you if i weren't broke atm, don't wanna risk frying anything..

edit : i see now that you beat me by 13 points...LOL that was close...hehe

free_refil · Apr 11, 2004, 03:59 PM

I give up. I broke 21k in 2001SE, but no where's near DjTonic's score, so, I guess i'm out.. It was nice having that avatar for a while!

Logla · Apr 11, 2004, 05:16 PM

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Originally posted by Cartman
Nope..i was just curious.. well it seems that you have beat my score now, good work Logla!!!
I would challenge you if i weren't broke atm, don't wanna risk frying anything..

edit : i see now that you beat me by 13 points...LOL that was close...hehe

broke - I know the feeling - this little fastest rig compo has totally skinted me. "Allas poor walet, I knew him well"

I think there is still at least a couple more MHz I can sqeeze out of this baby yet but I was a real pain to get to where I am now. I had to push the ram to 3.2v which although OCZ reckon is ok, its still outside their warranty specs. This ram cost me £250 which is really expensive and I wanted the best there is so there is no way I'll be going over that.

If you cant get any further on your setup mate, I salute you. You really gave me some hard numbers to beat.

**Asmoday** · Apr 11, 2004, 05:26 PM

Well...i think i will retire from the competition for now, as i said i really can't afford breaking anything atm. I really need some better ram to compete seriously anyway, my current ram won't run stable past 235mhz fsb in 1:1....i had to run it at 5:4 to get my scores where they are now.
Once again congratulations!!! Well deserved!

Judas · Apr 12, 2004, 12:17 AM

i need some FSB loven....

Logla · Apr 12, 2004, 03:09 AM

Cartman,
out of interest, did you run 2001 with the HyperThreading switched off?

I tried but was getting lower scores. I was expecting to see and increase.

***Zardon*** · Apr 12, 2004, 03:09 AM

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Originally posted by Logla
Cartman,
out of interest, did you run 2001 with the HyperThreading switched off?

I tried but was getting lower scores. I was expecting to see and increase.

3dmark does increase with HT off, its about the only benching program that does. only minor mind you, few hundred points tops.

Logla · Apr 12, 2004, 03:13 AM

Thats wierd - was getting a consistent 50-100 point drop in the scores with it turned off.

free_refil · Apr 12, 2004, 04:10 AM

Just wondering, do you guy's think it's normal for a 2.8C on a MAX3, during 5:4 divider, to not go past 260fsb? I have an SP-94 with AS Ceramique and a 92mm Tornado on that thing, the side of my case open, and it FREEZING in my room! I've tried from 1.65 to 1.725v on the CPU and nothing seems to be stable! Any suggestions?

**Asmoday** · Apr 12, 2004, 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Logla
Cartman,
out of interest, did you run 2001 with the HyperThreading switched off?

I tried but was getting lower scores. I was expecting to see and increase.

Actually i ran my 22794 run with it on...i tried with it both on and off, the weird thing is that when just doing moderate overclocking to the cpu, i get a slight increase a couple of hundred points as Zardon said. But when pushing the overclock past 3.9ghz i experienced fps drops, just as you did. Pretty weird...

**Asmoday** · Apr 12, 2004, 04:36 AM

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Originally posted by free_refil
Just wondering, do you guy's think it's normal for a 2.8C on a MAX3, during 5:4 divider, to not go past 260fsb? I have an SP-94 with AS Ceramique and a 92mm Tornado on that thing, the side of my case open, and it FREEZING in my room! I've tried from 1.65 to 1.725v on the CPU and nothing seems to be stable! Any suggestions?

Well...as far as i know, not all chips are able too go past 260mhz fsb, espacially not the 2.8C i've heard lots of people reporting that the 2.8's aren't as good overclockers as the 3.0's...

***Zardon*** · Apr 12, 2004, 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by free_refil
Just wondering, do you guy's think it's normal for a 2.8C on a MAX3, during 5:4 divider, to not go past 260fsb? I have an SP-94 with AS Ceramique and a 92mm Tornado on that thing, the side of my case open, and it FREEZING in my room! I've tried from 1.65 to 1.725v on the CPU and nothing seems to be stable! Any suggestions?

Yes take off the northbridge HS, get rid of the crappy thermal pad and put some AS5 on it, then reattach, worked for me. It could also be the situation cartman mentioned but its worth a try.

free_refil · Apr 12, 2004, 05:03 AM

I have a Swiftech MCX-159 with AS5 under it!!!

Here's a pic of the inside of the case!

**Asmoday** · Apr 12, 2004, 05:05 AM

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Originally posted by free_refil
I have a Swiftech MCX-159 with AS5 under it!!!

It seems like it is the chip then...

***Zardon*** · Apr 12, 2004, 05:08 AM

yeah looks like it bud, time for a higher grade chip like a 3.0 or 3.2 to make up for the FSB.

free_refil · Apr 12, 2004, 05:08 AM

I put a pic of the inside of the case.... It's really really crowded in there, as it's a PC-6070 with TON'S of stuff crammed in it! But I bench with the side off, the room freezing, and I had put a 92mm Tornado on it after the pic was taken! I wish it wasn't a limitation of the chip, I've been thinking about a new one, any suggestions on what I can get that'll get me to about 3.8GHz?

**Asmoday** · Apr 12, 2004, 05:12 AM

If you're lucky a 3.0chip will do 3.8ghz....but not all of them do, to be really certain to reach 3.8 you should get a 3.2 or 3.4 nortwood, if you have the budget that is...

***Zardon*** · Apr 12, 2004, 05:13 AM

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Originally posted by free_refil
I put a pic of the inside of the case.... It's really really crowded in there, as it's a PC-6070 with TON'S of stuff crammed in it! But I bench with the side off, the room freezing, and I had put a 92mm Tornado on it after the pic was taken! I wish it wasn't a limitation of the chip, I've been thinking about a new one, any suggestions on what I can get that'll get me to about 3.8GHz?

Well its expensive but the 3.4 hits 3.8/3.9 on air with a MINOR voltage increase but your FSB wont be so hot. a 3.2 is much more cost effective and will allow you to hit higher FSBs as long as you get a good stepping. its really a luck of the draw thing. I went through several chips, a 3.0, two 3.2s and finally went to a 3.4 which will hit 4.0ghz on air cooling if you pump the volts through it. reason being the 3.4 chip is the newest stepping and has the same cache layout on the back as the EE and loves the volts, I sit at 3.9ghz at 1.7, ROCK solid 24/7. 3.4 chip is expensive though, but its the only option I recommend if you want to hit 3.8-4.0 without a problem. some 3.0s and 3.2 will hit that, but i would say less than 30%.

***Zardon*** · Apr 12, 2004, 05:20 AM

incidentally if you read the prometeia review here you will see I had that chip at 4.3ghz stable on prommie, and it booted at 4.8ghz so there is ALOT of future proofing.

Logla · Apr 12, 2004, 09:23 AM

Has to be said that my 3.0 is rock solid at 3.7 w/1.65v. yet just 1MHz above that and I get errors in Prime95 no matter what the voltage. I can get it to bench at 3.96 but that is the limit. Anything else and it reboots. If I take it up to 4.0 it doesn't boot and mashes up the CMOS.

I wonder when I get my shiny new avatar

Logla · Apr 12, 2004, 12:21 PM

Now here's a wierd thing. I've now got it running at 3.76@1.65 and it seems to be stable - no errors at all in Prime95.

I couldn't get it to this over the weekend.

Wierd.