Too hot?

Warpy · Nov 12, 2003, 04:07 PM

Hey guys...

Sometimes my temps get to 54 degrees C on the CPU and 60 Degrees C on the CPU diode. Is this too hot? CPU voltage is 1.74v

TonyMonTana · Nov 12, 2003, 04:09 PM

Is that temp at idle or fullload?

tastyweat · Nov 12, 2003, 04:41 PM

It is a bit hot - my cpu @ 1.725V 214x11 runs at 50^C load and 45^C Idle

Judas · Nov 13, 2003, 08:59 AM

....it's hard to say...... but check your mobo... and see if it could be possibly notoriase for reporting temps incorrectly.... i don't beleive my mobo's temp readings.. i'd go by a solid sensor...

The_Neon_Cowboy · Nov 13, 2003, 10:46 AM

rule of thumb for amd never over 50C . even on full load

what cooler your useing and what TMI

Warpy · Nov 13, 2003, 02:58 PM

Hi Neon,

I am using a vantec aeroflow HSV CPU cooler.

Last night I went and got a drill and cut two side pannels in the case for my two extra chasis fans. I will install em tonight - hopefully this will reduce the temps.

Kermit_the_Frog · Nov 13, 2003, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Neon_Cowboy
rule of thumb for amd never over 50C . even on full load

what cooler your useing and what TMI

I would disagree mid 50's is fine for AMD full load .......

Warpy · Nov 13, 2003, 03:18 PM

How come?

The_Neon_Cowboy · Nov 13, 2003, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kermit_the_Frog
I would disagree mid 50's is fine for AMD full load .......

well ...

I seen systems hit 52C and crash... i seen sytsems running low 50's and totally hose the L2 cache.... thats why I say never over 50.. I've seen them pop (themal death) @ 54/55C in the shop.

just for referance...
I useing an slk 800u/as3... i'm getting 28C/30C with my 2500+ and about 38C/40C when o/c 2 3200+

I like to see @ max 45C but anything under 50 is acceptable. I understand bios readeings/probe reading differ and some are innaccurate.. but I would classify any amd system 50C or hotter too hot unless its a p4

also if it hits 50C full load if the the room temps increase a bit (like in winter with the heat on or in the summer)you'll end up with issues . for me is a rule of thumb that has served my quite well....

Kermit_the_Frog · Nov 13, 2003, 04:41 PM

What does AMD say for barton 2500?

I find that people tend to get paranoid real easy for temps , it all depends on your system but most AMD's are able to handle upwards of 60C

Warpy · Nov 13, 2003, 04:55 PM

Well last night, she got to 62 degrees full load (CPU Diode) and 54 degrees CPU. Nothing has crashed yet. Buit this doesnt mean things are acceptable.

I took my CPU fan off and applied some thermal paste after cleaning the copper plate and CPU. tonight i apply two more chasis fans (vantec) and with my new case MOD things should run cooler. It is a 38 degree day today and I have no air condioning.[

Perhaps I shold set up a slush fund for Funky monkeys new air con!!! were you donate a dollar!

The_Neon_Cowboy · Nov 13, 2003, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kermit_the_Frog
What does AMD say for barton 2500?

I find that people tend to get paranoid real easy for temps , it all depends on your system but most AMD's are able to handle upwards of 60C

60C is supposed to be like the absoulte limit before themal death though...
i woun't want my hardware @ the edge of disaster

Quote:

Originally posted by Funky Monkey
Well last night, she got to 62 degrees full load (CPU Diode) and 54 degrees CPU. Nothing has crashed yet. Buit this doesnt mean things are acceptable.

I took my CPU fan off and applied some thermal paste after cleaning the copper plate and CPU. tonight i apply two more chasis fans (vantec) and with my new case MOD things should run cooler. It is a 38 degree day today and I have no air condioning.[

Perhaps I shold set up a slush fund for Funky monkeys new air con!!! were you donate a dollar!

how are you applying your thermal grease? what are you useing?

Kermit_the_Frog · Nov 13, 2003, 07:22 PM

http://users.erols.com/chare/elec.htm

well you can always look at this I am not gonna say its 100% but all the stats are right from the companies in question and why would anyone spend that much time to put all that together if it was not close to the truth

Athlon XP-2500+
(6-8-A 1.83GHz Barton) 1.65V
(?V~?V) 2.0V -- -- 41.4A 53.7W 68.3W 85° C
Athlon XP-2600+
(6-8-A 1.92GHz Barton) 1.65V
(?V~?V) 2.0V -- -- 41.4A 53.7W 68.3W 85° C
Athlon XP-2800+
(6-8-A 2.08GHz Barton) 1.65V
(?V~?V) 2.0V -- -- 41.4A 53.7W 68.3W 85° C
Athlon XP-3000+
(6-8-A 2.16GHz Barton) 1.65V
(?V~?V) 2.0V -- -- 45A 58.4W 74.3W 85° C
Athlon XP-3000+
(6-8-A 2.1GHz Barton) 1.65V
(?V~?V) 2.0V -- -- 41.4A 53.7W 68.3W 85° C
Athlon XP-3200+
(6-8-A 2.2GHz Barton) 1.65V
(?V~?V) 2.0V -- -- 46.5A 60.4W 76.8W 85° C

The_Neon_Cowboy · Nov 13, 2003, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kermit_the_Frog
http://users.erols.com/chare/elec.htm

well you can always look at this I am not gonna say its 100% but all the stats are right from the companies in question and why would anyone spend that much time to put all that together if it was not close to the truth

Athlon XP-2500+
(6-8-A 1.83GHz Barton) 1.65V
(?V~?V) 2.0V -- -- 41.4A 53.7W 68.3W 85° C
Athlon XP-2600+
(6-8-A 1.92GHz Barton) 1.65V
(?V~?V) 2.0V -- -- 41.4A 53.7W 68.3W 85° C
Athlon XP-2800+
(6-8-A 2.08GHz Barton) 1.65V
(?V~?V) 2.0V -- -- 41.4A 53.7W 68.3W 85° C
Athlon XP-3000+
(6-8-A 2.16GHz Barton) 1.65V
(?V~?V) 2.0V -- -- 45A 58.4W 74.3W 85° C
Athlon XP-3000+
(6-8-A 2.1GHz Barton) 1.65V
(?V~?V) 2.0V -- -- 41.4A 53.7W 68.3W 85° C
Athlon XP-3200+
(6-8-A 2.2GHz Barton) 1.65V
(?V~?V) 2.0V -- -- 46.5A 60.4W 76.8W 85° C

yea but many probes are inaccurate.... i've never seen amd make it to 60C ... and live... out of the hunderds upon hundreds of systems i've seen ... i'm only talking from personal experiance here....

by that a 2500+ and a 2800+ put out the exact same amout of heat thats hard 2 buy.... i've herd many people question these figures but i tend to try to shy from that.

just like if you ask an amd technican face 2 face as i have and not getting an answer for the proper voltage for a paticular cpu? there not a right answer becouse it varrys.... its set @ the factory but it not all the same ...and some time higer cpus are underclocked and sold as he lesser due 2 supply.... so theres no exact answer

for exaple i've seen like 1 ghz cpu's from factory locked @ like 1.58V, 1.62v,1.65,1.68,1.72
i dont rember exactly but were taking lazer locked reading the cut bridges... it not often but i have seen some wierd ones

tek · Nov 13, 2003, 09:13 PM

I wouldn't let my CPU go past 55C, thats a little too hot man. But maybe not for the CPU?

jaysavesthedayy · Nov 13, 2003, 09:51 PM

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i seen sytsems running low 50's and totally hose the L2 cache.... thats why I say never over 50

hey neon cowboy, what did you mean by hose the L2 cache? Did you mean that it could damage the L2 cache?

Judas · Nov 14, 2003, 09:52 AM

......my 1900+ would hit 60*C at full load for a constant 168 hours straight...and works fine yet...

Kermit_the_Frog · Nov 14, 2003, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Judas
......my 1900+ would hit 60*C at full load for a constant 168 hours straight...and works fine yet...

Exactly another point is where the readings are coming from , we all know lower temps are better thats a given but again if your running in the mid 50's no lockup's and no crashes ? I say keep on trucking

Necrosis · Nov 14, 2003, 09:43 PM

Hey Funky,

I will say for your FSB & Voltage plus looking at you cooler your temps are about right. Do you really need to have your CPU at 1.74 to keep it stable. The voltage is really what is making your CPU heat up. Don't forget running that high FSB will also make your northbridge get pretty warm too, and where does that sit?

Mazuko · Nov 20, 2003, 02:14 PM

I'm sitting around 45-46C idle, and 50.4C full load. Frankly prior to my replacing my Heatsinks fan (from a stock AMD 60mm to a vantec tornado 84.1cfm 80mm) my temps were up in the HIGH 60's. I ran that way for several weeks with absolutely no hangups or crashes, or any problems whatsoever.

This is using stock heatsink and only with a different fan. The Room temperature is about 29C (or 84F for those of us in the states).

As mentioned above, keep on trucking

Edit:
Sorry....saw this topic late!

Esaz666 · Dec 17, 2003, 01:07 AM

my p4 is running at around 30c ,its a p4c overclocked from 2.6 to 2.8 with
high temp of around 37c (ive only mesured it with the bios temp test after reboot)

ive got an aluminium case ,its makes a lot of difference what case you have and how much crap youve got in it ( air flow )

my old AMD system used to hit at 50c sometimes. i only noticed that my temps were too high because
of reading other peoples temps earlier on this year on DH.

koffe · Dec 18, 2003, 11:07 AM

My cpu have been up 70C and it lived.... I can make my cpu-fan go 2000-3500 R/min and the temp can go op to 70C when i play games and the fan is on 2000 R/min...
If i have it on 3000 my temp is on 50..

I am going to get a new chassi after the 24th....
Presents..

/Koffe

koffe · Dec 18, 2003, 11:08 AM

Non load temp is 40C!