[BWX]

Just keep double posting very 2 minutes.. That will help.. Oh wait, you already did.

[CDsDontBurn]

Originally Posted by BWX

Just keep double posting very 2 minutes.. That will help.. Oh wait, you already did.

whatcha talkin' about?

[CDsDontBurn]

oh you mean like this???

[CDsDontBurn]

but that was only 30 seconds!!!

[CDsDontBurn]

hehehe.....a triple post

[CDsDontBurn]

and this is my 5th post in a row

[Dark Lord]

oh i am definatly going fuel injection on the rebuild. doing a little reading and searching, and ive found a motor that does EXACTLY what i want.



meet the Ram Jet ZZ502 Crate Engine, straight from chevy.

Specifications

SDPC Part Number: 12499121
Manufacturer: GM Performance Parts
Horsepower : 510 @ 5500 RPM
Torque : 550 @ 4500 RPM
Compression Ratio : 9.6:1
Block : Gen VI Cast Iron, 4.468" Bore
Crankshaft : Forged Steel, 4.000"
Heads, Chamber Size : Aluminum Oval Port, 110cc
Valves (I/E) : 2.250" / 1.880"
Intake Manifold : Ram Jet Port Fuel Injection


i figured id be spending close to 10K to have a motor custom built to put out 500 HP/TQ, but this sucker puts out 510/550 and is under 9K.

going in a standard 15% drive train power loss, this will give me about 433.5 RWHP and 467.5RWTQ

that gives me an estimated times of...
1/8th mile 6.971
1/4 mile 10.978
@ 119.08MPH
0-60MPH in 2.6 seconds.


i know this is going to take a bit more clreance then my current hood allows, so ive already got that planned out too. im going to cut the big bulge out of my hood, add how ever much extra hight i need and reglass the bulge back in. im also going to cut a hole in the middle of the bulge, kinda like the how the current Z06's are for the ramjet. ill see if i can sketch something out with MS paint.

[CDsDontBurn]

Originally Posted by Dark Lord

Heads, Chamber Size : Aluminum Oval Port, 110cc

this is one problem i'm finding w/that particular engine. well, not just that particular engine, but basically any engine that has both steel and aluminium components.

steel and aluminium both have different heat ranges. meaning that they expand and contract at different temperatures. how would that affect the long term affect of the engine?

[Dark Lord]

dont know, but every one ive heard from that has either the ZZ502 or the ramjet absolutly loves them

[CDsDontBurn]

well, i'm not saying that the power isn't great. from what you've posted, it's insanely awesome . but i'm just saying that because the block and the heads are made of different materials, how will that affect the engine's longevity? will the heads/block crack due to the metals expanding and contracting at different times?

[Dark Lord]

like i said, wouldnt worry about it. GM designed and tested this sucker, so im sure they know what there doing.

now, forgive my MS paint bastardised photo, but i think you get some idea of what im going for with the hood. and yes, that will be like a small cowl also.

whenever this thing gets done, it will be cleaned up much more, and angled so it fits the shape and contours of the hood.

[CDsDontBurn]

your MS paint bastardized photo is excused

[pr0digal jenius]

Originally Posted by Dark Lord

oh i am definatly going fuel injection on the rebuild. doing a little reading and searching, and ive found a motor that does EXACTLY what i want.



meet the Ram Jet ZZ502 Crate Engine, straight from chevy.

Specifications

SDPC Part Number: 12499121
Manufacturer: GM Performance Parts
Horsepower : 510 @ 5500 RPM
Torque : 550 @ 4500 RPM
Compression Ratio : 9.6:1
Block : Gen VI Cast Iron, 4.468" Bore
Crankshaft : Forged Steel, 4.000"
Heads, Chamber Size : Aluminum Oval Port, 110cc
Valves (I/E) : 2.250" / 1.880"
Intake Manifold : Ram Jet Port Fuel Injection


i figured id be spending close to 10K to have a motor custom built to put out 500 HP/TQ, but this sucker puts out 510/550 and is under 9K.

going in a standard 15% drive train power loss, this will give me about 433.5 RWHP and 467.5RWTQ

that gives me an estimated times of...
1/8th mile 6.971
1/4 mile 10.978
@ 119.08MPH
0-60MPH in 2.6 seconds.


i know this is going to take a bit more clreance then my current hood allows, so ive already got that planned out too. im going to cut the big bulge out of my hood, add how ever much extra hight i need and reglass the bulge back in. im also going to cut a hole in the middle of the bulge, kinda like the how the current Z06's are for the ramjet. ill see if i can sketch something out with MS paint.

http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/in...S&Category=443

Cha-Ching

You do realize you chose a $13,000 motor, right?

[Dark Lord]

damn, talk about a major mark up

http://www.sdpc2000.com/catalog/3509...e-Assembly.htm

8999.99 + 264.00 shipped to my door.

[pr0digal jenius]

heh, 9 grand for a motor is still a chunk, but yea...guess yer right about the markup

[Dark Lord]

ya it is.

when the time comes, ill have to seriously sit down and consider my options. see if the carbd 502 vs ramjet 502 is worth the price diffrence. see what a built 427 that puts out the same power would cost me from a local builder, so on and so forth. hell, maybe just pick up a crate LS2 and beef it up a bit. my planned budget for the complete rebulid is going to be some where around 40-45K. shell be one hell of a beast when its all done.

[pr0digal jenius]

if you don't require EFI, go with a 454...they're dirt cheap


http://www.high-performance-engines.com/ce13.html

[Dark Lord]

that motor is much cheaper, but it puts my RWHP below my target goal of 400RWHP minimum.

[pr0digal jenius]

nothing some forced induction wouldn't fix


you knwo you want a supercharged 454


or sell your house for a jetted 454 throwing down 510HP

http://www.high-performance-engines.com/ce20.html

[Dark Lord]

heh, i can do better.

http://www.sdpc2000.com/catalog/3449...ate-Engine.htm

ZZ572 @ 620HP/TQ

now if they just came out with a ramjet 572...

[BWX]

Seems like you should put that money into the rest of the car first.. that thing needs a lot of work doesn't it?

[Dark Lord]

it most certainly does.

its all just future planning for the day it eventually happens. im going with a brand new frame, all high end suspension, tranny, motor, etc. when im done, its basicly going to be a 69 vette body sitting on an almost exotic car.

[CDsDontBurn]

so, how do you plan on paying for all that though?

[Dark Lord]

im actually starting to look for real work. ive been saveing cash from my part time for the last several years now. what ive got saved up is a start, but no where near enough to even think about starting a frame off.