Dom

Whats this controversy we have all been hearing in the news in the past few months about weather kazaa is being montored by any federal or other piracy agencies. Well think again! Yes, that’s right. If you ever have used Kazaa well here is a good news for you that your IP, host name, isp, and anything you ever downloaded was saved on a log and sent to a agency that is montorig your connection, most likely your isp, in this case it was FastTrack. Now how do you believe me if that is really happening? Well we did a little experiment for outselves to check it out. I downloaded a Motion Picture (Name Removed) from Kazaa lite and then a few days later we get a e-mail from the ISP of the person who performed this test for us, saying how we broke the AUP of the ISP and that we should take matters into our hands.

The company supposibly reported it to our ISP was Universal City Studios Productions LLLP. This is a little bit of information on what they had to say to the ISP.

That’s a little part of the e-mail that was sent to the ISP from Univsersal Studio’s. When we were first notified about this we were in a little bit of shock our selves too because, we always heard that Kazaa is safe and this is that.

Here is a little part of the rest of the e-mail containing the part where the person’s information was stored that was sent to the ISP.

Well there you have it. A little bit of information on how the Kazaa story really works. We are still in the process of trying to talk to the ISP. We will let you know if we have any updates.

UPDATE: A lot of people have asked if this applies to Kazaa Lite to and Yes it does because we tested on a regular machine with kazaa and one with kazaa lite!

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Source: TechCritic via konvict

konvict

I hear RIAA will be secretly installing spyware on your computers, along with microphones, video cameras, and other bugs throughout your house in the near future.

The_Neon_Cowboy

I E-mailed kazaa to get thier take on this ... i'll post what i get back from them

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Robert McClelland

lol I'm glad I stay way from Kazaa I never try it lol

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Furious

I'd like to know how they go about monitoring what files people are downloading. Also how do they know the download is actually the copyrighted material because files are often mislabeled.

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sinjin

the more technology we use...the easier it is for agencies to keep track of us.

1984 is now.

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Dawnrazor

Kind of odd considering FastTrack is the network Kazaa connects to if I recall right. So you're saying they rat out their own users?

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BWX

I have Adelphia Powerlink cable. On the 4th they were down all day long. When the service came back up there was one IP address that consistantly gives a HORRIBLE ping an choppy conectivity. Problem is, this is the first server I always hit- everywhere I go online, no matter what. I ping it and here is what I get:

Pinging 10.0.196.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=57ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=53ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=67ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=130ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=90ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=45ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=190ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=44ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=49ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=652ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=38ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=171ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=45ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=524ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=86ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=226ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=112ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=56ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=402ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=228ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=221ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=220ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=419ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=122ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=536ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=87ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=488ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=63ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=258ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=99ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=257ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.196.1: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=255

Ping statistics for 10.0.196.1:
Packets: Sent = 50, Received = 50, Lost = 0 (0% lo
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 10ms, Maximum = 652ms, Average = 129ms

Some of those pings suck!! I did some investigating on that IP address and this is what I find!!!


Target: 10.0.196.1
Date: 6/11/2003 (Wednesday), 12:59:30 am
Nodes: 2


Node Data
Node Net Reg IP Address Location Node Name
2 1 - 10.0.196.1 Unknown



Network Data
Network id#: 1

OrgName: Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
OrgID: IANA
Address: 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330
City: Marina del Rey
StateProv: CA
PostalCode: 90292-6695
Country: US

NetRange: 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255
CIDR: 10.0.0.0/8
NetName: RESERVED-10
NetHandle: NET-10-0-0-0-1
Parent:
NetType: IANA Special Use
NameServer: BLACKHOLE-1.IANA.ORG
NameServer: BLACKHOLE-2.IANA.ORG
Comment: This block is reserved for special purposes.
Comment: Please see RFC 1918 for additional information.
Comment:
RegDate:
Updated: 2002-09-12

OrgTechHandle: IANA-ARIN
OrgTechName: Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Number
OrgTechPhone: +1-310-823-9358
OrgTechEmail: res-ip@iana.org

ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2003-06-07 21:05


Registrant Data


I go on the internet and find all kinds of things about this "IANA-ARIN" being involved in setting off firewalls and trying to access peoples machines. I turn on my firewall and guess what? It is dropping IP's left and right- about one every second, all day long, from My OWN ISP!! So could someone with more knowledge on this subject tell me if this is part of " big brother" snooping on me? I wouldn't doubt it, but I haven't used Kazaa in a while anyway, nothing to hide here- But still, my connection is ruined, I can't even play online games at all- and I ALWAYS had a good ping for 2 years before- I need help getting to the bottom of this- And I think it IS related to the news story!

I am cancelling my subscription to Adelphia and moving accross town in a week anyway, I am buying my own cable modem and setting up a NEW Adelphia account (because they are the only cable internet access in my area)- I can only hope it gets better- but it will probably be the same thing. Hopefully someone reading this will be able to help me investigate this problem with this IP address further.

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BWX

Hey, do you use Adelphia Powerlink??? If so, PM me- I need you to run a test for me- I want to see if everyone is having this same problem. I think they are spying on us.




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"I am the way to the city of woe
I am the way to the forsaken people
I am the way to eternal sorrow
Come...Walk with me"

LOL, hey, Buffalo sucks, but it isn't THAT bad.... j/k- it is- you are right.

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killzone

One of the worst file sharing progs any way as far as Im concerned and one of the most dangerous

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EcPercy

well it would seem that if you used kazaa lite that you are not using the fasttrack system since you have no ads and spyware... its also rather odd that the person that is actually sharing the files is not listed there huh?

Matth

Aren't 10.x.x.x addresses private / off-net?


Back to P2P though - it's certainly been reported that "enforcement agencies" have been searching for SHARED material that is available, I thought is was upload servers they scanned - and then sent nastygrams to their ISP.

Of course, if you are a P2P "good citizen", and share what you download.....

A partial remedy to their probing, is the IP blocklists, but it only takes ONE of their IP's to be unknown, and they're free to surf you share again!


And so the war goes on - just as the virus and antivirus writers are locked in a power struggle.

BWX

What about peer guardian programs, don't they work?

http://www.methlabs.org/pg/index.htm

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The_Neon_Cowboy

to a limited amount

funny you said that the RIAA /music video industy is suspected for the fileshareing viruses found on kazza ...

i ran into 2 of them recently nortan av catches them ... I tell the people hosting the file but nothing is ever done... they know thier shareing virus infected files

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The_Neon_Cowboy

UNIVERSAL IS UP IN ARMS .. THE NEW MOVIE "THE HULK" WAS LEAKED ON KAZAA ... SUPPOSED TO BE RELEASED THE 20TH THIS MOUTH TO THE THEATORS

THEY BE WATCHING ...BE WARE


HEY I HAVE THE SOLUTION TRY A FAKE IP PROGRAM ...!

or try

http://www.anonymizer.com/id_protection/email.shtml


isnt the riaa violating any laws spying on people!!!

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merry

from this page :
The ip you pinged is "internal" to your ISP's network (if I pinged the same ip I would reach a totally different computer, if any).

Some more information in
this document, part of IP Sub-Networking Mini-Howto

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konvict

Can we get this on KaZaa?

BWX

Thanks for the info- I guess I just have a really crappy Server now- whether or not they are spying is harder to say- I don't really care as long as my connection works- Maybe I'll go try to download something from a P2P and see what happens.

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The_Neon_Cowboy

just for the record kazza never responded..... so they must know about it/support it

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