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Jul 10, 2008, 10:49 PM
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hmm, i never have the kind of CPU so i would have to try booting up the system with a few core voltage settings through the BIOS,
can you boot the system and get in to Windows at all with 1.4-1.50V vcore?
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Jul 11, 2008, 12:25 AM
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haven't tried =P
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Jul 11, 2008, 07:45 PM
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Cool PangingJr. - nice stable 3.6! A great overclock!
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Jul 11, 2008, 08:50 PM
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#94 (permalink)
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3.46GHz aren't too far apart in overall CPU and memory performance and it will use less voltages all around.
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Don't worry overly much about whether a specific KB article exists for your version of Windows.
Standard practice is to grab whatever's available and apply the principles.
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Jul 27, 2008, 02:29 PM
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#95 (permalink)
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Don't worry overly much about whether a specific KB article exists for your version of Windows.
Standard practice is to grab whatever's available and apply the principles.
(I grabbed from the web. Written by someone, somewhere on the web)
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Jul 29, 2008, 12:13 AM
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my best Q9300 475x7.5 overclock, so far.
as far as i know, all the voltage values that i use in this overclock are well within limit on all hardwares.
and this may be my final overclock on this CPU.

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Don't worry overly much about whether a specific KB article exists for your version of Windows.
Standard practice is to grab whatever's available and apply the principles.
(I grabbed from the web. Written by someone, somewhere on the web)
Last edited by PangingJr; Jul 29, 2008 at 02:21 AM.
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Jul 30, 2008, 01:24 AM
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just another overclock attempt.
is it possible to Overclock core 2 Quad 9300 using (mostly) only Vcore and Vdimm.?
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Don't worry overly much about whether a specific KB article exists for your version of Windows.
Standard practice is to grab whatever's available and apply the principles.
(I grabbed from the web. Written by someone, somewhere on the web)
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Jul 30, 2008, 01:38 AM
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#98 (permalink)
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Don't worry overly much about whether a specific KB article exists for your version of Windows.
Standard practice is to grab whatever's available and apply the principles.
(I grabbed from the web. Written by someone, somewhere on the web)
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Jul 31, 2008, 02:24 AM
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just another overclock attempt.
will using more Vcore cause system overheating and a crash?
edit the line "4x1GB DDR2 1080 MHz @ 2.1V",
the system memory is actually runing "4x1GB DDR2 1110 MHz @ 2.1V"
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Don't worry overly much about whether a specific KB article exists for your version of Windows.
Standard practice is to grab whatever's available and apply the principles.
(I grabbed from the web. Written by someone, somewhere on the web)
Last edited by PangingJr; Jul 31, 2008 at 02:37 AM.
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Jul 31, 2008, 02:56 AM
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wow this is a hot day today (room's air con is under cleaning).
2hrs...

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Don't worry overly much about whether a specific KB article exists for your version of Windows.
Standard practice is to grab whatever's available and apply the principles.
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Jul 31, 2008, 04:13 AM
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well, the room temp is getting even high and it's like a room with 35C or more right now.
this overclock setting has been testing by myself for sometime now, i can either use a more lower vcore setting with an increase on the other voltage setting, or i can use a high vcore setting like this one.
anyways, let me talk a little about what i think on the CPU's core temp (as i've been seeing some were having some questions about it),
when running a test on your system don't relay on the core temp that are reading by any programs (likes core temp, real temp, speedfan, etc), instead, check and monitor the temp before the TJ Max.
the CPU's core temp reading on the programs is all upto you. if you are using a cool room for your computer system, then you may want to set a lower TJ Max value like 85-90C, or if your computer room is a very warm room, then you might want to set a more higher TJ Max value, likes 95C-105C. so when the system is in idle you may get a more accurate temp reading.
for an example, if i believe this correct, here's the core temp value during the system (with the 462 FSB overclocked setting above) is in idle.
real temp, core temp and everest shows the same CPU's core temps (when the same TJMax value is in use on all 3 programs).

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Don't worry overly much about whether a specific KB article exists for your version of Windows.
Standard practice is to grab whatever's available and apply the principles.
(I grabbed from the web. Written by someone, somewhere on the web)
Last edited by PangingJr; Jul 31, 2008 at 05:43 AM.
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Jul 31, 2008, 09:38 PM
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I think lowering the TJ Max setting might be dangerous in that the program would be badly underreporting temps at load - which is what most folks will think to read if they are not remembering to pay close attention. I don't understand why the program would report idle temps better though either, because the TJ Max setting doesn't actually change the lack of sensor accuracy at low temps. The difference in idle temp figures between cores is because of that lack of accuracy, and calibration is just supposed to equalize the inaccuracy across the differing core sensors at idle, isn't it?
It would take some retraining for most folks, I think, to ignore the temp figures and look instead at the Difference to TJ Max figure.
Do you think this is more accurate than going through the calibration procedure? I did that recently btw...
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Last edited by swimtech; Jul 31, 2008 at 09:48 PM.
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Jul 31, 2008, 10:55 PM
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oh i didn't try to stop people to monitor their core temp reading.
what is your Intel officially TJMax value for your CPU anyway?

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Don't worry overly much about whether a specific KB article exists for your version of Windows.
Standard practice is to grab whatever's available and apply the principles.
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Aug 2, 2008, 09:53 AM
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Oh, of course - I know you're just doing your thing - it's neat to see too.
About the TJMax for the Q6600 - no one knows for sure and Intel hasn't yet published that figure for my processor. I use the TJMax figure that the author of RealTemp suggests because it seems he's done a decent analysis of what it likely is - he's tried very hard to be accurate. I use the 95C figure.
I've gone through the calibration procedure he outlines with a thermometer, and I have the advantage of having a stable room temperature of 23C (give or take just 1C). Note below that applying the calibration factors changes the Distance to TJ Max figures when, by my understanding, it really shouldn't. However, the idle temps shown are now evened out, and stay within one or two degrees of one another when the cores are evenly loaded during stress testing.
And, at all times, I just look to keep the max temp below 71C - even during stress testing - as outlined by Intel. Actually haven't ever exceeded 64C or so at any time so far as reported by RealTemp.
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Aug 2, 2008, 10:26 AM
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after i've already finished all the overclocking i don't really care about the core temp thing since i don't what CPU's core temp value i should be using either.
i think, this particular Q9300 system will be set at 462x7.5 since it doesn't use much voltage or gives much heat to the room at all.
when i actually use the system duing the days it's far more cooler, i never have any problem with system over heating, i'll probably reduce the case fans to a minimum.
here's some of abit more info about the TJMax and DTS...
TSK's Crazy Theory on TJmax and the DTS - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net
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Standard practice is to grab whatever's available and apply the principles.
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