Poor Kinetic

fornicatarachnid · Jan 9, 2003, 08:11 AM

As a result of his quest to build the ultimate PC (and to keep up

with me since I recently overtook him in our little family

competition

) he bought a new super dooper HS/fan to keep

his CPU cool. It was a Volcano 7+. After fitting it to his chip we

fired it up but all we got was a horrible burning smell !!

but

worst of all, no post !

After changing his XP2000 CPU that

he won on DH for his old XP1700 he had before, it would boot up,

but the CPU would only run in safe mode (1.1 Ghz)

If any of you had noticed he hasn't been around here lately it's

because the tears that flowed spilled over onto his

keyboard

and that's fecked as well now.

Serously though, he is really depressed that such a simple thing

like fitting a new HS/fan could cause so much misery so have a bit

of sympathy for him and wish him and his computer a speedy

recovery. It's looking like his motherboard got fried somehow,

but if any of you have any other ideas as to what could have

happened I'm sure Kinetic would be very grateful

***Zardon*** · Jan 9, 2003, 08:36 AM

my question is this ... have you one black eye or 2?

fornicatarachnid · Jan 9, 2003, 08:41 AM

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Originally posted by Zardon
my question is this ... have you one black eye or 2?

I feel really guilty about this, honest, I do !

Mr Kinetic knows I would never deliberately sabotage his PC

shortstuff · Jan 9, 2003, 08:42 AM

I hope kinetic figures out what happened.

~~WyreTheWolf~~ · Jan 9, 2003, 09:07 AM

Poor guy... I have only twice in my life destroyed a processor. Once was by accident... I didnt know that you had to put foam around a peltier to seal it off :O That didn't last long, and the last time was actually on purpose... A customer wanted to know if a serious HSF was really needed on a 1.3GHz Duron... (after all it is ONLY 1.3GHz!) So, I yanked the cooler off while it was running. HEY! It made an impression! But that was on purpose. .... What ever it is that is keeping his sytem down.. I hope he figures it out soon! Good luck!

~~DriveEuro~~ · Jan 9, 2003, 12:06 PM

So the processor that he won from here is feked up?

digitalwanderer · Jan 9, 2003, 12:40 PM

...I'll try putting in a good word with the PC gods on your behalf. Downtime sucks, hang in there and make it better.

kinetic · Jan 9, 2003, 04:39 PM

I'm back! After the worst couple of days in my life (comp wise) I'm finally back to speed. Forni worked tirelessly to feck up my comp but, credit where credits due, he also worked tirelessly to get it running again. Had to fork out for a new mobo http://www.msicomputer.com/product/d...p?model=K7N2-L as my Asus A7V333 gave up the ghost along with the xp2000 I won on DH

In a serious state of depression I also bought an xp2200. Now all I've got to do is get some money together before my visa statement arrives

I wish I could pass on some advice in hindsight but at the moment I'm just glad to be back online. Not sure what went wrong with the Volcano 7+ but I don't want to risk installing it again. Anyone who wants to take it off my hands to try it, if you p.m me with your details I'll send it to ya free of charge.

~~WyreTheWolf~~ · Jan 9, 2003, 05:04 PM

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Originally posted by kinetic
I'm back! After the worst couple of days in my life (comp wise) I'm finally back to speed. Forni worked tirelessly to feck up my comp but, credit where credits due, he also worked tirelessly to get it running again. Had to fork out for a new mobo http://www.msicomputer.com/product/d...p?model=K7N2-L as my Asus A7V333 gave up the ghost along with the xp2000 I won on DH In a serious state of depression I also bought an xp2200. Now all I've got to do is get some money together before my visa statement arrives I wish I could pass on some advice in hindsight but at the moment I'm just glad to be back online. Not sure what went wrong with the Volcano 7+ but I don't want to risk installing it again. Anyone who wants to take it off my hands to try it, if you p.m me with your details I'll send it to ya free of charge.

Glad to have you back online

Sorry to hear about the mobo, and cpu.

~~WyreTheWolf~~ · Jan 21, 2003, 05:20 PM

Kinetic, I recieved the HSF, after looking at it for a couple of minutes... I realized what was wrong.

The clip that holds the HSF to the ZIF socket was reversed.... Facing the wrong way. So the indent that is made in the HSF to clear the ZIF socket cam.... didnt, resulting in a small amount of air space between the core, and the HSF.

Sorry bro, but that is why your 2000+ died. The HSF was not sitting flat on it.

fornicatarachnid · Jan 21, 2003, 05:23 PM

..........runs away and hides under the nearest stone

kinetic · Jan 21, 2003, 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by WyreTheWolf
Kinetic, I recieved the HSF, after looking at it for a couple of minutes... I realized what was wrong.

The clip that holds the HSF to the ZIF socket was reversed.... Facing the wrong way. So the indent that is made in the HSF to clear the ZIF socket cam.... didnt, resulting in a small amount of air space between the core, and the HSF.

Sorry bro, but that is why your 2000+ died. The HSF was not sitting flat on it.

Not exactly what I wanted to hear but 'c'est la vie' I'm not one to bear grudges but just wait 'til I get my f**kin' hands on forni.

Only kidding 'bro

It's water under the bridge now.

tigerarmyAFI · Jan 21, 2003, 05:36 PM

ouch! i killed an XP1800 doing exactly the same thing, putting the clip back on the hs/f backwards...
it wasn't pretty, it took out my psu too

fornicatarachnid · Jan 21, 2003, 05:36 PM

What can I say ?

kinetic · Jan 21, 2003, 05:40 PM

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Originally posted by fornicatarachnid
What can I say ?

How about 'here's £200 towards your new mobo and cpu!

***craig5320*** · Jan 21, 2003, 05:44 PM

Damn that's embarrassing, hehe, I remember when I turned on my Athlon 1.4 without putting the HSF on at all. *poof* Learnt the hardway, but i'll never do it again

fornicatarachnid · Jan 21, 2003, 05:46 PM

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Originally posted by kinetic
How about 'here's £200 towards your new mobo and cpu!

mmmmm, ok i'll take it off your bill for the decorating etc etc etc etc etc etc etc ..........

~~DriveEuro~~ · Jan 21, 2003, 10:30 PM

So the winner of the Athlon 2000 contest has now lost the Mobo AND the CPU......boooo.

shuki · Jan 22, 2003, 03:26 AM

I fried my 1.4 tbird... RIP... also did not have the hsf on just right. Had bought my first bolt on to mobo alpha pal 8045 and did not have it adjusted just right so as one corner of cpu core wasnt touching just right.. *poof* there went mr. 1.4

Replaced with current xp1700.

and those volcano 7 have a rep for being a bear to get off and on. Many a cpu cracked because of their crappy clip!!

was that xp2000 new from retail store?? if so, warranty should warrant a replacement.... though not technically I suppose since it was human error (spider error rather) that killed the chip and not mfgr defect....

digitalwanderer · Jan 22, 2003, 08:48 AM

So I'm not the only one who gets nervous whenever they have to take their HSF off their CPU or put a new one on? It's one of the most nerve-wracking things I do with my 'puters. I always end up fighting the damned clips on with a screwdriver while praying that I don't slip and cut something important on the mobo. (And I have a few good dings on me mobo near me CPU, but no damage. <knock-wood!> )

fornicatarachnid · Jan 22, 2003, 08:53 AM

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Originally posted by digitalwanderer
So I'm not the only one who gets nervous whenever they have to take their HSF off their CPU or put a new one on? It's one of the most nerve-wracking things I do with my 'puters. I always end up fighting the damned clips on with a screwdriver while praying that I don't slip and cut something important on the mobo. (And I have a few good dings on me mobo near me CPU, but no damage. <knock-wood!> )

Have to agree with you there Dig, I'm sure they could come up with a better design than

the present one. Ok, I admit what happened to Kinetic chip was my fault ( the only way

to learn is by making mistakes, right? ) but the whole process of installing the HSF is a bit

like you said, close your eyes and hope for the best

~~DriveEuro~~ · Jan 22, 2003, 10:02 AM

Geez....I have slipped and nailed the mobo a couple times. But when I have my power supply in the computer I have to use a letter opener to put the HSF back on. There is no room for a screw driver cuz of the handle.

digitalwanderer · Jan 22, 2003, 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by DriveEuro
Geez....I have slipped and nailed the mobo a couple times. But when I have my power supply in the computer I have to use a letter opener to put the HSF back on. There is no room for a screw driver cuz of the handle.

Piece of advice: ALWAYS remove your power supply before trying to change/adjust your HSF! It's hard enough to do it when the mobo ain't in your case, trying to do it around a PS is just sheer craziness! (Yeah, I've done it a couple of times that way too...to "save time"

Now me PS is permanently mounted outside me case and it works MUCH better!

)

~~DriveEuro~~ · Jan 22, 2003, 12:25 PM

No, takes too long. When I was unlocking the 2100 last month I was mounting the processor every 10 minutes.

Ryoko · Jan 22, 2003, 05:14 PM

yeah but if y'all overclockers used decent hsf's, you wouldn't have to fight it

mine i could take off and put back on in under 30 secs, ps or no ps

(and mine's a coolermaster, btw)

~~DriveEuro~~ · Jan 22, 2003, 05:23 PM

I can take mine off without a problem and in a flash...it's just I have to use a letter opener. And my HSF is pretty decent. Yeah it isn't all copper...But come on. It's a damn good mediocre HSF.