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Oct 3, 2004, 03:56 PM
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Intelligence?
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What in the world?
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Oct 3, 2004, 05:23 PM
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Everyones life has worth
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Someone mind explaining how it got there in the first place? lol
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Oct 3, 2004, 05:27 PM
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Intelligence?
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"a 7,600-pound nuclear device dumped by a damaged B-47 bomber in February 1958."
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Oct 3, 2004, 05:28 PM
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Everyones life has worth
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So if you drop it in water it doesn't explode? Because it says the plane was damaged, not the bomb lol
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Oct 3, 2004, 05:29 PM
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Intelligence?
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ya got me....lol
edit: well, nukes arent armed, just in case something like this happened, especially when they are just transporting them from one base to another. They are when on a mission though.....
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Oct 3, 2004, 05:33 PM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
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heard about this awhile ago.
forgot exactly how it happend, but back in the 40s/50s they trained pilots with real missles, just minus a detonator. this included nukes. ya.... i know.... they let them train to fly with nukes. not exactly the smartest of ideas.
anyways. something happend, dont exactly remember what, but for some reason the pilot ran into problems and needed to drop the training nuke he was carrying. taht nuke ended up going in the ocean, the navy looked for it for some 13 weeks but could never find it so they called the search off. 50 years later, BAM. turns up again.
after that little incident, the airforce realised that training with real, but disabled missles was a bad idea.
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Oct 3, 2004, 05:40 PM
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Intelligence?
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hah, only 13 weeks for a searching for a nuke....pretty sad.
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Oct 3, 2004, 05:53 PM
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Everyones life has worth
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Originally Posted by TexasNemesis
hah, only 13 weeks for a searching for a nuke....pretty sad.
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Well look at the weight of that thing. It really isn't going to go very far lol |
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Oct 3, 2004, 06:15 PM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
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I heard about this several years ago. (History Channel)
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Oct 3, 2004, 06:34 PM
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I = Greatest Dood
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heard of it b4... pretty neat story
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Oct 3, 2004, 09:08 PM
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ein Krieger
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Originally Posted by another-user
heard about this awhile ago.
forgot exactly how it happend, but back in the 40s/50s they trained pilots with real missles, just minus a detonator. this included nukes. ya.... i know.... they let them train to fly with nukes. not exactly the smartest of ideas.
anyways. something happend, dont exactly remember what, but for some reason the pilot ran into problems and needed to drop the training nuke he was carrying. taht nuke ended up going in the ocean, the navy looked for it for some 13 weeks but could never find it so they called the search off. 50 years later, BAM. turns up again.
after that little incident, the airforce realised that training with real, but disabled missles was a bad idea.
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i dont think it's a bad idea. it adds a sense of respect to training and makes people take it more seriously and such. its just like how the military does CQ combat training with live ammunition...somebody could get seriously messed up in that... |
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Oct 3, 2004, 09:16 PM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
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i can agree with you on that part, but giveing a damn nuke to them on a training flight? i find that to be the worst possible idea ever. o ya sure, its disabled, but its still full of nuklear uranium. it can still be accidently droped and cracked upon impact creating one hell of a problem.
in all honesty, i dont have a problem with this useing duds for training purposes, except when there handleing things such as this.
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Oct 3, 2004, 09:50 PM
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Elite Motherf#$%er
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Sounds like bullshazbot... But I guess not?
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Oct 3, 2004, 10:22 PM
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ein Krieger
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no, it's not like it gives off radiation all over the place...(at least to what i think i understand about nuclear devices used as weapons)...they dont give off radiation because the reaction hasnt been started....so they're effectively paperweights (plus whatever other explosives are in it)
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Oct 4, 2004, 01:44 AM
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formally Elclair
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Thats sad. Test flying around with real bombs with no detinator. I mean why not just put 7 tons of lead in the plane geeze. You'd think better of who was running the army at the time. O.o
Who was running the army???
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Oct 4, 2004, 01:48 AM
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DH's Latest Mac Convert
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Nacht - they do give off radiation, the same amount as if the bomb did go off… the elements themselves are radioactive no matter what - its just that when the radioisotope is compressed extremely (by conventional explosives) then a huge physical reaction occurs releasing alot of energy
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Oct 4, 2004, 02:05 AM
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DH's oldest Geek?
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There are a number of things that you need to take into the context of the times. That was in the cold war and before ICBMs. The B-47 and the 'new' B-52's were our major nuculear delivery system to deter the Soviets. That bomb did have a 'detonatoer'. That's what the 400 lbs. of conventional explosives are.
For a fairly complete list of Nuke accidents, you might want to browse this web page: http://www.cdi.org/Issues/NukeAccidents/accidents.htm
On a personal note, I remember going with my dad to the crash scene of the B-50 in Lebanon, OH in 1950. I was 5 years old at the time, and I can still remember seeing that hole, and also at least 2 crew members with their parachutes opened and hanging in trees. That plane crashed in the middle of a cornfield that had woods along one side of it. That plane flew directly over our farm at very low level, and crashed not more that 2 miles from us.
Last edited by OldBuzzard; Oct 4, 2004 at 02:12 AM.
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