XP2100+ Tbred-B questions..

tek · Oct 30, 2003, 05:25 PM

This is my second systems setup:
Powtek 550W PSU • Modded Side-Window Case • ASUS A7N8X Deluxe 2.0 1005 UBER BIOS • AMD XP2100+ Tbred-B • Thermalright SLK-800(A) lapped w/ SmartFan II • MSI GeForce4 TI4200 128MB 8XAGP • GEIL 256MB PC3200BH (2.5-6-3-3) • 1x Seagate Barracuda 40GB 7200.7 • Lite-ON 52x/32x/52x • Lite-ON 16X DVD-Rom • Gateway Vivitron 17" • Logitech Pulse 420 Speakers • Windows XP Professional • nVidia nForce2 2.45 WHQL • StarStorm 52.xx VGA Drivers

Right now I'm in the process of overclocking the TI4200 which is no biggie I know all about that, and its simple.

Now I have a couple of questions about the XP2100+ tbred-b, and craig I know you had one of these clocked real high, so you must have some experience with this.

The stock multiplier and fsb is 13x and 133fsb, now my question is would I be better off taking the multiplier down to 11x and working on the FSB, or should I stay at 13x multiplier and see how far I can push this chip. I know that the lower my FSB the tighter I can keep my RAM, but its only a 256MB stick of GEIL CAS2.5 RAM, so I wont be pushing this chip too far, at the most probably 2.2ghz cause I'm getting some amazing temps at stock, 22C idle... I cant believe it, but I will just to make myself feel better

So XP2100, take the multi down to 11x and work on FSB, or keep it at 13x and see if I can take this chip to where I want it ?
And anybody who has had a 2100+ tbred-b, do youse remember your voltages at 2.x ghz? If you overclocked?

Thanks for looking!!!
-tek

~~craig588~~ · Oct 30, 2003, 05:37 PM

whats the specs on the chip? Is it a AUHIB? Is it 1.5v or 1.6v?

Mine would hit ~2650MHz, but my mobo didnt work with the FSB that high.

tek · Oct 30, 2003, 05:48 PM

Oh sorry I didnt list those things, yeah its a 1.6V and as I think when I saw the chip in the tray I saw AIUHB.

~~craig588~~ · Oct 30, 2003, 05:56 PM

I'm sure you'll hit 2200MHz with it.

With the NF7-S rev2 you could do 220MHz/10X easily.

I'll talk to you more in the chat.

EDIT: oops, I thought this was on your NF7-S computer, probably try 200MHz/11X

tek · Oct 30, 2003, 06:10 PM

Thanks Craig! (talking to him in AIM right now, he's a HUGE help)

but anyone who wants to add something feel free to.

Bane the ECF · Oct 30, 2003, 09:21 PM

If your CPU is what you say it is, craig's assessment is correct.

tek · Oct 30, 2003, 09:49 PM

Ahh... this mobo is a piece!

I tried 200x11 no go, tried 166x13... no go.

All at 1.85VCORE (highest), 2.8V VDDR, 1.7 Chipset, timings pretty loose.

Found out its not the chip its the mobo ( but its the 2.0, those are supposed to hit 200fsb with ease

) so tried out 14x multiplier and 140fsb with all those same settings and we've got a boot!!

So I guess I'll work from here at the 14x multiplier, I'll take the fsb as high as I can go... just to see what my limit is.

The TI4200 is at 300/600 (keeping it here for safety reasons, and I dont need any higher on that comp), score a legit score of 11k+ in 3dmark01 (CPU is at 2.1GHz) - so that will increase a bit more.

But Aquamark3 is still giving me around 18k (had 18k with cpu at 1.8GHz too) - so something must be wrong there.

~~craig588~~ · Oct 31, 2003, 10:15 AM

You dont need your ram voltage that high if your not pushing the FSB you could probably keep it at 2.6 and still be able to push 6-2-2-2.

~~DriveEuro~~ · Oct 31, 2003, 04:11 PM

Dude, there is no way you need 1.85v to get a 1.6v 2100B to 2200mhz. I ran my old 2100B at 1.7v at 2200mhz. I just bought one the other day to put in my mom's rig, I'll post about it once I get a mobo to run it.

tek · Oct 31, 2003, 11:08 PM

I know that DriveEuro, the only reason I'm keeping it at at 1.85V is because I wanna see how far I can push this chip with this POS motherboard, and I want to see how tight I can get the timings without errors in memtest3.0

Right now 160x14=2240MHz @ 1.85V, 2.8V DDR, 1.7V chipset fully stable, but I still need to do a lot of work here, I'm not close to done.

~~DriveEuro~~ · Oct 31, 2003, 11:16 PM

You have an ASUS board, but it's the 2.0...... You should be able to do 200 without a vdd mod, but I know the ASUS won't make it far past without the vdd mod.

jaysavesthedayy · Nov 7, 2003, 11:18 PM

hey, i didnt know that the 2100+ thoroughbred B's were given an "L" rating (1.5v) for voltage.

I thought the 1700's and the 1800's T-bredB's were the only ones with the 1.5v option. Guess not...

~~DriveEuro~~ · Nov 8, 2003, 04:12 AM

Craig likes to believe that 2100Bs got the 1.5v rating. But none did. If they did ya woulda heard more about them. ....

~~craig588~~ · Nov 8, 2003, 10:59 AM

I have one of the special ones. 3 other people have them, and Zardon managed to get a 1.5V 2200+. They do exist, they are just extremely rare.

~~DriveEuro~~ · Nov 8, 2003, 11:27 AM

Um, 2200Bs aren't rare. I know a few people at ExtremeOverclocking that have one. And a few at XtremeSytems do as well.

jaysavesthedayy · Nov 9, 2003, 01:37 AM

I did not know that. Im a try to find one of those XP2100+ "DLT3C"s. I still like my good ol' 2100+ Palamino. I think it still kicks ass.

I have an 2400+ lying around, and if i find someone with one, Ill trade that sucker for theirs.